taking this country backwards.
Back from the brink?
Bush & the Republicans took us to the bring. Obama brought us back. Trump is taking us back down.
As bad as Trump is, he hasn’t done the damage that Bush did
So I have to ask....
I believe Bush did in fact do some damage. But I wager that the things I see as damaging, are not the things you see as damage.
So out of curiosity, what damage did Bush do, according to you?
I think Bush was a nice guy but a horrible President
Specifically
Allowed 9-11
Started two unnecessary wars
Authorized torture
Presided over the worst recession in 75 years
First, I can't blame Bush for something he had little to do with. The sub-prime housing bubble was started in 1997, due to bad government policy. This is a fact, and I can walk you through all the documented evidence for this, if you wish.
So lets talk about the two unnecessary wars, and allowed 9/11.
Do you not see the contradiction in your position?
The evidence that terrorist supplied by the middle east, were going fly a planes into buildings, was extremely small relative to the evidence we had that Saddam was working on WMDs, and trying to have working connections with terrorist groups.
Again, this isn't my conclusion, or the conclusion of some right-wing pundit. This is the conclusion by the Rockefeller congressional investigation into the statements made justifying war, compared to the intelligence information we had at that time.
What they found was, all the statements made justifying military action, were all...... *ALL* supported by the intelligence information we had at that time.
So here is my problem with your position.... on the one hand you are complaining that Bush did not take pre-emptive action in regards to extremely scant evidence on an impending terrorist attack. Yet you are also complaining that Bush did take pre-emptive action on a vast amount of intelligence information for the middle east.
This is ridiculous, is it not? How can you complain they did not search the entire apartment complex over a single bread crumb, and then at the same time, complain they did search the entire apartment complex, when they saw an empty pizza box, a trail of tomato sauce, and a flier for a local pizzeria?
As for enhanced interrogation.....
I'm still up in the air on this. To me there is a massive difference between interrogation, and torture.
Torture is subjective. People have claimed that prisons that serve only bread and water is torture. By that logic, the only way to not torture anyone, is to simply not have prisons, or investigators. Just let people go and have them murder again, because anything you do could be "torture".
Real torture, is the causing of pain and suffering just to cause pain and suffering.
Khashoggi was tortured. They were not trying to get information from him. They simply wanted to cause him to suffer horrendously until he died.
Interrogation, is just that. You are trying to coerce someone into telling you information that will save lives. And this is exactly what happened. We knew that those people did in fact have useful information about impending terrorist attempts, and we wanted to stop those attacks. They gave us valuable information, that did in fact lead to the thwarting of terrorist attacks. We were not trying to harm people, and all those that cooperated, were not subjected to any water boarding or anything.
So.... I don't know. I can see the case against enhanced interrogation. But I can also see the case for it.