Why Assume He Killed Himself?

[Dante]

The lifetime soldier suddenly decided to attack his own country. I would say that prior commitment went out the window.

I don't believe the Tesla suicide guy attacked the USA. And if he left messages saying that was his thing -- I'd seek to look at his mental.emotional state months prior.

I don't see that event in Vegas as a terrorist attack. Using a broad scared-little-people definition maybe, but...

 

[Dante]

As do most military members/veterans who kill themselves.

May people who kill themselves have issues far beyond things like their prior or even current military service. I've known far too many criminal types and emotional fuck ups and other losers who have joined the military -- probably as a way of mistakenly believing the military will help them run away from themselves and their situations in life.

While I was friends with the ma who brought the ptsd stuff into the VA, I am at odds with his views on veterans.

I've known and seen vets on drugs and booze and ... who try and blame it all on their service. I've never bought into that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I don't believe the Tesla suicide guy attacked the USA.

It was what he did, nonetheless. His own country and his own countrymen.

 

[Dante]

Apparently he was also MAGA, through and through.

Is this true and how do you believe it played into his state of mind?

 

[marvin martian]

Actually, I've lost nothing

projecting how Trump made you all feel you lost something back in 2020, when in reality he was teh only loser who actually lost anything.

tying your ego and sense of self worth to a leader?

but more importantly you've won zilch. You poor tired old fool. Cults always make people feel like they have accomplished things

sad,

^^^The guy who believes Trump carjacked the Secret Service on 1/6 thinks I'm in a cult. LOL!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Is this true and how do you believe it played into his state of mind?

No idea. Maybe he just wanted to make news.

 

[pknopp]

May people who kill themselves have issues far beyond things like their prior or even current military service. I've known far too many criminal types and emotional fuck ups and other losers who have joined the military -- probably as a way of mistakenly believing the military will help them run away from themselves and their situations in life.

While I was friends with the ma who brought the ptsd stuff into the VA, I am at odds with his views on veterans.

I've known and seen vets on drugs and booze and ... who try and blame it all on their service. I've never bought into that.

It's really irrelevant what you bought into.

 

[Dante]

On live TV, I listened to the FBI itself make definitive states re the Vegas and NOLA events. I am not at all confused.

You yourself are acting as if preliminary and early reports are definitive. You are just one more armchair-exert-on-everything here @ usmb

 

[whitehall]

My guess is that he had time to say "oh shit" when he realized he connected the wrong wire.

 

[marvin martian]

Apparently he was also MAGA, through and through.

^^^Imagine being so stupid and brainwashed, you believe a Trump supporter bombed a Trump hotel.

Your cult has made you embarrassingly stupid.

 

[Rocko]

I’m not assuming anything. Suicide was what was reported.

 

[Dante]

It was what he did, nonetheless. His own country and his own countrymen.

Some guy drove up to a Hotel/Casino(?) and blew himself up? Experts right now are saying that he could've done more damage but didn't, for whatever reason(s).

This wasn't what you portray it as. Even if the guy left a political statement, his state of mind and recent past is more relevant.

People often do things and use bs reasonings ..

People are making it all out to be so much more than it is

Weak, pathetic, troubled Americans.

Our forebears must be rolling over in their graves on this

 

[Dante]

^^^The guy who believes Trump carjacked the Secret Service on 1/6 thinks I'm in a cult. LOL!

Why do you make shit like this up?

And btw, the real story was that Trump supposedly attempted to get the driver to change course by attempting to grab the wheel.

You live in a world of stereotypes, and a world filled with silly partisan-memes-masquerading as news-of-the-day.

 

[Dante]

No idea. Maybe he just wanted to make news.

And that would make his service etc totally irrelevant.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This wasn't what you portray it as.

I didn't "portray" anything.

He blew up a bomb in his own country and injured his own countrymen. After serving his country.

These are facts. I am not saying his intent was to harm his own country. I am highlighting the deleterious actions of a troubled mind. How his insanity drove him to injure his own countrymen, after years of serving an oath to protect his country.

Same goes for the NOLA bomber. We have a good grasp of why that happened.

This guy, not so much.

 

[Dante]

It's really irrelevant what you bought into.

troll elsewhere with somebody else

bye

 

[The Duke]

You think sophomore level.psychology is gaslighting, because you don't understand it.

Leftist Prog Fucktard ROE:

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1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.

2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect.

3. Ignore any facts presented.

3a. Play dumb and keep others wasting their time trying to enlighten you.

4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.

5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age.

6. Employ misdirection.

6a. smear people.

6b. attack religion.

6c. attack your rationality.

7. Lie, make false assumptions.

8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card.

9. Play gay/lesbian card.

10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card.

11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?

12. Deny constantly.

13. Reword and repeat.

14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about.

15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.

16. Russia.

17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity/OAN.

18. You can’t read.

19. Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump.

20. What about...

 

[pknopp]

troll elsewhere with somebody else

bye

The damage done to those returning from war is well documented whether you want to believe it or not.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.

You, crybaby, making up fantasies and refusing to accept the basic facts presented.

For exactly the reason I already described.

I can't dumb this down any further for you.

 

[Dante]

I didn't "portray" anything.

He blew up a bomb in his own country and injured his own countrymen. After serving his country.

These are facts. I am not saying his intent was to harm his own country. I am highlighting the deleterious actions of a troubled mind. How his insanity drove him to injure his own countrymen, after years of serving an oath to protect his country.

I heard he was still "serving his country" so...

You just described Almost Every single criminal act committed in America

People with military backgrounds like the Vegas Tesla guy?

Lee Harvey Oswald

Steve Flemmi (White Bulger pal)

Tm McVeigh and his accomplices

Many criminals and vile characters since America's founding