jknowgood
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For starters, dei hires he is firing?
Why Democrats lost the real election Autopsy
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If you think about it, you dumocrap racists have invested a serious amount of money and effort into creating a narrative that if you vote for the GOP you are a racist and a fascist. How's that working out for you? And some dumocrap racists, like you, are so ******* stupid that they will destroy their own lives to help push this narrative. Most people are smarter than that. They look beyond race when deciding their political choices. That doesn't make them racist, it makes them intelligent. But you wouldn't know that. Lastly, no one today discriminates based on skin color, they discriminate based on behavior. Act like a ******* moron, get treated like a ******* moron. Act like an asshole, get treated like an asshole. You wasted your whole life for a false narrative and as a punishment became a ******* moron and an asshole. Loser.Everybody is not called a racist. Only you racists are.
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Be Better, Media: Issues With Racial Framing in Post-2024 Election Coverage
Following the 2024 Election, media coverage has been dominated by newspapers seeking to articulate how Donald Trump won the election.1 As a part of this coverage, there is a noticeable rise in articles on the shift in Black and Latino votes for Trump with titles such as “Trump’s return to power fueled by Hispanic, working-class voter support,” and lines like “some surprising margins . . . within groups including women, Black and Latino voters helped carry the former president to victory.” While it is certainly important to recognize shifts in the voting patterns of people of color and what that means, the media framing that seeks to attribute Trump’s victory to people of color is concerning because it seemingly blames those who will be most devastated by a second Trump term for his victory.
To be clear, Trump’s voting coalition is overwhelmingly composed of white voters. Approximately 84% of the votes for Trump in 2024 were cast by white voters
Be Better, Media: Issues With Racial Framing in Post-2024 Election Coverage
www.law.georgetown.edu
You guys can create all the excuses you want to use as plausible deniability, but the truth is what it is. Whites voted for racism. Whites were the only population that voted for Trump in a majority.
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The Dems lost because they thought they had demographics in the bag after Obama won and completely lost their focus. They took the lower and middle classes for granted and started weaponizing PC and Identity Politics against those groups.
You can't tell the middle and lower classes they're your priority, when you're screaming at them, threatening them, shutting down their business and getting them fired because they "offended" one of your pet identity groups.
Now the GQP is stupidly doing everything it can to hand everything back to the Dems. Back and forth, back and forth. Neither party learns a goddamn thing, because they both think they have all the freakin' answers.
You can't tell the middle and lower classes they're your priority, when you're screaming at them, threatening them, shutting down their business and getting them fired because they "offended" one of your pet identity groups.
Now the GQP is stupidly doing everything it can to hand everything back to the Dems. Back and forth, back and forth. Neither party learns a goddamn thing, because they both think they have all the freakin' answers.
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And more showed up for the old white guy than the Indian woman, which is my point.
Except that we know Republicans would not vote for Cackles, no matter what color her skin is. And we know that Quid Pro Joe got millions more votes than she did. Since Republicans didn't vote for either Quid Pro or Cackles, that leaves democrats who voted for the old white guy but not the Indian woman. Unless, of course, you maintain that those millions of votes for Quid Pro were not for real.View attachment 1265140
Presidential Election of 2024 - 270toWin
Results of the presidential election of 2024, won by Donald J. Trump with 312 electoral voteswww.270towin.com
2012 Presidential Election | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
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2012 Presidential Election | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
So you can stop repeating that right wing racist garbage whits are using as plausible deniability to deflect from the real reason Trump is in the white house f-ng up th country.
You won't condemn the party for embracing a KKK muckity-muck, nor will you condemn the KKK muckity-muck. You won't condemn the party for embracing a president who fought to fly the confederate flag, nor will you condemn the president who fought for it. You won't condemn the party for embracing a president who made multiple public racist remarks, nor will you condemn the president who made them. You won't condemn the party that embraced a governor who showed up in black face, nor will you condemn the governor who did it. The bottom line remains that you are a democrat hack who simply will not condemn other democrats for being racists, yet you want to condemn me because I would rather engage with you than white racists that I wouldn't give the time of day.
