Why Cops Reaction Different - White vs Black Carrying AR15

[S.J.]

All that proves is that when unemployment is low crime rates go down.

It proves that blacks commit far more violent crimes than whites.

Since you never provided the source for the data it does nothing of the sort.

But great job on exposing yourself as a racist.

Always good to be honest and up front about your agenda.

I guess this makes me a racist too?

It does if you don't consider the fact that blacks and minorities get incarcerated for stuff that whites are let go.........of course you won't believe that. You like to point out that there's more blacks in prison because you probably are racist.


On Sunday, the Washington Post featured an essay by two experts, Marc Mauer, executive director of The Sentencing Project, and David Cole, a Georgetown law professor, who in "Five Myths about Americans in Prison" examined the role of race in incarceration.

These men show that not only are people of color stopped more frequently by police, their communities, particularly with anti-drug efforts, receive far more attention from police. And black men are often charged and prosecuted differently than their White counterparts.


They point out that although Whites and African Americans use and sell drugs at about the same rates, Black men in 2003 were almost 12 times as likely to go to prison as White men. Although Black people are 12 percent of the population and 14 percent of drug users, according to Mauer and Cole, they comprise 34 percent of those arrested for drug offenses and 45 percent of those incarcerated in state prisons for such offenses.

Both men attribute disparities in incarceration rates in part to the way urban Black communities are policed.

"Police find drugs where they look for them," they wrote. "Inner-city, open-air drug markets are easier to bust than those that operate out of suburban basements. And numerous studies show that minorities are stopped by police more often than Whites."
The Reasons Why So Many Black People Are in Prison Go Well Beyond Profiling Keith Rushing

Damn, dude. You're the poster boy for denial. You know, the truth doesn't change by repeating over and over what you wish it would be. I think the FBI statistics are more reliable and accurate than the opinion of a liberal blogger from the Huffington Post, but feel free to continue to live in denial. It only makes you look like an idiot even more than you already did.

 

[Mertex]

All that proves is that when unemployment is low crime rates go down.

It proves that blacks commit far more violent crimes than whites.

Since you never provided the source for the data it does nothing of the sort.

But great job on exposing yourself as a racist.

Always good to be honest and up front about your agenda.

I guess this makes me a racist too?

It does if you don't consider the fact that blacks and minorities get incarcerated for stuff that whites are let go.........of course you won't believe that. You like to point out that there's more blacks in prison because you probably are racist.


On Sunday, the Washington Post featured an essay by two experts, Marc Mauer, executive director of The Sentencing Project, and David Cole, a Georgetown law professor, who in "Five Myths about Americans in Prison" examined the role of race in incarceration.

These men show that not only are people of color stopped more frequently by police, their communities, particularly with anti-drug efforts, receive far more attention from police. And black men are often charged and prosecuted differently than their White counterparts.


They point out that although Whites and African Americans use and sell drugs at about the same rates, Black men in 2003 were almost 12 times as likely to go to prison as White men. Although Black people are 12 percent of the population and 14 percent of drug users, according to Mauer and Cole, they comprise 34 percent of those arrested for drug offenses and 45 percent of those incarcerated in state prisons for such offenses.

Both men attribute disparities in incarceration rates in part to the way urban Black communities are policed.

"Police find drugs where they look for them," they wrote. "Inner-city, open-air drug markets are easier to bust than those that operate out of suburban basements. And numerous studies show that minorities are stopped by police more often than Whites."
The Reasons Why So Many Black People Are in Prison Go Well Beyond Profiling Keith Rushing

Damn, dude. You're the poster boy for denial. You know, the truth doesn't change by repeating over and over what you wish it would be. I think the FBI statistics are more reliable and accurate than the opinion of a liberal blogger from the Huffington Post, but feel free to continue to live in denial. It only makes you look like an idiot even more than you already did.

Just as I predicted, you won't believe the truth and continue to hold on to your beliefs and information from Faux News.....and you have the nerve to question Huff Post....they haven't been in the news like Faux News due to their constant lying and making up shit. The one living in denial is you....and sure, that proves you are racist. Only an ignoramus would claim that everyone is lying except for Faux News......

Why don't you try to educate yourself and research the subject so you won't continue to make stupid assumptions, that is, if you want to get rid of your racist attitude.

