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Why Benghazi Matters

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AC-130U Gunship was on-scene in Benghazi, Obama Admin refused to let it fire​




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AC-130U Gunship was on-scene in Benghazi, Obama Admin refused to let it fire « Bob Owens
Oct• 26•12


This is treason.

A much more detailed confirmation from a Delta operator:

Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.

One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not “paint” a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.

Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.

The designator will not work without the plane overhead.


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This may be the reason General Carter Ham was relieved of duty. He disobeyed presidential orders and sent assistance to those Americans in trouble.
 

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Interesting but i think ill wait for more info.
 

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If anyone has a non-right wing news source to back up any of these claims I would be interested in seeing it. At the moment all I can find is an all out right wing news blast from about 8 hours ago.
 

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If anyone has a non-right wing news source to back up any of these claims I would be interested in seeing it. At the moment all I can find is an all out right wing news blast from about 8 hours ago.

Agreed not even fox is running this.
 

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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.
 

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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.

So another lie basically which the right is trying to spin? This doesn't shock me.....
 

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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.

No matter how many sources are linked to, the liberals will not believe that Obama knew anything about anything. They believe other people are running things without Obama's input or knowledge. Well, that is if whatever happens is bad. If it's good, then Obama was totally engaged from the start.
 

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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.

That goes nowhere near what the OP is stating. Did you not read the two or are you intentionally trying to mislead?
 

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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.

No matter how many sources are linked to, the liberals will not believe that Obama knew anything about anything. They believe other people are running things without Obama's input or knowledge. Well, that is if whatever happens is bad. If it's good, then Obama was totally engaged from the start.

So we have outrage over 4 dead but its perfectly fine Bush knew 9/11 was coming and thousands died then but that is OK? Right wingers better get there shit together.
 
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Yeah, good idea to fire huge heavy weapons at the CIA spy headquarters in Benghazi, assuring the death of everyone in the building and the surrounding area, probably hundreds of deaths! Republican hype and overkill at it's finest!
 

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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.

No matter how many sources are linked to, the liberals will not believe that Obama knew anything about anything. They believe other people are running things without Obama's input or knowledge. Well, that is if whatever happens is bad. If it's good, then Obama was totally engaged from the start.

So are you saying you have an independent source to back up what the OP is claiming?
 

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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.

That goes nowhere near what the OP is stating. Did you not read the two or are you intentionally trying to mislead?


No, I'm not, prove the OP wrong? Good luck

So I proved they had planes an hour away? Easily could have flown in and rescued the ambassador, so why didnt they?
 

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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.

No matter how many sources are linked to, the liberals will not believe that Obama knew anything about anything. They believe other people are running things without Obama's input or knowledge. Well, that is if whatever happens is bad. If it's good, then Obama was totally engaged from the start.

So we have outrage over 4 dead but its perfectly fine Bush knew 9/11 was coming and thousands died then but that is OK? Right wingers better get there shit together.


OMG a truther....you are a left wing kook........WOW.....I guess we didnt land on the moon? Do you have your tinfoil hat made?

 
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Could U.S. military have helped during Libya attack? - CBS News

You find a way to make this happen," Berntsen says. "There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died."

The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details. Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay. Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships, which the sources say can be extremely effective in flying in and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.

No matter how many sources are linked to, the liberals will not believe that Obama knew anything about anything. They believe other people are running things without Obama's input or knowledge. Well, that is if whatever happens is bad. If it's good, then Obama was totally engaged from the start.

I don't think Obama knew nothing but I think the assessments made by those under him and ultimately by him were based on readiness, the possibilities of mass deaths if we took action, how targeted and effective retaliation could have been and much more. Most scenarios suggested by rw'ers who are after-the-fact hyperventilating arm chair quarter backs would have been more than likely totally disastrous and would have killed possibly hundreds of people. We had a covert spy operation going on there and it is also a consideration that because it really wasn't an embassy, an attack by us killing Libyans and others there would be construed as an act of war. No one even begins to think about the possibilites and possible outcomes and perceptions of our actions.
 

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Yes lets go guns blazing into a new country which we helped overthrow the dictator and give the terror groups the kind of power that they need to re-take power. I realize Republicans like there Guns but Cmon.
 

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Why don't we wait for further evidence people. It does no good to sit here and act like conspiracy nuts insulting each other.
 

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Crazy monkey the voice of reason. Now I have seen everything. Thanks man. Sincerely.
 

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Obama didn't refuse anything. If you don't have a clue how ground operations work keep quiet.
 

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Obama didn't refuse anything. If you don't have a clue how ground operations work keep quiet.


yeah enlighten us....we have an embassy being attacked an do ZERO....sure...then we blame it on a video.....Jesus you people are stupid
 

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I doubt Ambassador Stevens would have appreciated a bunch of innocent civilians being slaughtered to kill a few terrorists. I'll wait for the final investigative report.
 

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