Actually, I see that pattern in you a lot. When someone merely opposes or questions something you say, you immediately jump to calling them a racist, and you're very angry about it. Then, you apply standards to yourself to prove you're not a racist that you won't apply to others. What magic do you claim to have that immunizes you from being a racist when you use racist rhetoric?
Okay, tell me why the race of a brain surgeon matters more than his skill. Tell me why the racial makeup of a bridge construction crew matters more than their ability to construct a bridge that's safe to cross over.
And this is why I know you're full of it. Quote me on what I said repeatedly about DEI, then come back. This is something you've never done, though I've repeatedly cited it.
Of course they have, and they still do, even though we're working to erase it. See, here's where I AGAIN make a statement that you will shortly claim I did not.
People get jobs all the time for factors that have nothing to do with their qualifications, and you know it. Know somebody in a position to hire you? You have an edge. Be in the same frat as somebody in a position to hire you? Edge. Be a protestor on issues somebody agrees with? Edge.
There are a whole lot more reasons why people get hired than skin color, yet you would fight tooth and nail to preserve an edge that you get from attending the same school as a hiring manager.
I have said that skin color should not give anyone an edge when it comes to hiring, but you ignore that because it gets in the way of your narrative. This is why you have no credibility when you call me a racist.
And I have shown you that statement is false, repeatedly, yet my prediction is that you will continue to ignore what I actually say in favor of your chosen narrative. Here is a chance for you to acknowledge that a major plank in your complaint is false.
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A plantation run by rich white liberals. Some things never change.
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Unproven fact, Next!
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I'm sorry, but after Trump's incompetence, and his wide-ranging crimes and behaviors, all you have room to complain about are...pronouns.
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Trump is whining on all fronts.
Corruption existed throughout our history. It is the size of government that expands geometrically aligned with that corruption that is our eventual death knell. The people who did it will slither out of the picture, and we will know who they were while blaming each other.
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I know what Democrats need to do.
What I have seen from Democrats until recently reminds me of Coach Klein in “The Waterboy.” It is as if Republicans are Red Beaulieu, taking Coach Klein's playbook and daring Democrats to do something about it. Over the past 45 years, starting with Reagan, I believe that Democrats have not fought hard enough for the people who vote for them. Especially us in the black community. Instead, they appear to be influenced by Republican messaging.
In both 2016 and 2024, the claim was that the election of Trump was caused by Democrats pushing identity politics. It was said Democratic obsession with political correctness and policies of inclusion angered most of the voters and that Democrats must moderate themselves if they want to win. While Republicans whine about how everybody should be moderate, they legislate from the extreme right. So as Republicans over the years have complained about the imaginary far left ruling the Democratic Party, Democrats have made sure to try making certain that everybody saw just how moderate they are. This moderation looks like Democrats standing for nothing to people who are observers like me.
Observing Gavin Newsom's conversation with Charlie Kirk was quite discomforting. As a result, I will not vote for Newsom should he be the Democratic nominee. Appeasing racists, sexists, misogynists, homophobes and anti LGBT types to win an election is just not the way to go, and if people are offended by unapologetic opposition to such people or ideas, then go join the Republican Party. This kind of appeasement is why 85.9 million Americans didn’t vote in 2024, and this kind of appeasement is going to make it so that 85.9 million more won’t vote in 2028.
It may be beneficial for some Democrats to recognize that the current Democratic Party differs significantly from the Democratic Party of the 1980s and 1990s. Maybe Democrats need go look at the presidential election results over the last 50 years. But hey, I’m just a 65 year-old man living in Kansas, so what do I know? Democrats, consider the following question: “When, in the past 50 years, have the majority of white voters supported a Democratic candidate for President?”
In the 13 Presidential elections between 1976 and 2024, the white vote averaged 55 percent for Republicans. During the same time frame, Democratic politicians and consultants have frantically chased white voters. They have gone on for years about how they should get back the white voters they have lost. What about the voters from diverse backgrounds, such as Black, Hispanic, Asian, and Native American communities that Democrats have attracted?
