Why do people hate Liberals?

[syrenn]

I suppose I can agree with that considering most will use the word "liberal" to describe a bunch of fascists...

What are you talking about?

It is this kind of cliche-a-go-go posting that drives me nuts!

Is no post complete unless it has the words 'Marxist' 'Leftist' or 'Fascist' in it - and ideally used wrongly?

Have i used any of those words?

Again.... your sweeping generalizations..... just saying.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, Syren, Saigon is not using those words, you are not using those words. But there are some others that are. And how many 'liberals' in this thread have used those words?

 

[zonly1]

Oh my, Nicky baby is foaming at the mouth again.

shut the FUCK UP, moron. Keynesian econ never works and until then it's a fat goose egg idiot.

 

[zonly1]

We see through the hypocrisy and mindcontrolling nanipulative pile of leftist garbage for what it is and the fact of the architects being the only beneficiary of such socialist politics.

Who is talking about socialism?

This thread is about liberals.

IT's the same equation idiot.

 

[Saigon]

One thing that I have noticed is that I think we have quite a large number of posters here who genuinely think:

a) There are only two political schools of thought - conservative and liberal

b) Liberalism = socialism = marxism = The Greens = leftism = communism = Democrats

(but not necessarily fascism = rightism = conservatism = nationalism = Tea Party = NeoCons, oddly enough)

No one who falls into either of these categories can ever understand politics, and can never play much of a role on a forum except to spew cliches.

 

[Mr.Nick]

I suppose I can agree with that considering most will use the word "liberal" to describe a bunch of fascists...

What are you talking about?

It is this kind of cliche-a-go-go posting that drives me nuts!

Is no post complete unless it has the words 'Marxist' 'Leftist' or 'Fascist' in it - and ideally used wrongly?

Problem is progressives are just too stupid to understand where they fall....

It's almost like: "no we don't believe in global warming - we believe in climate change" - "progressive" and "socialist" are interchangeable.

"No we're not socialists we're progressive."

 

[Saigon]

We see through the hypocrisy and mindcontrolling nanipulative pile of leftist garbage for what it is and the fact of the architects being the only beneficiary of such socialist politics.

Who is talking about socialism?

This thread is about liberals.

IT's the same equation idiot.

No, it isn't. Idiot.

If you really think Socialism and Liberalism are the same "equation", you have just proven everything left wing posters may accuse conservatives of on this thread.

 

[syrenn]

Well, Syren, Saigon is not using those words, you are not using those words. But there are some others that are. And how many 'liberals' in this thread have used those words?

I did not say he was using them...nor did i say you were.... but saigon implies that everyone not a liberal uses them and that no none liberal post is complete without them.


The door swings both ways.

 

[Saigon]

"progressive" and "socialist" are interchangeable.

Jesus wept....you couldn't make this stuff up.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Not only are progressives socialists they're communists...

They want dictated outcomes dictated by the US government....

They'll claim they don't but they do.

 

[zonly1]

One thing that I have noticed is that I think we have quite a large number of posters here who genuinely think:

a) There are only two political schools of thought - conservative and liberal

b) Liberalism = socialism = marxism = The Greens = leftism = communism = Democrats

(but not necessarily fascism = rightism = conservatism = nationalism = Tea Party = NeoCons, oddly enough)

No one who falls into either of these categories can ever understand politics, and can never play much of a role on a forum except to spew cliches.

You ask a question and I pond u on it and then you open how ignet(per al sharptongue) you really are.
THanks for playing and next time, put a quarter in the machine.

 

[Mr.Nick]

"progressive" and "socialist" are interchangeable.

Jesus wept....you couldn't make this stuff up.

Then what are you progressing to and why do you love government?

 

[Saigon]

.... but saigon implies that everyone not a liberal uses them and that no none liberal post is complete without them.
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No, not at all - we have some very intelligent conservative posters on this board who understand politics extremely well.

I am in no way insulting conservatives or conservatism.

What I am insulting is ignorance. And unfortuantely, the kind of people who post the "socialism = liberal" cliches we see in two posts on this page alone are here in greater numbers on the right than left, IMHO.

 

[zonly1]

Who is talking about socialism?

This thread is about liberals.

IT's the same equation idiot.

No, it isn't. Idiot.

If you really think Socialism and Liberalism are the same "equation", you have just proven everything left wing posters may accuse conservatives of on this thread.

the only thing i have proven is you are a clown of infinite proportion b/c you state socialism and liberalism don't equal and I say to you are clown b/c socialism and liberalism are the same movements. YOu must have fallen off the turnip truck back in the day, moron.

