Why do Republicans bash socialism - when it's all around them?

Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

Sounds horrible, huh?

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.


MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.


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The real question is, "Why are leftists so fucking stupid they think all government is 'socialism'?"

Or, alternatively, there's the question of, "Why do leftists insist on demanding answers to questions based on accepting their ignorance as fact?"
 
Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

Sounds horrible, huh?

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.


MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.


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Wrong...socialism is the government controlling the means of production.

Duh, that's one form of socialism. Thanks for playing...

National socialism and communism are very, very different from Democratic Socialism here in America.


Democratic "Socialism" is simply the first step toward real socialism....the socialism that leads to mass graves.....cause democratic socialism runs out of money, destroys the fabric of a country, and then the reals socialists take over....
 
At least that's the beginning of an honest discussion.

I say we need more. Not as much maybe as Sweden but enough to mitigate the harm that capitalism can cause

Sweden isn't socialist, it's a Welfare State. They regulate their industries far less than we do, they just tax the everloving daylights out of them, and the people.

The highest rate between both of them is 10%... Look what they get in return...
Free College
Free Healthcare
13 month Paternity Leave
Low crime rate with no cops shooting them
... List is endless compare to US...

Huge value for money

Where do you get 10%?

Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia

10% is nowhere to be found for sweden.

Top rate is 10% higher than US...

I
No here is the myth...
On a $100k gross
In US
Take home in US is $71,000 (give or take on the state)

See What a $100K Salary Looks Like After Taxes in Your State

In Germany
In Germany it is $65,870

That is just $5000 of a difference but better infrastructure, free College, free Healthcare, proper social safety net, subsidised public transport, state pension, police force that shot only 102 bullets in a whole year, ......

Seriously how much does that cost...Question should be how are you getting screwed...
Let me tell Trump doesn't have the answer
 
Curious, why do you bash capitalism when it's all around you?

Dare I name some examples?

Your clothes? You paid for them using the capitalist method.
The PC or Laptop you post your garbage on? You paid for it via the capitalist method.
Your car? You more than likely paid for it via the capitalist method.
The food you eat? Paid for by the capitalist method.

You buy, the government taxes, and the seller profits.

Note that all of the examples in your OP are things instituted by government, not the free market. The free market prefers capitalism, for a reason.

Who's bashing capitalism? I engage in it everyday - just like I do socialism. America is a blend of capitalism and socialism - democratic socialism.
stop throwing democratic in front of socialism in an attempt to make it sound more appealing
socialism is socialism no matter what word you throw in front of it
it's like putting democratic in front of communism to make communism acceptable and appealing
The primary defining characteristic is workers self management.
If workers are managing themselves, this like has to be done democratically.

Freedom. Are workers managing themselves have more freedom?
fig2-1.png

Is this freedom?
So?
Redistribution is for fucking pussies
that is All, tax cut economics is.
Na,
The poor do not deserve what the wealthy has, Everyone is at the station in life economically they deserve. Fact
 
Sweden isn't socialist, it's a Welfare State. They regulate their industries far less than we do, they just tax the everloving daylights out of them, and the people.

The highest rate between both of them is 10%... Look what they get in return...
Free College
Free Healthcare
13 month Paternity Leave
Low crime rate with no cops shooting them
... List is endless compare to US...

Huge value for money

Where do you get 10%?

Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia

10% is nowhere to be found for sweden.
Top rate is 10% higher than US...

I
No here is the myth...
On a $100k gross
In US
Take home in US is $71,000 (give or take on the state)

See What a $100K Salary Looks Like After Taxes in Your State

In Germany
In Germany it is $65,870

That is just $5000 of a difference but better infrastructure, free College, free Healthcare, proper social safety net, subsidised public transport, state pension, police force that shot only 102 bullets in a whole year, ......

Seriously how much does that cost...Question should be how are you getting screwed...
Let me tell Trump doesn't have the answer
Lol
You do realize this is a bigger country has than Germany? In both area and population or did you miss that in school?
 
You see, we are still a capitalist nation.

Nope. We're a Keynesian nation.

The article's author over there clearly lacks a grasp of economic theory and monetary policy both.

Bullshit, Keynesian nation would pay down the debts in good economic times.

