Why Do So Few Admit To Being Liberals?

[Sallow]

Actually, the term 'fascist' comes from labor movements, and, historically, includes nazis, communists,and progressives, i.e. all of the totalist philosophies.

And, I learn history from a study of history. You'd do well to try same.

This is an oxymoronic diatribe. And completely wrong.

No, it isn't. If it's wrong, prove it wrong.

You can't. We've been down this road oh, about a thousand times before on this board.

Feel free to list all Nazi labor unions. Or Facist ones. Or for that matter..Communist ones.

None of those governments are very friendly to labor once it's implemented.

 

[AllieBaba]

Labor unions ARE fascist, dumbass. And apparently you don't know what communism is. It's one huge labor union. "Workers, unite".

Idiot.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What PC doesn't tell you about her last post in this thread is that she's quoting from Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism". Obviously, PC has no original thought of her own, having to rely on the so called thinking of hackneyed writers.

If I were seeking " hackneyed writers," you'd be the first one I'd think of, bumper-sticker-boy.

 

[AllieBaba]

Moron:

"The Nationalsozialistische Betriebszellenorganisation (National Socialist Factory Cell Organization) was a workers organization in Nazi Germany.

In 1927, some NSDAP workers in large factories, located mostly in the Berlin area, joined together as an alternative to democratic and Christian labor unions. The NSBO was established in 1928 by these groups.[1]"

National Socialist Factory Cell Organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AllieBaba]

The standard of the Nazi worker's union:

Sallow, you are officially considered a complete dumbass from now on, and will have to work very, very hard to ever be taken seriously. I suggest you read up before your next huge boner. It's pretty sad when a person can use wiki effectively to discredit someone else.

 

[Modbert]

If I were seeking " hackneyed writers," you'd be the first one I'd think of, bumper-sticker-boy.

Your grip on reality is loose on your best days. Are you going to start ranting again that my quote from a movie is obvious evidence of my racism against white people? (y'know, especially with my being a whiter shade of pale.)

P.S: Before you freak out, yes, "whiter shade of pale" is a reference to a song.

 

[AllieBaba]

Well crud, now I can't post any pics at all.

Anyway, the emblem for the NAZI worker's union is...surprise surprise, a swastika.

 

[JBeukema]

As soon as I read 'liberal' and then 'progressive' and you thought they were the same, I knew you didn't have a clue what you're babbling about.

Is it history that is a problem for you, or reading, in general?

Clearly, you fail to understand that Wilson and the Progressives were so reviled by the American public, that John Dewey changed the name to 'liberal' to wrap the ugly political concept is the cloak of what he wished to be understood as: classical liberalism.

If Dante wants to be a woman and starts using the word 'woman' to refer to a queer, does that change what makes a male a male and a woman a woman?

Words have meanings. Liberalism and Progressivism are two different things. Or maybe you want to be like Allie: everything means 'NAZI' except when you're talking about yourself.

Classical liberals were more like what we call Conservatives.

'Conservatives'? You mean like the Tories, the anti-abolitionists, and people like you who scream that the coloureds and non-Protestants are the devil's hordes taking over America?

You would happen to be a member of the JBS, would you?

Liberalism =/= Social Liberalism =/= Social Democracy =/= 'conservatism' =/= Nazism =/= Progressivism

 

[AllieBaba]

You Nazi.

 

[JBeukema]

’ The Italian word ‘fascio’ means bundle, but was commonly used as a synonym for unions.

Fascism comes from Fasces

Mussolini glorified the Roman empire and promised to rebuild it.

a. The intention was for big business to get bigger, and the little guy to be squeezed out:

Just like the Republicans like it.

This in the name of ‘efficiency’ and ‘progress.’

Listen to Republican economic rhetoric sometime.

 

[JBeukema]

What PC doesn't tell you about her last post in this thread is that she's quoting from Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism". Obviously, PC has no original thought of her own, having to rely on the so called thinking of hackneyed writers.

All she's ever done is post quotes.

And often only half of them. She's still hiding form the thread where I told her to finish the quote. I preovided the rest of the quote and she went into 6 months of hiding.

 

[AllieBaba]

You guys, whether I agree with PC or not, it always cracks me up when I see people who think personal opinion carries more weight than sourced material. What lightweights you are.

 

[Modbert]

All she's ever done is post quotes.

