Why Did My Friends Die in Iraq?

[Luddly Neddite]

And yet you think Big Ears is better than W. Why?

I have no idea who you're talking about but it was George Bush who sent our people to their deaths and to be maimed for nothing at all. It was George Bush who put us into debt and all but bankrupted us.

The worthless little asshole didn't even get the oil he was really after.

All of 'our people' who went to Iraq volunteered. No one forced them to go. Get that straight first.

So, being a patriot, volunteering for your country - to you, that's just cause to be punished for the rest of their lives.

WTF is WRONG with you?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

You are a ******* idiot. I guess we should have just said thank you to Japan for Pearl Harbor.

That's not just apples compared to oranges.

That's apples compared to tennis rackets.

What the **** are you mumbling about ,Comrade? You agree we should have done nothing about Pearl Harbor because the mainland wasn't attacked? Killing 2700 Americans was not cause to retaliate?

IRAQ.

The thread is about Iraq.

It makes no sense to drag Pearl Harbor into it because the two have nothing in common.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

You really think 5 years is long enough to fix what has been wrong since before WWII?

He's good but, believe it or not, he's not a god.

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Quit blaming President Obama for everything. Its childish and counter-productive.


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I am not blaming him...I am merely pointing out he has done nothing more for them than any other President - besides lip service.
You are the one that said "especially NOW vets have to fight for crumbs"
I assumed by "now", you meant now.

Republicans kept first responders from health care for 10 years. What makes you think they don't work tirelessly to block anything that would help veterans?

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Oh damn.

Facts.

Bet you'll get flamed for that.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

seems to me the republicans were only echoing the same cries made by the Clinton administration before them. seems to me the democrats were in agreement with the decision to go to war and continued to vote to fund the war as it progressed.

Bush let Bin Laden go. Did they end up on the same side? Considering the damage both did to the country, it could be.

The title of this thread is not 'why did Bush let bin Laden go.' The title of this thread is 'Why did my friends die in Iraq.'

The answer is simple: Because they volunteered to go. That's why. No other statement answers the question, nutcase.

That's not what you said to the ditz whose trying to make it about WWII.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/military/333652-why-did-my-friends-die-in-iraq-2.html#post8419999

Hypocrite.

 

[Sunshine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-23kmhc3P8U

Bush let Bin Laden go. Did they end up on the same side? Considering the damage both did to the country, it could be.

The title of this thread is not 'why did Bush let bin Laden go.' The title of this thread is 'Why did my friends die in Iraq.'

The answer is simple: Because they volunteered to go. That's why. No other statement answers the question, nutcase.

That's not what you said to the ditz whose trying to make it about WWII.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/military/333652-why-did-my-friends-die-in-iraq-2.html#post8419999

Hypocrite.

WWII veterans were conscripted. Vietnam veterans were conscripted. Iraq veterans AND those who died there ALL volunteered. 100% of them.

Your 1970s rhetoric is hopelessly outdate.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

people "volunteer" (I did) based on trust that our leaders wouldn't fight "voluntary wars for profit" that only profit well-connected, arms manufacturers & shameless portfolio managers.

And, you shouldn't have to pay for it for the rest of your life.

Thank you for your service.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

War is always a failure unless conducted in self defense. It's a total negative undertaking. It kills, it maims and it displaces. It causes debt and it ultimately causes more violence.

This nation could use a heavy dose of the NAP.

This is the smartest post I've read in a while.

When will we learn that the real enemy is war itself?

 

[Sunshine]

That (not)war cost me more than I ever thought possible.

You bet I have "issues" with it.

I think its wrong for us to desert our vets.

Period.

LOL. How many vets have you EVER worked with? My guess is zero. You are a puffed up pontificating toad frog and all you do is sit and post on a message board all day.

Worked with?
A lot.

Married to?
Two. One killed in nam, the other came back a broken addict.

Not every person who has gone to war came back 'broken.' And I seriously doubt that you have worked with ANY veterans. The only people who work with our veterans are people like me who get degrees and know how to help them. If you ever worked at a veterans organization it was as nothing more than a typist.

 

[Spoonman]

Don't forget the war crimes of dropping white phosphorous on Falugia.


the US army melted men women and children with it.

Its a HORRIBLE death.


why did no one get wars crimes convictions?

falugia? is that an italian pasta dish?

 

[gipper]

Why did we invade Iraq?

Even if you're able to forgive bush and his cronies for putting us so deeply in debt that it will take generations to dig us out, the wanton and needless killing and maiming of so many Americans and others is just unforgivable.