Keynes has consistently called for long term solvency.
Lol
Only Fucking spineless pieces of shit believe Keynesian economics, So shut the fuck up you fucking moron
 
Sweden isn't socialist, it's a Welfare State. They regulate their industries far less than we do, they just tax the everloving daylights out of them, and the people.

The highest rate between both of them is 10%... Look what they get in return...
Free College
Free Healthcare
13 month Paternity Leave
Low crime rate with no cops shooting them
... List is endless compare to US...

Huge value for money

Where do you get 10%?

Taxation in Sweden - Wikipedia
List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia

10% is nowhere to be found for sweden.
Top rate is 10% higher than US...

I
No here is the myth...
On a $100k gross
In US
Take home in US is $71,000 (give or take on the state)

See What a $100K Salary Looks Like After Taxes in Your State

In Germany
In Germany it is $65,870

That is just $5000 of a difference but better infrastructure, free College, free Healthcare, proper social safety net, subsidised public transport, state pension, police force that shot only 102 bullets in a whole year, ......

Seriously how much does that cost...Question should be how are you getting screwed...
Let me tell Trump doesn't have the answer

Why are you using Germany as a reference when we are talking about Sweden?
 
If government finances it by involuntary taking money from me OF COURSE it is an example of socialist arrangement.
Government finances nothing. Taxpayers do.

No I don't, not in any meaningful way. I have a say in what I finance. The descisions here are that of government I have little to no control over as an individual.
We the People are The Government.

:rolleyes: Yea yea, thats what they told each other in USSR too.

Reality is you have just a smidge more say than your average soviet over what government does with the money it confiscates from you.

Don't want to pay for a war? Tough shit.
Don't want to pay for NASA? Tough shit.
Don't want to pay for Social Security? Tough shit.


Not paying for Obama care, thanks to da leader..

You mad bro?

umm dummy, what you are not paying is insurance premiums to a PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANY.

Obamacare pays out subsidies from a general fund (read: your taxes) to those same private insurance companies.
 
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You see, we are still a capitalist nation.

Nope. We're a Keynesian nation.

The article's author over there clearly lacks a grasp of economic theory and monetary policy both.

Bullshit, Keynesian nation would pay down the debts in good economic times.

Keynes has consistently called for long term solvency.
Lol
Only Fucking spineless pieces of shit believe Keynesian economics, So shut the fuck up you fucking moron

haha thanks for your thoughtful contribution. We are all richer for having read it :rolleyes:
 
Since Republicans toss around the term "socialism" like the Democrats toss around the term "racism", there really is no way to take the whole topic seriously.

No one wants Venezuela. Many would like something closer to Canada, Australia or Germany, but the Republicans don't want to deal with this on that level.
Lol
Millions of conservatives want nothing to do with any type of socialism, but that’s the problem... is socialism always has to be mandatory. And that makes it 100% fucked up.
 
You see, we are still a capitalist nation.

Nope. We're a Keynesian nation.

The article's author over there clearly lacks a grasp of economic theory and monetary policy both.

Bullshit, Keynesian nation would pay down the debts in good economic times.

Keynes has consistently called for long term solvency.
Lol
Only Fucking spineless pieces of shit believe Keynesian economics, So shut the fuck up you fucking moron

haha thanks for your thoughtful contribution. We are all richer for having read it :rolleyes:
Lol
Keynesian economics are Proven to be a total failure, Sick motherfuckers That believe in them need to be weeded out...
 
Curious, why do you bash capitalism when it's all around you?

Dare I name some examples?

Your clothes? You paid for them using the capitalist method.
The PC or Laptop you post your garbage on? You paid for it via the capitalist method.
Your car? You more than likely paid for it via the capitalist method.
The food you eat? Paid for by the capitalist method.

You buy, the government taxes, and the seller profits.

Note that all of the examples in your OP are things instituted by government, not the free market. The free market prefers capitalism, for a reason.

Who's bashing capitalism? I engage in it everyday - just like I do socialism. America is a blend of capitalism and socialism - democratic socialism.
stop throwing democratic in front of socialism in an attempt to make it sound more appealing
socialism is socialism no matter what word you throw in front of it
it's like putting democratic in front of communism to make communism acceptable and appealing
The primary defining characteristic is workers self management.
If workers are managing themselves, this like has to be done democratically.

Freedom. Are workers managing themselves have more freedom?
fig2-1.png

Is this freedom?
Another ignorant liberal that thinks wealth is finite that one having more wealth causes another to have less

your ignorance discredits you from having any intelligent conversation on economics
go learn something then you can come back and join the discussion till then you are just embarrassing your self
Labor is finite, with limited supply.
So how can wealth be any different?

When It Comes to Wealth Creation, There Is No Pie

As usual, the problem is that leftists are borderline illiterate and are throwing around words without any idea what they mean.
 
Curious, why do you bash capitalism when it's all around you?

Dare I name some examples?

Your clothes? You paid for them using the capitalist method.
The PC or Laptop you post your garbage on? You paid for it via the capitalist method.
Your car? You more than likely paid for it via the capitalist method.
The food you eat? Paid for by the capitalist method.

You buy, the government taxes, and the seller profits.

Note that all of the examples in your OP are things instituted by government, not the free market. The free market prefers capitalism, for a reason.

Who's bashing capitalism? I engage in it everyday - just like I do socialism. America is a blend of capitalism and socialism - democratic socialism.

No, it isn't. read the democratic socialists agenda, and if you had a quarter of a brain, you would realize how wrong you are.

They sum it up succinctly on the first line of their "About" page:
Despite Lakhota's attempt to define anything and everything government does as socialism, real socialism involves state control of the economy - that's it. That's what socialism is. We can have a little, or a lot, but at the end of the day socialism is government control of society's economic decisions.


No what you're describing is Communism.

That's not the same thing as socialism.

If you were alive from 1945 to 1980 you lived and benefited from democratic socialism.
Is there anything wrong with communism?

Yes.
 
Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.....l.


Your pretense of not knowing what socialism is, is noted and laughed at. You are laughed at.

LaCooter isn't pretending. He/she/it really doesn't know what socialism is. Not the highest brain wattage at work there.
 
If government finances it by involuntary taking money from me OF COURSE it is an example of socialist arrangement.
Government finances nothing. Taxpayers do.

No I don't, not in any meaningful way. I have a say in what I finance. The descisions here are that of government I have little to no control over as an individual.
We the People are The Government. We finance whatever we vote to finance. You need to import more Brown Latino Slaves and maybe then you can get enough votes for a full blown Economy Killing Socialist State.
Latinos fill a labor shortage. Many of those Latinos are fleeing capitalist shitholes like Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Ecuador, Panama, among others.
...more likely, our socialized, War on Drugs.
Build a Wall. The Drugs come through Mexico and our Southern Border.
 
So you think law enforcement is socialism????:cuckoo:

If government finances it by involuntary taking money from me OF COURSE it is an example of socialist arrangement.
Government finances nothing. Taxpayers do.

No I don't, not in any meaningful way. I have a say in what I finance. The descisions here are that of government I have little to no control over as an individual.
We the People are The Government. We finance whatever we vote to finance. You need to import more Brown Latino Slaves and maybe then you can get enough votes for a full blown Economy Killing Socialist State.
Latinos fill a labor shortage. Many of those Latinos are fleeing capitalist shitholes like Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Ecuador, Panama, among others.
There is no labor shortage. Left Tard Employers need to have their Sweat Shops and Slave Plantations shut down if they are using Illegal Aliens. Welfare needs cut down 50% and people need to be made to go to work, or starve.

Get off your lazy couch surfing designer tennis shoe wearing, welfare taking, food stamp eating ass and go to work.
 
Wrong...socialism is the government controlling the means of production.

Duh, that's one form of socialism. Thanks for playing...

I know that this shell game with the definition of socialism is talking point #1 with liberals these days - but it's a scam. The word socialism has a real definition, despite all the equivocation. Look it up. You'll be hard pressed to find a reputable definition that doesn't identify public ownership of capital, or "the means of production", as the core of socialism.

You're not just confused. You're lying. On purpose, to obfuscate what you're trying to accomplish. Piss. Off.
 
Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

Sounds horrible, huh?

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.


MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.


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There is a HUGE difference between 'Social Programs' and 'Social-ISM'...ask Venezuela.
 
Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

Sounds horrible, huh?

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.


MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.


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There is a HUGE difference between 'Social Programs' and 'Social-ISM'...ask Venezuela.
That doesn't matter to a Liberal. They spend their whole lives lying to themselves and others.
The Funniest Lie they tell is that there is no such thing as an XX and XY Chromosomes and that you can pick what sex you want to be and what bathroom you want to use.
 

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