Why are we so afraid to admit the obvious?

[jc456]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

that isn't what he said. he said the fake news is the enemy of the people. You should listen better. but we know who you are, you hate facts.

yes, you really should.

I am glad i do.

 

[bendog]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

Well it's now "OK" to heckle republicans in restaurants, and even knock the take out container from McConnell's hands. Imo, the gop brought this on themselves. Not only for supporting Trump's rally cries of violence against protestors, but also for not calling Trump out on birtherism. They cannot acquiesce to calling a president illegitmate, and then find something wrong with the worm turns on them.

And it's not going to end so long as Trump is potus.

Actually none of that is okay.

But none of it is remotely close to saying you’ll pay an assauter’s legal bills if he attacks someone either.

no sense of humor are the leftists. too fking funny.

You’re living proof the world can take a joke

He can't read, nor have I detected humor

 

[BlindBoo]

Factually incorrect. I seem to have missed any Dem Presidential Nominee volunteering to pay the legal bills for those committing assault at their rallies.

Your mileage may vary

That was a joke. Obviously Leftists don't have a sense of humor. Did you miss HRC calling half the country a basket of deplorables. LOL. Or Maxine Waters or Eric Holder advocating direct violence and not apoligizing for it?

Half of Donny's supporters not half the country. And she was specific, the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic are the one she called deplorable.

Subjective. Who is "racist" who is "sexist". What is Islamaphobia? Some dumbass Leftist definition. Phobia means FEAR. Like what you have with Trump. I am certainly not scared of radical Islam but I dislike it. Would you define me as "Islamaphobic"? Do tell?.

Of course all those terms are subjective, look at the crowd she was speaking to. So is the term deplorable. It seems to be a trigger of some kind, somehow, for some reason.

I can only give you my subjective opinion of what an Isalmaphobic. But what the point in that?

The point is labeling people as deplorable because they disagree with you politically is not optimal when running for office.

I think Trumpybear has said much worse about his political opposition.

 

[Rocko]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
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yes

 

[Mac1958]

Well, much appreciation to all those who jumped right in to illustrate the point of the thread.

"Huh? My side does something wrong? No way! Never! I don't see it! You can't prove it!

"But those OTHER guys, HERE'S what THEY do wrong...."


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[Rocko]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

Because one side is practicing violence and only condemns one side.....the other side (mine) condemns violence from anyone and does not promote it. so to fix the problem, you need to stop promoting violence and start condemning anyone who does it.....it's pretty clear who needs to do that (not my side, they already do that)

Both sides promote violence, so you have failed to see the truth.

I reject your moral equivalence

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That was a joke. Obviously Leftists don't have a sense of humor. Did you miss HRC calling half the country a basket of deplorables. LOL. Or Maxine Waters or Eric Holder advocating direct violence and not apoligizing for it?

Half of Donny's supporters not half the country. And she was specific, the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic are the one she called deplorable.

Subjective. Who is "racist" who is "sexist". What is Islamaphobia? Some dumbass Leftist definition. Phobia means FEAR. Like what you have with Trump. I am certainly not scared of radical Islam but I dislike it. Would you define me as "Islamaphobic"? Do tell?.

Of course all those terms are subjective, look at the crowd she was speaking to. So is the term deplorable. It seems to be a trigger of some kind, somehow, for some reason.

I can only give you my subjective opinion of what an Isalmaphobic. But what the point in that?

The point is labeling people as deplorable because they disagree with you politically is not optimal when running for office.

I think Trumpybear has said much worse about his political opposition.

Not about the prospective voters. Apples and oranges.

 

[there4eyeM]

No thinking person is at the point of violent action vis-a-vis the present state of domestic politics. It is facile, it is childish, it is ridiculous, it is self-re-enforcing, it is boring, but no one with a mind considers physical confrontation an option in the current situation.

 

[BlindBoo]

Half of Donny's supporters not half the country. And she was specific, the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic are the one she called deplorable.

Subjective. Who is "racist" who is "sexist". What is Islamaphobia? Some dumbass Leftist definition. Phobia means FEAR. Like what you have with Trump. I am certainly not scared of radical Islam but I dislike it. Would you define me as "Islamaphobic"? Do tell?.

Of course all those terms are subjective, look at the crowd she was speaking to. So is the term deplorable. It seems to be a trigger of some kind, somehow, for some reason.

I can only give you my subjective opinion of what an Isalmaphobic. But what the point in that?

The point is labeling people as deplorable because they disagree with you politically is not optimal when running for office.

I think Trumpybear has said much worse about his political opposition.

Not about the prospective voters. Apples and oranges.

65 million voted Democrat in 2016. President "Corleone" calls Democrat Evil. Over half the voter in the country are in league with Evil. But you guys have "Deplorable" on your side to hold onto.

