Why Do So Few Admit To Being Liberals?

[JakeStarkey]

...there is not currently a conservative party.

What a cowardly and pathetic statement. You are simply mad that conservatives can't control the GOP the way they want to. There are other alternatives.

You are pathetic coward, PC.

 

[Intense]

I think he was questioning the idea that is was a Significant Majority.

If that is so why did they have to Bribe a couple republicans with MILLIONS in ear marks just to pass it.

It is a sickness, that the Republic has no defense against, regarding Power, in either Party.

What is a sickness? Pointing out that calling it a significant Majority is stretching the truth?

It is sickness to use the power of the trust to subjugate rather than protect Liberty, and apply Justice. The mechanism of government has long ago abandoned it's primary reason for being for the goal of enriching itself, at the expense of the rest of us. The concerns of the State as a whole are secondary at best to the quest for total power and control over every aspect of our lives. At worst, the birth and development of Global One World Tyranny. Either way, there is more than one wrong turn, in our wake.

 

[Intense]

...there is not currently a conservative party.

What a cowardly and pathetic statement. You are simply mad that conservatives can't control the GOP they they want to. There are other alternatives.

You are pathetic coward, PC.

Jake, You are a defender of the status quo probably for no more reason than the life time you have invested in it. Get it? Good.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nah, Intense, not at all. I despise the far left collectivism, facist corporatism, and the far right libertarianism that threatens the American middle clas.

 

[Sallow]

Of course, the glaring error in your post is that, while there is a liberal party, Democrat...there is not currently a conservative party.

Conservative Party USA

 

[Sallow]

Really, this should be good. Explain:

His redistribution of wealth from the people to the pharmaceutical companies is one example. His tearing down the wall between secular government and religion, with his faith based initiative is another. His class warfare against the middle and lower class by financing his huge tax cut to the wealthy, on the debt we collectively hold is a very conservative position.

That..and the old conservative chestnut..the war/oil economy.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one has done more for pharmaceutical companies, or health insurance industries than your boy Obama and his hoodlums. In fact, they are so afraid during this election, they have already tabled the decision on the Bush tax cuts which many Democrats are saying should be maintained.

Are ewe following knuckleheads?

Really? Let's hear you explain how Obama has done more for the pharmaceutical companies than Bush and the Republicans did when they passed the UNFUNDED Medicare prescription drug bill.

And be specific. Give us some facts and figures.

 

[Intense]

Nah, Intense, not at all. I despise the far left collectivism, facist corporatism, and the far right libertarianism that threatens the American middle clas.

I despise all that which is incapable of fair play. Establishing truth and justice is not as much about choosing sides as doing the right thing in the right time, for it's own sake. The choices are multiple, not limited to what the puppet masters try to limit us to. Don't confuse Liberty with Anarchy. There is both the power of regulation born of the consent of the governed and the power to regulate born on pure imagination. We, as a society, have lost the ability to discern between the two long ago.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The very fact that people think that the words conservative or liberal mean something specific indicates the level of density that exists in American politics.

Neither party stands for anything much, folks.

that why when push comes to shove their responses to events is so very similar.

Would a real free marketeer conservative initiate TARP?

Of course not.

Bush II did.

Would a real liberal continue to piss away money in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Of course not.

But Obama's policies in those nation is simply the continuation of the policies that were in place when Bush II was in office.

You partisans are idiots.

Tools of people whose contempt for you is well founded based on how easily you are manipulated by them.

Of course, the glaring error in your post is that, while there is a liberal party, Democrat...there is not currently a conservative party.

You mean a nationally competitive conservative party that fits your definition of conservatism. There isn't, because that brand of conservatism isn't nationally competitive. That's because the country is not, contrary to the myth, a center/right country.

Why isn't the Republican Party considered a conservative party by you? and by those who are likeminded? Because your brand of conservatism is simply a faction that represents a fraction of the the right of center half of the political spectrum in the US.

The Republican Party is the right of center party in this country. It's just not the right of right of center party in this country...

...that's why the far right is consistently unhappy with the GOP. The far right thinks there is some magic out there that can move the entire GOP to the far right and then, poof!

magically win national elections.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The Republican Party is the right of center party in this country. It's just not the right of right of center party in this country...

WTF?

 

[Sallow]

No one has done more for pharmaceutical companies, or health insurance industries than your boy Obama and his hoodlums. In fact, they are so afraid during this election, they have already tabled the decision on the Bush tax cuts which many Democrats are saying should be maintained.

Are ewe following knuckleheads?

Really? Let's hear you explain how Obama has done more for the pharmaceutical companies than Bush and the Republicans did when they passed the UNFUNDED Medicare prescription drug bill.

And be specific. Give us some facts and figures.