And often only half of them. She's still hiding form the thread where I told her to finish the quote. I preovided the rest of the quote and she went into 6 months of hiding.

Pretty much.

 

[Modbert]

You guys, whether I agree with PC or not, it always cracks me up when I see people who think personal opinion carries more weight than sourced material. What lightweights you are.

Sourced material is such a vague and moronic phrase to use but no surprise considering who said it.

Example: Someone is quoting Mein Kampf as their "sourced material" to talk about how evil Jews are while I'm using my personal opinion. Now, according to you, Mein Kampf holds more weight.

The only intellectual lightweight here Allie is PC and yourself.

 

[JBeukema]

You guys, whether I agree with PC or not, it always cracks me up when I see people who think personal opinion carries more weight than sourced material. What lightweights you are.

Like your opinion that the direct quotes of Hitler are 'juvenile tripe' except when you do it?

I linked to the words of the very people who developed the ideologies and whose names are ubiquitous with what the schools of though surrounding them came to believe.

 

[Sallow]

The standard of the Nazi worker's union:

Sallow, you are officially considered a complete dumbass from now on, and will have to work very, very hard to ever be taken seriously. I suggest you read up before your next huge boner. It's pretty sad when a person can use wiki effectively to discredit someone else.

Do you guys ever read what you post?

In 1927, some NSDAP workers in large factories, located mostly in the Berlin area, joined together as an alternative to democratic and Christian labor unions. The NSBO was established in 1928 by these groups.[1]

On January 15, 1931 the NSBO was declared a "Reichsbetriebszellenabteilung" (German Reich Factory Cell Organization) of the Nazi Party. It began to increase its membership by means of aggressive campaigns, which included both propaganda and violence, under the war-cry: "Hinein in die Betriebe!" (Into the Factories!), which was shortened to "Hib".[2]

The NSBO had overall little success among German organized workers, except in certain regions where they supported strikes, such as the transport strike in Berlin. As a result of the "Hib" campaign, the NSBO increased its membership to only about 300.000 by the end of 1931, while the Democratic and Christian labor unions had still well over 5 million members.[3]

Some sections of the NSBO had an ideology similar to National Bolshevism. They believed that after the "national revolution" occurred, a "social revolution" had to follow, to do away with the existing elites.[4] This attitude earned them sympathies in some places, like in Nordhorn, a textile industrial city in the county of Bentheim, where the NSBO defeated the formerly strong Communist labor unions in the industrial worker council elections in 1933.[5] The NSBO's methods then included using armed violence in order to offset a salary reduction in a particular factory.[6]

After all non-Nazi trade unions were oulawed by decree on the May 2, 1933, the NSBO became the only official workers organization in Germany. This moment of glory, however, was short, for the German Labour Front (DAF) was established a few days later. More organized and better represented at national level, the DAF ended up absorbing the NSBO in 1935.[7]

This wasn't a labor union, per se, but an arm of the Nazis.

 

[Sallow]

Labor unions ARE fascist, dumbass. And apparently you don't know what communism is. It's one huge labor union. "Workers, unite".

Idiot.

I think the challenge was pretty clear..to post the labor Unions after each of these forms of governments were implemented.

Many of them started out as populist movements..no doubt. But once in power, most facist/communist governments get rid of labor unions. Post haste.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What PC doesn't tell you about her last post in this thread is that she's quoting from Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism". Obviously, PC has no original thought of her own, having to rely on the so called thinking of hackneyed writers.

All she's ever done is post quotes.

And often only half of them. She's still hiding form the thread where I told her to finish the quote. I preovided the rest of the quote and she went into 6 months of hiding.

This is, as I have shown, a total fabrication....

I challenge you to quote both halves of the quote to which you refer.

Both halves mean the same thing.

 

[JBeukema]

Labor unions ARE fascist, dumbass.

Yes, the labour unions are totally on the side of big business and one 'one dollar, one vote'

 

[Sallow]

What PC doesn't tell you about her last post in this thread is that she's quoting from Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism". Obviously, PC has no original thought of her own, having to rely on the so called thinking of hackneyed writers.

All she's ever done is post quotes.

And often only half of them. She's still hiding form the thread where I told her to finish the quote. I preovided the rest of the quote and she went into 6 months of hiding.

This is, as I have shown, a total fabrication....

I challenge you to quote both halves of the quote to which you refer.

Both halves mean the same thing.

Bwuh?