 

[zonly1]

.... but saigon implies that everyone not a liberal uses them and that no none liberal post is complete without them.
]

No, not at all - we have some very intelligent conservative posters on this board who understand politics extremely well.

I am in no way insulting conservatives or conservatism.

What I am insulting is ignorance. And unfortuantely, the kind of people who post the "socialism = liberal" cliches we see in two posts on this page alone are here in greater numbers on the right than left, IMHO.

You need to grow up before you shoot your mouth off clyde but roll the dice

 

[syrenn]

.... but saigon implies that everyone not a liberal uses them and that no none liberal post is complete without them.
]

No, not at all - we have some very intelligent conservative posters on this board who understand politics extremely well.

I am in no way insulting conservatives or conservatism.

What I am insulting is ignorance. And unfortuantely, the kind of people who post the "socialism = liberal" cliches we see in two posts on this page alone are here in greater numbers on the right than left, IMHO.

What can i say.... a good deal of the liberals have been banned ....and its not easy getting banned.

In my opinion there are just as many left hacks on this board as there are right ones. I am sure the left leaning posters feel more comfortable on left leaning boards and congregate there.

Trust me.... the right feels the same way as you.... "all the liberal hacks out there on this board" and also post at more conservative sites.

So again..... the left is just as brittle and unbending as the right....just as foul mouthed,insulting and trollish as the right.... the left is just as ignorant and stupid as the left.

 

[Care4all]

People who can't take responsibility for their own actions generally find someone else to blame, and hate who they've decided to peg, to make themselves feel better, I suppose?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

The amount of comments from people suggesting all liberals are stupid, anti-patriotic, dumb...you name it. One even suggested liberals don't know what paragraphs are.

I don't get it. And I don't see anything the like the contempt expressed by liberals towards conservatives.

Firstly, the term "liberal" could be used to describe about half of the planet. Like "leftist", it's a fairly cliched catch-all adjective that have little real meaning. It's just too general to be much use.

Secondly, I've met extremely intelligent people from right across the political spectrum - and as many idiots. I've talked to brilliant facists, idiotic conservatives, intelligent communists and brain-dead centrists. I don't see a pattern there at all.

And lastly, why hate liberals when many of the most successful and celebrated administrations have been liberal ones? Were the governments if Clinton, Wilson, FDR, JFK and Truman really so much worse than conservative governments of similar eras?

The constant attacks on liberals seems to me (as an outsider) just a sign of incredible arrogance and conceit - and I would consider attacks on conservatives the same way.

If there is a REAL reason, with facts, for hating liberals - let's hear about it.

Meanwhile we have threads where Liberals on this board called republicans and tea party members terrorists. Traitors murderers and mentally incompetent. I can't count how many times the left on this board has posted threads claiming Conservatives are mental defectives, mental disorders or insane. I can't count how many times the term terrorist has been used by Liberals on this board to describe Tea party and Conservatives. All with out a single source to back the claim.

Every time there is a high profile shooting the left in the media and this board and the DNC all announce gleefully that it was done by a member of the Tea party or a conservative. And every time they are wrong.

Asking for positive Id to vote is labeled a trick to deny voting rights, or claimed to be a poll tax. How many threads have we had where it is claimed the right stole elections and in the same breath statements that voter fraud doesn't happen so no need for ID. Explain again how the right supposedly stole a National election twice if there was no voter fraud. Ohh and provide evidence any election was actually stolen.

You sure we are on the same board?

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. Ol' Nicky Baby and Zoned Out proving everything that Saigon said about very willfully ignorant assholes. Gotta love it.

 

[Saigon]

Mr Nick & Zonly -

the only thing i have proven is you are a clown of infinite proportion b/c you state socialism and liberalism don't equal and I say to you are clown b/c socialism and liberalism are the same movements. YOu must have fallen off the turnip truck back in the day, moron.

No, I am on fairly solid ground here - I have both studied and worked with political theory from time to time.

The best map we have of political theories is the horseshoe, which is linked below.

What the horseshoe shows is that people close to the centre on either left or right wing are much, much closer to each other than they are to the extremes.

Clinton (centre left) is closer to Bush (centre right) than he is to Stalin (extreme left).

McCain (centre right) is closer to Obama (Social Democract) than he is to Hitler (extreme right).

This is really the basis to understanding all political theory.

Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia