Why Did My Friends Die in Iraq?

[thanatos144]

Hey..................Thanatos144, how many years did YOU serve in the military?

Me? I served 20 years in the U.S. Navy.

I'm guessing you served zero, because you don't really sound like you've ever been in, you just sound like someone who likes to tout the troops, yet would never serve.

Oh I am sorry not serving means I can't speak the truth? Thank you for your service but I will tell the truth regardless and if you don't like it to ******* bad.

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[ABikerSailor]

Hey..................Thanatos144, how many years did YOU serve in the military?

Me? I served 20 years in the U.S. Navy.

I'm guessing you served zero, because you don't really sound like you've ever been in, you just sound like someone who likes to tout the troops, yet would never serve.

Oh I am sorry not serving means I can't speak the truth? Thank you for your service but I will tell the truth regardless and if you don't like it to ******* bad.

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Just what I'd thought, you never served and will never admit the fact you haven't, but will continue to tout the service of others and support them, even though you disagree.

Thanks for proving my point.

You might speak your version of the truth, but you haven't got the experience to speak for the troops you claim to speak for.

If I heard you speaking like that in a bar? I'd probably kick your ass.

 

[thanatos144]

Hey..................Thanatos144, how many years did YOU serve in the military?

Me? I served 20 years in the U.S. Navy.

I'm guessing you served zero, because you don't really sound like you've ever been in, you just sound like someone who likes to tout the troops, yet would never serve.

Oh I am sorry not serving means I can't speak the truth? Thank you for your service but I will tell the truth regardless and if you don't like it to ******* bad.

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Just what I'd thought, you never served and will never admit the fact you haven't, but will continue to tout the service of others and support them, even though you disagree.

Thanks for proving my point.

You might speak your version of the truth, but you haven't got the experience to speak for the troops you claim to speak for.

If I heard you speaking like that in a bar? I'd probably kick your ass.

Would never say I didn't serve? You don't know shit it seems. Everyone knows I didn't serve. Also serving isn't a requirement for speech, dick

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[ABikerSailor]

Oh I am sorry not serving means I can't speak the truth? Thank you for your service but I will tell the truth regardless and if you don't like it to ******* bad.

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Just what I'd thought, you never served and will never admit the fact you haven't, but will continue to tout the service of others and support them, even though you disagree.

Thanks for proving my point.

You might speak your version of the truth, but you haven't got the experience to speak for the troops you claim to speak for.

If I heard you speaking like that in a bar? I'd probably kick your ass.

Would never say I didn't serve? You don't know shit it seems. Everyone knows I didn't serve. Also serving isn't a requirement for speech, dick

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Never said anything about service being a requirement for speech. I just said that you'd never served, and you proved that by posting that you'd never served, and I also said that if I heard you spout the bullshit that you're spewing right now, and if I heard it in a bar, I'd probably come over and kick your ass for being stupid.

I wouldn't kick your ass for not serving, I'd kick your ass for being ignorant.

 

[thanatos144]

Just what I'd thought, you never served and will never admit the fact you haven't, but will continue to tout the service of others and support them, even though you disagree.

Thanks for proving my point.

You might speak your version of the truth, but you haven't got the experience to speak for the troops you claim to speak for.

If I heard you speaking like that in a bar? I'd probably kick your ass.

Would never say I didn't serve? You don't know shit it seems. Everyone knows I didn't serve. Also serving isn't a requirement for speech, dick

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Never said anything about service being a requirement for speech. I just said that you'd never served, and you proved that by posting that you'd never served, and I also said that if I heard you spout the bullshit that you're spewing right now, and if I heard it in a bar, I'd probably come over and kick your ass for being stupid.

I wouldn't kick your ass for not serving, I'd kick your ass for being ignorant.

You mean spouting facts? Go try and intimidate someone who is stupid because right now youre just irritating me

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[ABikerSailor]

You may be "spouting facts" but unfortunately, most of those facts are wrong.

I irritate you? Probably because you know that the "facts" you're spouting are wrong, and just like any other person who has their "facts" challenged and proven wrong, you're upset because people are looking at you as just another bullshitter.

And................like I've said....................you would never spout the bullshit you currently are if you'd ever served. Because I've listened to what you've said, I know that you never served, and probably never will. You're too selfish and self absorbed to serve on a team or in a unit.

 

[thanatos144]

You may be "spouting facts" but unfortunately, most of those facts are wrong.

I irritate you? Probably because you know that the "facts" you're spouting are wrong, and just like any other person who has their "facts" challenged and proven wrong, you're upset because people are looking at you as just another bullshitter.

And................like I've said....................you would never spout the bullshit you currently are if you'd ever served. Because I've listened to what you've said, I know that you never served, and probably never will. You're too selfish and self absorbed to serve on a team or in a unit.

You haven't challenged shit all you have done is try to insult me for not being in the military.

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[thanatos144]

I am glad not everyone in the navy is a assmunch like you

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[ABikerSailor]

Actually, I've challenged the posts you've made, and have been proven right as far as I can see, because the only thing you have is attacks on me.

And, you're right...................not every one in the Navy is an "assmunch" as myself. Why? Because we actually try to wait and see if someone is an idiot before we call them such.

Like I said, if you were in the military, you wouldn't post bullshit like you have, you'd probably have some real shit to say.

 

[thanatos144]

Actually, I've challenged the posts you've made, and have been proven right as far as I can see, because the only thing you have is attacks on me.

And, you're right...................not every one in the Navy is an "assmunch" as myself. Why? Because we actually try to wait and see if someone is an idiot before we call them such.

Like I said, if you were in the military, you wouldn't post bullshit like you have, you'd probably have some real shit to say.

If you challenge someone you do it with facts not chest pounding and how I know most in the navy isn't like you is because quite a few family members are in it and my son is joining soon. He wouldn't Care for you ether

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[ABikerSailor]

Actually, I've challenged the posts you've made, and have been proven right as far as I can see, because the only thing you have is attacks on me.

And, you're right...................not every one in the Navy is an "assmunch" as myself. Why? Because we actually try to wait and see if someone is an idiot before we call them such.

Like I said, if you were in the military, you wouldn't post bullshit like you have, you'd probably have some real shit to say.

If you challenge someone you do it with facts not chest pounding and how I know most in the navy isn't like you is because quite a few family members are in it and my son is joining soon. He wouldn't Care for you ether

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Actually, it's not chest pounding because I know that you're a civilian who is trying to feed off the service of your family.

Your son is joining soon? Good. I wish him fair winds and following seas, but with an anchor such as yourself (who is a bigot) he's going to have a hard time unless he can jettison bullshit that you bring with you.

And, by the way.............................if you only know an organization (like the U.S. Navy) by only one person, how can you REALLY know the organization?

I mean.....................I had my pre conceived notions, but were soon shown they were wrong when I showed up in boot camp.

You never showed up, you never served (as was referred by your previous post), yet you seem to know what goes on in the military.

How did you gain that insight?

 

[thanatos144]

So did Saddam fund terrorism or didn't he?

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[9thIDdoc]

Gosh, Biker, how much combat have you been in?
How much trigger time have you had?
How many KIAs and WIAs have you been closely involved with?
How much service connected disability do you have?

My guess would be that you have exactly the same amt. of relevant experience as thanatos (none).
And his POV is much more nearly correct than your own.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Gosh, Biker, how much combat have you been in?
How much trigger time have you had?
How many KIAs and WIAs have you been closely involved with?
How much service connected disability do you have?

My guess would be that you have exactly the same amt. of relevant experience as thanatos (none).
And his POV is much more nearly correct than your own.

Actually, I've got time in war zones, and it's been reflected in my pay.

How much trigger time do I have? Well, I never pulled the trigger, because that was left to the capable hands of the GM's (Gunner's Mates), and I have no KIA or WIA's that I've been involved with.

But then again, I was lucky in the places I've served. I spent time in Beruit (when the Marines were hit, and some of them were my friends).

Again.................I've been lucky in my service because I don't have any service connected disabilities. However..................I DO have friends that are service connected disabilities, although the U.S. Government chooses to not acknowledge Gulf War Syndrome, but they're getting closer to having it acknowledged.

 

[mudwhistle]

Gosh, Biker, how much combat have you been in?
How much trigger time have you had?
How many KIAs and WIAs have you been closely involved with?
How much service connected disability do you have?

My guess would be that you have exactly the same amt. of relevant experience as thanatos (none).
And his POV is much more nearly correct than your own.

Actually, I've got time in war zones, and it's been reflected in my pay.

How much trigger time do I have? Well, I never pulled the trigger, because that was left to the capable hands of the GM's (Gunner's Mates), and I have no KIA or WIA's that I've been involved with.