Especially since vets ow have to keep fighting for every little crumb they get.

All the Americans who died in Iraq, died in vain. Sadly it is nothing new.

The Americans who died in WWII in Europe died to end Nazism, but also to give the Russian communist totalitarians Eastern and Central Europe for the next 45 years. That is, so that that part of the world could be ruled by international socialists instead of self-described national socialists. All in the name of “freedom.”

When will we Americans realize that our leaders are nothing but corrupt incompetent bastards?

 

[Stephanie]

So you disagree with the underlying principles of this great country. The founders fought for money or were you absent from school the day they taught 'taxation without representation?' And I hate to tell you, but the laws of this country favor commerce. Commerce and money are why we are here. I guess you missed that little 'Life, liberty, and pursuit of property' thingy too.

Sunshine attacking a veteran. That's just damn funny as much as you have trolled and stalked me on this forum. You are not a veteran. You are nothing but an asswipe.

I guess you told this veteran off OK. The role of the US, since its founding, IS to fight wars to enrich the weapons manufacturers Cheney/Bu$h II agree w/ you

You are not a veteran. Veterans do not speak to women the way you speak to me on this forum. You are nothing but an asswipe.

agreed

 

[Warrior102]

Especially since vets ow have to keep fighting for every little crumb they get.

Write a letter to Obama you stupid ****.

 

[Stephanie]

Especially since vets ow have to keep fighting for every little crumb they get.

Write a letter to Obama you stupid ****.

Now come on that's asking to much of the boy king..Nothing is HIS FAULT it's everyone else but his

remember, he's goooooooooooooooood but he's not god

these people make me sick using our vets for their ugly agendas

 

[Bumberclyde]

Oh BTW it also causes deformaties for years to come in births

So does cannabis.

But in a good way.

 

[Bumberclyde]

We should have never gone into Iraq, but if anyone thinks it's a Bush thing, you are ******* stupid beyond all words.

Why? Whose thing is it, if not Mr Mission Accomplished's?

 

[rdean]

I guess you told this veteran off OK. The role of the US, since its founding, IS to fight wars to enrich the weapons manufacturers Cheney/Bu$h II agree w/ you

You are not a veteran. Veterans do not speak to women the way you speak to me on this forum. You are nothing but an asswipe.

agreed

If someone says they are a veteran, I take them at their word. Whether or not they are telling the truth is not for me to decide. Republicans pretending to be human is worse than someone pretending to be a veteran. Democrats want to help veterans. Republicans want to crush veterans. How many times on this board have right wingers said, "You enlisted, you knew what you were getting into"?

Beside, for a real veteran, if they hear another describe their military experience, it's really easy to spot the fakes. I think that's why so few claim to be veterans who aren't.

 

[Indofred]

Why did we invade Iraq?

Even if you're able to forgive bush and his cronies for putting us so deeply in debt that it will take generations to dig us out, the wanton and needless killing and maiming of so many Americans and others is just unforgivable.

Especially since vets ow have to keep fighting for every little crumb they get.

The arms industry, including Bush's companies, made a fortune out of it.
You should be thankful your friends didn't die for nothing; they died to make Bush and his pals rich.

Does that make you feel better?

 

[georgephillip]

Especially since vets ow have to keep fighting for every little crumb they get.

Write a letter to Obama you stupid ****.

Now come on that's asking to much of the boy king..Nothing is HIS FAULT it's everyone else but his

remember, he's goooooooooooooooood but he's not god

these people make me sick using our vets for their ugly agendas

It's the same agenda as Dick and Dubya and Bubba and all the previous corporate tools have followed, and it will never change by "choosing" between Republican OR Democrat in the voting booth.

 

[Bloodrock44]

Here's my take on why we went to Iraq. Call me crazy but I strongly believe it was a personal vendetta. If you'll recall, old man Bush was in Saudi Arabia in 1993 and a plot to kill him was uncovered and it was determined Saddam was behind it. Fast forward to 2003. We're chugging along on the war on terror, focused on Afghanistan, and out of the clear blue sky Bush does a 180 and it's all about Saddam and his WMD's. No one was convinced America was in danger, so why invade? I strongly believe that Bush was saying to Saddam "you tried to kill my Daddy and now I'm going to kill your sons in front of your eyes and then I'm going to hang you". Can anyone deny this happened? I also believe that every American who died or was maimed in Iraq has been a despicable waste of American treasure.

 

[editec]

“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.”

“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.”

“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.”

“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.”

Some things are just worth repeating.