 

[bendog]

No thinking person is at the point of violent action vis-a-vis the present state of domestic politics. It is facile, it is childish, it is ridiculous, it is self-re-enforcing, it is boring, but no one with a mind considers physical confrontation an option in the current situation.

Six days ago, Cruz was laughing when someone chanted about O'Rourke Lock him up. Four days ago, Trump LED a chant at a rally referencing Soros "Lock him up." AFTER Soros was targeted with a bomb.
Donald Trump repeats "lock him up" chant about George Soros minutes after calling for unity around attempted bombings

why would anyone rationally be upset with Neilsen or McConnell being shouted out at restaurants or even having their food dumped?

Of course it's churlish behavior. But don't for a minute think the dems started this.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So are you. BTW, Let's see that list.

Sure...let’s see The list

Here you go, hacks

Left-wing violence in the Trump era - Conservapedia

 

[Mac1958]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

Do you really need a list of all the acts of violence committed by leftists against conservatives over the past couple of years? It's quite lengthy.

Congratuations on proving the OP's point. You are a perfect example of the problem he is talking about.

So are you. BTW, Let's see that list.

Here you go, hack

Left-wing violence in the Trump era - Conservapedia

Pretty funny the way so many have jumped in to prove my point for me, y'know?


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[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

Do you really need a list of all the acts of violence committed by leftists against conservatives over the past couple of years? It's quite lengthy.

Congratuations on proving the OP's point. You are a perfect example of the problem he is talking about.

So are you. BTW, Let's see that list.

Here you go, hack

Left-wing violence in the Trump era - Conservapedia

Pretty funny the way so many have jumped in to prove my point for me, y'know?


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They're tools

 

[Vastator]

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
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Nothing. The obvious is that many are through compromising. That’s what got us here...

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

So are you. BTW, Let's see that list.

Sure...let’s see The list

Here you go, hacks

Left-wing violence in the Trump era - Conservapedia

With a name like 'Conservapedia', I'm sure this source is completely unbiased and not hacky at all... But, I'll bite:

- Unindicted Obamagate co-conspirator Loretta Lynch calls for blood and death in the streets.[35]
- New York Times sponsored a Shakespeare in Park production that features the bloody assassination of the lead character made up in the likeness of President Trump.[50]
- Rick Wilson, a RINO, establishment consultant and a Daily Beast columnist who earlier called Donald Trump a "proto-fascist," called for the lynching of "fascists."[87]

Yep, politically biased, and mostly consists of threats of violence from the left. In contrast, how many right-wing extremists have actually killed people for having different beliefs? Answer: a **** ton more than those on the left.

 

[Mac1958]

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?

Nothing. The obvious is that many are through compromising. That’s what got us here...

Yeah.
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[AzogtheDefiler]

Subjective. Who is "racist" who is "sexist". What is Islamaphobia? Some dumbass Leftist definition. Phobia means FEAR. Like what you have with Trump. I am certainly not scared of radical Islam but I dislike it. Would you define me as "Islamaphobic"? Do tell?.

Of course all those terms are subjective, look at the crowd she was speaking to. So is the term deplorable. It seems to be a trigger of some kind, somehow, for some reason.

I can only give you my subjective opinion of what an Isalmaphobic. But what the point in that?

The point is labeling people as deplorable because they disagree with you politically is not optimal when running for office.

I think Trumpybear has said much worse about his political opposition.

Not about the prospective voters. Apples and oranges.

65 million voted Democrat in 2016. President "Corleone" calls Democrat Evil. Over half the voter in the country are in league with Evil. But you guys have "Deplorable" on your side to hold onto.

And 63 million voted for DJT and he is not even a true Republican. Democrats aren't evil. Leftitsts are.

 

[bendog]

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

Do you really need a list of all the acts of violence committed by leftists against conservatives over the past couple of years? It's quite lengthy.

Congratuations on proving the OP's point. You are a perfect example of the problem he is talking about.

So are you. BTW, Let's see that list.

Here you go, hack

Left-wing violence in the Trump era - Conservapedia

Pretty funny the way so many have jumped in to prove my point for me, y'know?


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They're tools

No they just didn't let you get away with the sin of moderation towards the undefensible. You equated apples with oranges.

 

[DOTR]

And I will tell you something else..this violence is put up with in the states Demcorats run. The liberal states or cities. They arent rioting in Houston are they?

Harris County went for Hillary.

Not my point. So did Travis and El paso and Dallas counties. Generally large cities, especially those populated by illegals, will go Democrat.
The point is they seem decent enough to not riot in Republican states. In Washington and California of course they run rampant.

 

[DOTR]

Well, much appreciation to all those who jumped right in to illustrate the point of the thread.

"Huh? My side does something wrong? No way! Never! I don't see it! You can't prove it!

"But those OTHER guys, HERE'S what THEY do wrong...."


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Again you assume neither side is right. On what do you base that on? Did it ever cross your mind that there is a right and a wrong?