But then again, I was lucky in the places I've served. I spent time in Beruit (when the Marines were hit, and some of them were my friends).

Again.................I've been lucky in my service because I don't have any service connected disabilities. However..................I DO have friends that are service connected disabilities, although the U.S. Government chooses to not acknowledge Gulf War Syndrome, but they're getting closer to having it acknowledged.

Unless you had bullets zinging around you, or bombs exploding in your A.O. I don't think you really understand the issue.

Try being out there day in and day out. Nothing between you and death but your wits and your training. It can be a bit unsettling at times. The unknown is what gets to you. Dealing with it is up to you.

 

[Dot Com]

So did Saddam fund terrorism or didn't he?

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So was that the Bush admin's PRIMARY reason for having a 10+ year war w/ 4,000+ casualties?

 

[mudwhistle]

So did Saddam fund terrorism or didn't he?

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So was that the Bush admin's PRIMARY reason for having a 10+ year war w/ 4,000+ casualties?

It was a concerted effort.

Bush didn't ask for a surge in Afghanistan. Most of our troops were in Iraq. Democrats felt Afghanistan was the good war. Bush signed an agreement for withdrawal in Iraq before leaving office yet Obama tried to prevent it , according to the Iraqi government.

This is yet again the left blaming their acts on the GOP.

Who got us into Vietnam? JFK. Who was blamed the most for Vietnam? Nixon.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"So was that the Bush admin's PRIMARY reason for having a 10+ year war w/ 4,000+ casualties?"

America's involvement was initiated by Iraq's invasion and occupation of Kuwait. Where were you? It was in all the papers.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Gosh, Biker, how much combat have you been in?
How much trigger time have you had?
How many KIAs and WIAs have you been closely involved with?
How much service connected disability do you have?

My guess would be that you have exactly the same amt. of relevant experience as thanatos (none).
And his POV is much more nearly correct than your own.

Actually, I've got time in war zones, and it's been reflected in my pay.

How much trigger time do I have? Well, I never pulled the trigger, because that was left to the capable hands of the GM's (Gunner's Mates), and I have no KIA or WIA's that I've been involved with.

But then again, I was lucky in the places I've served. I spent time in Beruit (when the Marines were hit, and some of them were my friends).

Again.................I've been lucky in my service because I don't have any service connected disabilities. However..................I DO have friends that are service connected disabilities, although the U.S. Government chooses to not acknowledge Gulf War Syndrome, but they're getting closer to having it acknowledged.

Unless you had bullets zinging around you, or bombs exploding in your A.O. I don't think you really understand the issue.

Try being out there day in and day out. Nothing between you and death but your wits and your training. It can be a bit unsettling at times. The unknown is what gets to you. Dealing with it is up to you.

Actually, having a shell explode about 100 yards of my starboard bow while I was standing watch during flight quarters doing UNREP for the various boats and other places where we were sending rations and supplies qualifies. Ever had to wonder if your house was going to be there the next couple of seconds? I have.

And yeah..................I do understand the issue. I've been there a couple of times. How many times have you been there?

 

[mudwhistle]

Actually, I've got time in war zones, and it's been reflected in my pay.

How much trigger time do I have? Well, I never pulled the trigger, because that was left to the capable hands of the GM's (Gunner's Mates), and I have no KIA or WIA's that I've been involved with.

But then again, I was lucky in the places I've served. I spent time in Beruit (when the Marines were hit, and some of them were my friends).

Again.................I've been lucky in my service because I don't have any service connected disabilities. However..................I DO have friends that are service connected disabilities, although the U.S. Government chooses to not acknowledge Gulf War Syndrome, but they're getting closer to having it acknowledged.

Unless you had bullets zinging around you, or bombs exploding in your A.O. I don't think you really understand the issue.

Try being out there day in and day out. Nothing between you and death but your wits and your training. It can be a bit unsettling at times. The unknown is what gets to you. Dealing with it is up to you.

Actually, having a shell explode about 100 yards of my starboard bow while I was standing watch during flight quarters doing UNREP for the various boats and other places where we were sending rations and supplies qualifies. Ever had to wonder if your house was going to be there the next couple of seconds? I have.

And yeah..................I do understand the issue. I've been there a couple of times. How many times have you been there?

I've done my share of time in war zones. Not as much as they deal with now. I felt that my training was usually more dangerous than my normal deployments.

But being in a Hummer going down a road you know has IEDs is a scary prospect. I also spent 5 years on Navy ships, so I know the difference.