According to the same data over the same 13 elections, blacks averaged nearly 88 percent voting Democrat. Hispanics 65 percent. Asians have averaged 61 percent voting Democrat. Native Americans have historically voted Democrat, and in 2024, 57 percent of Native Americans voted for Harris. It appears that the Democratic Party receives the majority of votes from Black, Asian, Hispanic, and Native American communities. These are populations that Democrats have generally taken for granted while focusing on a group of people who have not voted Democrat in the majority for at least the last 50 years. No longer can Democrats ignore the needs of these groups and then show up during election year asking for votes.
Democrats can no longer continue using the same consultants and the same strategy for political campaigns. Nor can the media continue using old political consultants for analysts. If Democrats intend to succeed, they should recruit new analysts and implement strategies tailored to the current Democratic electorate.
There have been 7 presidential elections this century, and the Republican candidate has won the popular vote twice. If Democrats want to continue losing, they will keep listening to Republicans telling them what they should do. The Tennessee Titans can’t tell the Seattle Seahawks how they need to change the way they play football because they won a game. Deval Patrick told us what Democrats needed to do more than a decade ago. It’s time for Democrats to get their clothes dirty and to never again accommodate extremism.
"It's time for Democrats to grow a backbone and stand up for what we believe."
Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, 2012 Democratic National Convention
Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, 2012 Democratic National Convention
What I have seen from Democrats until recently reminds me of Coach Klein in “The Waterboy.” It is as if Republicans are Red Beaulieu, taking Coach Klein's playbook and daring Democrats to do something about it. Over the past 45 years, starting with Reagan, I believe that Democrats have not fought hard enough for the people who vote for them. Especially us in the black community. Instead, they appear to be influenced by Republican messaging.
In both 2016 and 2024, the claim was that the election of Trump was caused by Democrats pushing identity politics. It was said Democratic obsession with political correctness and policies of inclusion angered most of the voters and that Democrats must moderate themselves if they want to win. While Republicans whine about how everybody should be moderate, they legislate from the extreme right. So as Republicans over the years have complained about the imaginary far left ruling the Democratic Party, Democrats have made sure to try making certain that everybody saw just how moderate they are. This moderation looks like Democrats standing for nothing to people who are observers like me.
Observing Gavin Newsom's conversation with Charlie Kirk was quite discomforting. As a result, I will not vote for Newsom should he be the Democratic nominee. Appeasing racists, sexists, misogynists, homophobes and anti LGBT types to win an election is just not the way to go, and if people are offended by unapologetic opposition to such people or ideas, then go join the Republican Party. This kind of appeasement is why 85.9 million Americans didn’t vote in 2024, and this kind of appeasement is going to make it so that 85.9 million more won’t vote in 2028.
It may be beneficial for some Democrats to recognize that the current Democratic Party differs significantly from the Democratic Party of the 1980s and 1990s. Maybe Democrats need go look at the presidential election results over the last 50 years. But hey, I’m just a 65 year-old man living in Kansas, so what do I know? Democrats, consider the following question: “When, in the past 50 years, have the majority of white voters supported a Democratic candidate for President?”
In the 13 Presidential elections between 1976 and 2024, the white vote averaged 55 percent for Republicans. During the same time frame, Democratic politicians and consultants have frantically chased white voters. They have gone on for years about how they should get back the white voters they have lost. What about the voters from diverse backgrounds, such as Black, Hispanic, Asian, and Native American communities that Democrats have attracted?
According to the same data over the same 13 elections, blacks averaged nearly 88 percent voting Democrat. Hispanics 65 percent. Asians have averaged 61 percent voting Democrat. Native Americans have historically voted Democrat, and in 2024, 57 percent of Native Americans voted for Harris. It appears that the Democratic Party receives the majority of votes from Black, Asian, Hispanic, and Native American communities. These are populations that Democrats have generally taken for granted while focusing on a group of people who have not voted Democrat in the majority for at least the last 50 years. No longer can Democrats ignore the needs of these groups and then show up during election year asking for votes.
Democrats can no longer continue using the same consultants and the same strategy for political campaigns. Nor can the media continue using old political consultants for analysts. If Democrats intend to succeed, they should recruit new analysts and implement strategies tailored to the current Democratic electorate.
