Why are we talking about IVF?

[Slade3200]

Well actually people have been trying to get roe overturned long before trump was president

Correct he believes it should be left to the states to regulate. With that said he has not said the federal abortion law should be revoked.

Of course people have been trying. Trump appointed judges that would do it and when they did he took credit for it happening. Now he is pretending to be a champion for women’s rights… can’t have it that way. He is responsible for the mess

 

[struth]

Do you know why Alabama tried to make IVF illegal? Because they equate it to abortion. Conrad up on it if you still dont understand the debate

Haha you are clueless. IVF has nothing to do with abortion and alabama didn’t try to make it illegal.

The court ruled that stored embryos have the same legal protections as children under their wrongful death a statue.

Then the gop lead general assembly and a gop Gov signed into law a bill protecting IVF clinics from any legal consequences because of that ruling. Fixing what the court said was a problem

You are clueless

 

[struth]

So as a supporter of abortion and women’s right why would you allow states to take those right s away from women?

Would you be cool with states going back to segregation? Slavery?

Abortion isn’t a right, under the federal constitution. It’s only a right if the states make it one. I personally don’t think it needs to be treated any differently then any other medical procedure. I am always for safe, effective regulations of the medical industry to protect all patients, including women

 

[Unkotare]

But the democrats want to mandate that insurance cover the cost of abortions......

One supports life.

One supports death.

Says it all.

 

[Slade3200]

Haha you are clueless. IVF has nothing to do with abortion and alabama didn’t try to make it illegal.

The court ruled that stored embryos have the same legal protections as children under their wrongful death a statue.

Then the gop lead general assembly and a gop Gov signed into law a bill protecting IVF clinics from any legal consequences because of that ruling. Fixing what the court said was a problem

You are clueless

Yup, it was a close call and good save by the governor. The movement to stop IVF is still there though. People believe embryos are baby’s and disposing of them is murder. So yes, it is very related to abortion and the court showed that. All part of the can of worms Trump opened and is not hypocritically trying to clean up

 

[Slade3200]

Abortion isn’t a right, under the federal constitution

It’s a god given right to many women. The choice to do what they want with their own body…. It’s the state trying to take that right away by making abortion and other acts illegal.

 

[d0gbreath]

I'm not going to mention that IVF is man interfering with God's will, because I don't believe that. I'll let someone else say it.

 

[Slade3200]

Abortion isn’t a right, under the federal constitution. It’s only a right if the states make it one. I personally don’t think it needs to be treated any differently then any other medical procedure. I am always for safe, effective regulations of the medical industry to protect all patients, including women

I’m fine with safety regulations as well. But not banning it all together.

Also you have your right backwards. Laws to tell us what we can do they tell us what we can’t do. The exception is when we are under arrest

 

[Rambunctious]

According to religious anti-abortion zealots IVF should be illegal

And you can prove that?...

 

[struth]

Yup, it was a close call and good save by the governor. The movement to stop IVF is still there though. People believe embryos are baby’s and disposing of them is murder. So yes, it is very related to abortion and the court showed that. All part of the can of worms Trump opened and is not hypocritically trying to clean up

It wasn’t a close call at all, it passed the gop lead general assembly and was signed into law quickly after the courts ruling

You were clueless to what happened.

Another low informed dembot exposed again

 

[Lesh]

Well actually people have been trying to get roe overturned long before trump was president

Correct he believes it should be left to the states to regulate. With that said he has not said the federal abortion law should be revoked.

But Trump achieved it… by appointing those three Justices

 

[struth]

But Trump achieved it… by appointing those three Justices

Ok.

 

[struth]

I'm not going to mention that IVF is man interfering with God's will, because I don't believe that. I'll let someone else say it.

Huh? What a weird post.

 

[d0gbreath]

Huh? What a weird post.

It was an old argument back when test tube babies were first invented.

 

[otto105]

And you can prove that?...

See Alabama

 

[struth]

See Alabama

What about it??

 

[Lesh]

What about it??

Don’t be so blatant about your ignorance

How the Alabama IVF Ruling Is Connected to Upcoming Supreme Court Cases on Abortion

The conservative judges in the Alabama in vitro fertilization (IVF) ruling, Idaho v. United States, and Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) all issued decisions that seemingly supported their personal and political ideology over the rule of law, further...

www.americanprogress.org

 

[struth]

Don’t be so blatant about your ignorance

Tell us…

 

[Lesh]

Tell us…

Done. Look up stupid

 

[struth]

Done. Look up stupid

I did. I have no clue what you are talking about. IVF Is perfectly legal in Alabama. The GOP general assembly and Gov made sure of that.