I'd like to hear how Obama "grew" government in general. Federal taxes have been going down..and the numbers of federal employees have shrunk down some 350K since he took office.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one has done more for pharmaceutical companies, or health insurance industries than your boy Obama and his hoodlums. In fact, they are so afraid during this election, they have already tabled the decision on the Bush tax cuts which many Democrats are saying should be maintained.

Are ewe following knuckleheads?

Really? Let's hear you explain how Obama has done more for the pharmaceutical companies than Bush and the Republicans did when they passed the UNFUNDED Medicare prescription drug bill.

And be specific. Give us some facts and figures.

I'd like to hear how Obama "grew" government in general. Federal taxes have been going down..and the numbers of federal employees have shrunk down some 350K since he took office.

When you factor out lost revenue from the recession, the ongoing lost revenue from the Bush tax cuts, the ongoing costs of the wars, the ongoing cost of Bush's prescription drug plan,

Obama's contribution to the deficit is about 10% of the total.

Unfortunately, got to give the right credit, their propaganda machine has completely buried that fact.

 

[peach174]

No one has done more for pharmaceutical companies, or health insurance industries than your boy Obama and his hoodlums. In fact, they are so afraid during this election, they have already tabled the decision on the Bush tax cuts which many Democrats are saying should be maintained.

Are ewe following knuckleheads?

Really? Let's hear you explain how Obama has done more for the pharmaceutical companies than Bush and the Republicans did when they passed the UNFUNDED Medicare prescription drug bill.

And be specific. Give us some facts and figures.

I'd like to hear how Obama "grew" government in general. Federal taxes have been going down..and the numbers of federal employees have shrunk down some 350K since he took office.

Really? Here is a graph for you
http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends/Federal-Government-Jobs.html

and here is another one
http://biggovernment.com/vderugy/2010/02/23/more-on-my-public-sector-fat-cat-obsession/

 

[JBeukema]

The very fact that people think that the words conservative or liberal mean something specific indicates the level of density that exists in American politics.

Neither party stands for anything much, folks.

The fact that you think 'conservative' and 'liberal' refers, in the US to two particular political parties- reveals your own density.

And Liberal does have a meaning.

 

[JBeukema]

The very fact that people think that the words conservative or liberal mean something specific indicates the level of density that exists in American politics.

Neither party stands for anything much, folks.

that why when push comes to shove their responses to events is so very similar.

Would a real free marketeer conservative initiate TARP?

Of course not.

Bush II did.

Would a real liberal continue to piss away money in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Of course not.

But Obama's policies in those nation is simply the continuation of the policies that were in place when Bush II was in office.

You partisans are idiots.

Tools of people whose contempt for you is well founded based on how easily you are manipulated by them.

Of course, the glaring error in your post is that, while there is a liberal party, Democrat...there is not currently a conservative party.

Of course, the glaring error in your post is that there is no national Liberal Party in the US. But don't let facts bother you you never have before.

 

[JBeukema]

I wonder when we ever had a so called "conservative" in politics.

Rand Paul is pro-segregation.

 

[JBeukema]

Of course, the glaring error in your post is that, while there is a liberal party, Democrat...there is not currently a conservative party.

Conservative Party USA

They're not real conservatives!!

The American Conservative Party

 

[JBeukema]

The Republican Party is the right of center party in this country. It's just not the right of right of center party in this country...

WTF?

I think that was a convoluted way of saying 'they're not extremist enough for you'

 

[JBeukema]

No one has done more for pharmaceutical companies, or health insurance industries than your boy Obama and his hoodlums. In fact, they are so afraid during this election, they have already tabled the decision on the Bush tax cuts which many Democrats are saying should be maintained.

Are ewe following knuckleheads?

Really? Let's hear you explain how Obama has done more for the pharmaceutical companies than Bush and the Republicans did when they passed the UNFUNDED Medicare prescription drug bill.

And be specific. Give us some facts and figures.

I'd like to hear how Obama "grew" government in general. Federal taxes have been going down..and the numbers of federal employees have shrunk down some 350K since he took office.

Do we measure government by its employees or its role in our lives? Surely, he's expanded the role of government in the American medical industry, and he's been promising to distance the regulators from the businesses when it comes to offshore drilling, bringing regulation to an effectively unregulated industry.

 

[JBeukema]

Really? Let's hear you explain how Obama has done more for the pharmaceutical companies than Bush and the Republicans did when they passed the UNFUNDED Medicare prescription drug bill.

And be specific. Give us some facts and figures.

I'd like to hear how Obama "grew" government in general. Federal taxes have been going down..and the numbers of federal employees have shrunk down some 350K since he took office.

Really? Here is a graph for you
Federal Government Jobs Job Trends | Indeed.com

and here is another one
More On My Public Sector Fat Cat Obsession - Big Government

Those graphs look very different. And the second shows exactly what Sallow said.

The first shows a small increase from Jan, '09 to Jan '10 while the second shows a decrease.