• African Americans now constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population
• African Americans are incarcerated at nearly six times the rate of whites
• Together, African American and Hispanics comprised 58% of all prisoners in 2008, even though African Americans and Hispanics make up approximately one quarter of the US population
• According to Unlocking America, if African American and Hispanics were incarcerated at the same rates of whites, today's prison and jail populations would decline by approximately 50%
• Criminal Justice Fact Sheet NAACP

The nation’s war on drugs unfairly targets African Americans, who are far more likely to be imprisoned for drug offenses than whites even though far more whites use illegal drugs than blacks, according to a report by the advocacy group Human Rights Watch.
More Whites Use Drugs More Blacks Imprisoned The Black Health Zone

We found that African Americans, especially younger black men, were far more likely than whites to report being treated unfairly by the police because of their race. In fact, a recent Gallup Pollfound that one of every four black men under age 35 said that the police have treated them unfairly during the last 30 days. Little has changed since our survey. And these contacts do not have to be personal. In a recent study we conducted with Jeffery Mondak, we found that the distrust felt by many blacks is compounded by their vicarious experiences. Many of their black acquaintances have also had similar negative encounters with the law.
White people believe the justice system is color blind. Black people really don t. - The Washington Post


Stanford research examines whites perception of blacks and crime

 

[prison/con.net]

when you, as a group, COMMIT more crimes, of COURSE you get imprisoned more. Sheesh. that's just simple math.

 

[S.J.]

It proves that blacks commit far more violent crimes than whites.

Since you never provided the source for the data it does nothing of the sort.

But great job on exposing yourself as a racist.

Always good to be honest and up front about your agenda.

I guess this makes me a racist too?

It does if you don't consider the fact that blacks and minorities get incarcerated for stuff that whites are let go.........of course you won't believe that. You like to point out that there's more blacks in prison because you probably are racist.


On Sunday, the Washington Post featured an essay by two experts, Marc Mauer, executive director of The Sentencing Project, and David Cole, a Georgetown law professor, who in "Five Myths about Americans in Prison" examined the role of race in incarceration.

These men show that not only are people of color stopped more frequently by police, their communities, particularly with anti-drug efforts, receive far more attention from police. And black men are often charged and prosecuted differently than their White counterparts.


They point out that although Whites and African Americans use and sell drugs at about the same rates, Black men in 2003 were almost 12 times as likely to go to prison as White men. Although Black people are 12 percent of the population and 14 percent of drug users, according to Mauer and Cole, they comprise 34 percent of those arrested for drug offenses and 45 percent of those incarcerated in state prisons for such offenses.

Both men attribute disparities in incarceration rates in part to the way urban Black communities are policed.

"Police find drugs where they look for them," they wrote. "Inner-city, open-air drug markets are easier to bust than those that operate out of suburban basements. And numerous studies show that minorities are stopped by police more often than Whites."
The Reasons Why So Many Black People Are in Prison Go Well Beyond Profiling Keith Rushing

Damn, dude. You're the poster boy for denial. You know, the truth doesn't change by repeating over and over what you wish it would be. I think the FBI statistics are more reliable and accurate than the opinion of a liberal blogger from the Huffington Post, but feel free to continue to live in denial. It only makes you look like an idiot even more than you already did.

Just as I predicted, you won't believe the truth and continue to hold on to your beliefs and information from Faux News.....and you have the nerve to question Huff Post....they haven't been in the news like Faux News due to their constant lying and making up shit. The one living in denial is you....and sure, that proves you are racist. Only an ignoramus would claim that everyone is lying except for Faux News......

Why don't you try to educate yourself and research the subject so you won't continue to make stupid assumptions, that is, if you want to get rid of your racist attitude.

• African Americans now constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population
• African Americans are incarcerated at nearly six times the rate of whites
• Together, African American and Hispanics comprised 58% of all prisoners in 2008, even though African Americans and Hispanics make up approximately one quarter of the US population
• According to Unlocking America, if African American and Hispanics were incarcerated at the same rates of whites, today's prison and jail populations would decline by approximately 50%
• Criminal Justice Fact Sheet NAACP

The nation’s war on drugs unfairly targets African Americans, who are far more likely to be imprisoned for drug offenses than whites even though far more whites use illegal drugs than blacks, according to a report by the advocacy group Human Rights Watch.
More Whites Use Drugs More Blacks Imprisoned The Black Health Zone

We found that African Americans, especially younger black men, were far more likely than whites to report being treated unfairly by the police because of their race. In fact, a recent Gallup Pollfound that one of every four black men under age 35 said that the police have treated them unfairly during the last 30 days. Little has changed since our survey. And these contacts do not have to be personal. In a recent study we conducted with Jeffery Mondak, we found that the distrust felt by many blacks is compounded by their vicarious experiences. Many of their black acquaintances have also had similar negative encounters with the law.
White people believe the justice system is color blind. Black people really don t. - The Washington Post


Stanford research examines whites perception of blacks and crime

Yeah, I'm sure Huff Post is more accurate than the Bureau of Justice and the Justice Department. Damn, you're stupid.