There have been 7 presidential elections this century, and the Republican candidate has won the popular vote twice. If Democrats want to continue losing, they will keep listening to Republicans telling them what they should do. The Tennessee Titans can’t tell the Seattle Seahawks how they need to change the way they play football because they won a game. Deval Patrick told us what Democrats needed to do more than a decade ago. It’s time for Democrats to get their clothes dirty and to never again accommodate extremism.
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More people showed up for the old white guy than they did for Obama, too. Your excuse doesn't hold water. Stop denying the reality you were shown if you read the links.
Wrong on all counts. The Democratic Party platform of policies is not based on false white grievances, and it is not about imposing a white Christian nationalist theocracy based on white male control and domination.
I don't know who that presidential candidate was who fought to fly the Confederate flag, but you have one Republican president who not only wants to do that, but he wants to erase any history that includes non-white accomplishments, and then erase the policies of the Civil Rights Act. I dn't live in Virginia and Northem got blasted by the Democrats. He did not double down and claim the media was making it up like Rpublicans do. The same goes for Platner.
My opinion of the Republican Party is based on watching things since I was a kid. White liberals didn't tell me anything. 65 years of life, 50 years of watching how Republicans did things, told me. Nixon, Reagan, both Bushes. Trump. Republicans in this state. You guys tell us how Democrats started the KKK. You tell us how Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act. They did. Southern Democrats. Today, the South is Republican. Those Southern Democrats are now Republicans. The descendants of those Southern Democrats are now in forums like this, telling black people how today's Democratic Party is the party of slavery, Jim Crow, anti-civil rights, and racism. This is how dishonest you Republicans are.
It's funny you type this. There are whites here who disagree with me, whom I have never called a racist. You guys don't seem to get the fact that, after facing white racism for 65 years, I just might know when I am in an encounter with an racist. Furthermore, when I speak about the experience of blacks and the impact of white racism on blacks, why are you disagreeing with something you have not experienced?
Why is it that you guys believe you can insult our intelligence by lying about how things are, and we are not supposed to get upset, but you guys can get mad at shit you imagine happening that no credible data shows to be true?
The response or reaction to racism is not racism. When will whites on the right put down their dishonest and fake victimhood and understand that? You guys want so desperately to call everybody else a racist to deny your problem an not take the steps needed ncy tp nedd to n th prolm whit ct. White racism is a belief created by whites about their superiority. What you call black racism is in fact the reaction to 400 years of white racism that you want everybody to forget.
White racism is a belief. There ain't too many blacks taught that all whites are this or that. What happens is that we end up facing racism from a bunch of white people, and then dishonest people like you want to call us racists because we don't trust that all white people aren't racist after facing white racism for years. Then in this forum we get the stories from the 70 and 80 somethings of how they went to an a black school in the 60 or 70s and the black w just much o vn mo racist thn whites. It's amazing just how you guys on the right twist yourself up to try being victims of what you guys want to call black racism. During th 60s. I wEnt to a mostly whitE school in the 60's. My first name changed and in fact every black person had the same name and it began with an N. The dishonesty from the right is astounding.
The issue of race in hiring or promoting has noot been raised by you or any other white person here unless it's about non-whites. No matter how many times you make your claim or demand that I waste my time looking for a comment you made, while you call me a racist and cannot find one thing I have said that is racist, the fact i tht cia l pfnc nv dicussd by whites hee whn smn white gets a job. The white Supreme Court justices are nveer quetiond or dissed like people here do Kitanje Jackson. Women, including white women, are part of DEI, not one of you questions the intellect of Coney Barrett or call her a DEI hire.
The reality in this particluar forum is that whites on the right do not appear to see themselves as a race,nor do they believe that race has anything to do with thier advancement. But anybody not white could not have done anything if not for their race. It's amazing.
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The basic difference is that so called whites have two parent families with fathers while the African American nit black culture has abandoned the father in their families. So its not race its behavior poor choices and poor moral values. Before the welfare state African Americans had low crime intact families and were making great accomplishments.
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If you do not vote for Byron Donalds, YOU AINT BLACK.
Dude looks black to me.
ANYONE WHO DOES NOT VOTE FOR HIM IS RACIST!
Dude looks black to me.
ANYONE WHO DOES NOT VOTE FOR HIM IS RACIST!
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ColonelAngus
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Yea, I guess they will say that kind of black person is not REALLY black.
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