 

[2aguy]

Well...according to research by the Washington Post, cops kill more whites....just posted that thread today...look it up...that should show that your thread is stupid....thanks for trying though.....

 

[Steinlight]

It proves that blacks commit far more violent crimes than whites.

Since you never provided the source for the data it does nothing of the sort.

But great job on exposing yourself as a racist.

Always good to be honest and up front about your agenda.

I guess this makes me a racist too?

It does if you don't consider the fact that blacks and minorities get incarcerated for stuff that whites are let go.........of course you won't believe that. You like to point out that there's more blacks in prison because you probably are racist.


On Sunday, the Washington Post featured an essay by two experts, Marc Mauer, executive director of The Sentencing Project, and David Cole, a Georgetown law professor, who in "Five Myths about Americans in Prison" examined the role of race in incarceration.

These men show that not only are people of color stopped more frequently by police, their communities, particularly with anti-drug efforts, receive far more attention from police. And black men are often charged and prosecuted differently than their White counterparts.


They point out that although Whites and African Americans use and sell drugs at about the same rates, Black men in 2003 were almost 12 times as likely to go to prison as White men. Although Black people are 12 percent of the population and 14 percent of drug users, according to Mauer and Cole, they comprise 34 percent of those arrested for drug offenses and 45 percent of those incarcerated in state prisons for such offenses.

Both men attribute disparities in incarceration rates in part to the way urban Black communities are policed.

"Police find drugs where they look for them," they wrote. "Inner-city, open-air drug markets are easier to bust than those that operate out of suburban basements. And numerous studies show that minorities are stopped by police more often than Whites."
The Reasons Why So Many Black People Are in Prison Go Well Beyond Profiling Keith Rushing

Damn, dude. You're the poster boy for denial. You know, the truth doesn't change by repeating over and over what you wish it would be. I think the FBI statistics are more reliable and accurate than the opinion of a liberal blogger from the Huffington Post, but feel free to continue to live in denial. It only makes you look like an idiot even more than you already did.

Just as I predicted, you won't believe the truth and continue to hold on to your beliefs and information from Faux News.....and you have the nerve to question Huff Post....they haven't been in the news like Faux News due to their constant lying and making up shit. The one living in denial is you....and sure, that proves you are racist. Only an ignoramus would claim that everyone is lying except for Faux News......

Why don't you try to educate yourself and research the subject so you won't continue to make stupid assumptions, that is, if you want to get rid of your racist attitude.

• African Americans now constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population
• African Americans are incarcerated at nearly six times the rate of whites
• Together, African American and Hispanics comprised 58% of all prisoners in 2008, even though African Americans and Hispanics make up approximately one quarter of the US population
• According to Unlocking America, if African American and Hispanics were incarcerated at the same rates of whites, today's prison and jail populations would decline by approximately 50%
• Criminal Justice Fact Sheet NAACP

The nation’s war on drugs unfairly targets African Americans, who are far more likely to be imprisoned for drug offenses than whites even though far more whites use illegal drugs than blacks, according to a report by the advocacy group Human Rights Watch.
More Whites Use Drugs More Blacks Imprisoned The Black Health Zone

We found that African Americans, especially younger black men, were far more likely than whites to report being treated unfairly by the police because of their race. In fact, a recent Gallup Pollfound that one of every four black men under age 35 said that the police have treated them unfairly during the last 30 days. Little has changed since our survey. And these contacts do not have to be personal. In a recent study we conducted with Jeffery Mondak, we found that the distrust felt by many blacks is compounded by their vicarious experiences. Many of their black acquaintances have also had similar negative encounters with the law.
White people believe the justice system is color blind. Black people really don t. - The Washington Post


Stanford research examines whites perception of blacks and crime

Not only treated unfairly by cops, but killed by white hispanic neighborhood watch men. Violence is inflicted on black bodies by cops and non-cops alike. Racism is no doubt alive today in America.

 

[MarcATL]

It proves nothing. Different cops. You don't know that the ones in the case of the black guy would not have reacted the same way if he would have been white. Same thing with the first encounter. Try again.

This is why you are nothing but a wilfully ignorant fool, most likely racist one at that. You PRETEND that discrimination does not exist. There are millions and millions of RW Americans just like you with the same mindset. That's one of the main problems today.

Carry on.

 

[MarcATL]

I think it's bullshit the cops reacted the way they did to the black guy open carrying the AR.
But until the black community shows they can do this without being a threat you can expect more of the same.

Ah yes, blame the victim.

 

[MarcATL]

Why do the cops react differently to a white person open-carrying an AR15, but go ballistic when a black person is doing the same thing?

And many want to claim that there is no discrimination? Hmmmm....

This doesn't surprise me. Actually, I'm surprised this hasn't been tested earlier.....except for the black test subjects REALLY putting their lives in danger.

To test this could land the tester in a morgue.

Not very encouraging.

 

[MarcATL]

It's not racist to use caution when dealing with the 13% of the population who commit 50% of the violent crime.

So basically, it doesn't matter what we do. We're going to be judged by the color of our skin and not the content of our character. And you couldn't be more happier about it.

I get it.

 

[MarcATL]

It proves nothing. Different cops. You don't know that the ones in the case of the black guy would not have reacted the same way if he would have been white. Same thing with the first encounter. Try again.

What a coincidence.......all the cops that come across blacks just happen to be the racist cops.......you're too funny.

Where's you evidence that they're racist?

He's legally carrying an AR-15.....so why do they act like he just shot people in a theatre? They didn't react when the guy was white.....you claim it was different cops, but we've had too many incidents where blacks are being killed by cops for no reason. Why do you think?

As I said earlier..I dont like that the cops acted the way they did.
But you have to take into account the crime rate of blacks in general.
In my mind I hope blacks can open carry without this kind of reaction but they'll have to prove they aren't a threat.
Unfortunately they havent proved that yet.

There's that color of your skin vs content of your character thing again. Right through the door it goes.

 

[MarcATL]

blacks are 10 times more likely per capita to use the ar-15. Blacks commit half the murder in this country and only make up 13% of the population.

How hard is this to understand?

I bet you are a self-proclaimed "constitutionist" aren't you?

 

[Esmeralda]

when you, as a group, COMMIT more crimes, of COURSE you get imprisoned more. Sheesh. that's just simple math.

You ignore anything but what you see on the surface. According to Mertex's post:

"The nation’s war on drugs unfairly targets African Americans, who are far more likely to be imprisoned for drug offenses than whites even though far more whites use illegal drugs than blacks, according to a report by the advocacy group Human Rights Watch.
More Whites Use Drugs More Blacks Imprisoned The Black Health Zone"
More blacks are in jail because more blacks are targeted for offenses.

White people actually use illegal drugs more than blacks, but blacks are incarcerated for that offense far more often than whites.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Why do the cops react differently to a white person open-carrying an AR15, but go ballistic when a black person is doing the same thing?

And many want to claim that there is no discrimination? Hmmmm....

I'd be much more on-edge around the white guy suspecting he's a militia type than the black guy probably just making a point.

 

[MarcATL]

Thanks for posting this OP. Great thread.

 

[rightwinger]

More blacks exercising their second amendment rights

Imagine the outrage from conservatives if he was carrying an AR-15

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I think it's bullshit the cops reacted the way they did to the black guy open carrying the AR.
But until the black community shows they can do this without being a threat you can expect more of the same.

Ah yes, blame the victim.

I know it's hard to accept the truth at times...

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

It proves nothing. Different cops. You don't know that the ones in the case of the black guy would not have reacted the same way if he would have been white. Same thing with the first encounter. Try again.

What a coincidence.......all the cops that come across blacks just happen to be the racist cops.......you're too funny.

Where's you evidence that they're racist?

He's legally carrying an AR-15.....so why do they act like he just shot people in a theatre? They didn't react when the guy was white.....you claim it was different cops, but we've had too many incidents where blacks are being killed by cops for no reason. Why do you think?

As I said earlier..I dont like that the cops acted the way they did.
But you have to take into account the crime rate of blacks in general.
In my mind I hope blacks can open carry without this kind of reaction but they'll have to prove they aren't a threat.
Unfortunately they havent proved that yet.

There's that color of your skin vs content of your character thing again. Right through the door it goes.

Unfortunately the content of character in a large portion of the black community is lacking.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I love this self fulfilling strategy they have going. Harass blacks more because of the crime rate, which results in a higher number of blacks being jailed. The forget you advocate going after blacks more harshly and point at the enivitable rise in crime stats from the one group you support harassing.

Its a perfect circle of bullshit.

If the police decided tomorrow to focus on red heads. The crime rates for red heads would go up lol. Then this same bunch would say "hey its only fair since the red head crime rate is high"

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I love this self fulfilling strategy they have going. Harass blacks more because of the crime rate, which results in a higher number of blacks being jailed. The forget you advocate going after blacks more harshly and point at the enivitable rise in crime stats from the one group you support harassing.

Its a perfect circle of bullshit.

If the police decided tomorrow to focus on red heads. The crime rates for red heads would go up lol. Then this same bunch would say "hey its only fair since the red head crime rate is high"

If they're not doing anything wrong how are they getting arrested?