Why are Trump's tax returns so important again?

A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Just innuendo, is all they would have.
 
A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Then you knew the answer to your question before asking it?
 
A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Then you knew the answer to your question before asking it?
No, it was a sincere question. Obviously I knew it was largely political, but I thought they had some theory that connected his tax returns to Russia. Or something like that. That would make some sense.

Turns out it's pretty much what I thought it was. Maybe they'll find something important, who knows. If they don't, it won't be for a lack of trying.
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Fine by me. Audit all of the congress critters to make sure they're not cheating on their taxes. Did you think I'd be outraged at the idea?

I'm not in the least concerned about whether or not they are cheating on their taxes.

I want their tax returns from before they entered office when there were not millionaires and a couple years after when they were, and then they continue to add millions every year while being paid less than $200,000 a year. They have to maintain a home in Washington, one of the most expensive cities, plus one in their home district.

Now that is interesting!

Not really, but if that revs your engine, bully for you. Again, fine by me. Audit all of them. (By the way, Pelosi's money comes from the same place as Trump's...real estate investment.)
 
A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Then you knew the answer to your question before asking it?
No, it was a sincere question. Obviously I knew it was largely political, but I thought they had some theory that connected his tax returns to Russia. Or something like that. That would make some sense.

Turns out it's pretty much what I thought it was. Maybe they'll find something important, who knows. If they don't, it won't be for a lack of trying.
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Uh, no...it wasn't "pretty much what you thought".

Retiring as a Judge, Trump’s Sister Ends Court Inquiry Into Her Role in Tax Dodges

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
 
They never were important in my opinion no President or Presidential candidates tax returns are important I doubt few if any have based their vote on a candidates tax returns.
Tax returns after office are more likely to bust a president than before office. But either way unless someone is charged with a crime FIRST, it is none of our business

A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Mac, I would like you to watch this 5 minute clip please. I know, I know, it will turn your stomach to do it, but let me explain WHY I am requesting you do something that might make you slightly ill, lol.

You would THINK that the Republicans have enough red meat AFTER the collusion/delusion has basically fallen apart. You would also THINK, they would have learned their lesson from the Democrats about not trying to pursue questionable transgressions without absolute proof of said transgressions. Why in the world would they follow suit and possibly get egg all over their faces? Do they want to be seen as the RIGHTS Shiff, or Swawell?

I am posting this 5 minute clip for YOU, so as you can follow along with the rest of us, to discover IF the Republicans can deliver on what they claim happened. LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS CLOSELY! It lays out exactly what they intend to try and prove, and that is why I posted it for you, even if it might make you slightly ill as it is from a Fox show.

This is NOT what they think happened, this is what they are giving to the AG to prove, and they want indictments! Once you see this, you will be able to know if they are blowing smoke if it all goes away, or if there is actual meat on the political bones, and it won't take to long to discover. I personally think they have something, but that might be through a partisan lens.

Why?

Because I find it hard to believe that they would do the same thing to themselves that the Democrats did, when they don't have to.

So please Mac, take the 5 minutes so as you can help parse out when something comes to light, or nothing comes to light! Remember, listen CLOSELY to what he spells out. If you can't handle the visual, just close your eyes and listen to the audio. And thanks in advance!

 
A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Then you knew the answer to your question before asking it?
No, it was a sincere question. Obviously I knew it was largely political, but I thought they had some theory that connected his tax returns to Russia. Or something like that. That would make some sense.

Turns out it's pretty much what I thought it was. Maybe they'll find something important, who knows. If they don't, it won't be for a lack of trying.
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Uh, no...it wasn't "pretty much what you thought".

Retiring as a Judge, Trump’s Sister Ends Court Inquiry Into Her Role in Tax Dodges

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
Okay.

Would it be appropriate to assume then, that your only interest in this is confirming that the Rule of Law is being held to the highest standard, that we hold all elected officials to the same standard, that the honor & dignity of the presidency is maintained, and that all truth comes out, and that there is no partisan motivation here?
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A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Then you knew the answer to your question before asking it?
No, it was a sincere question. Obviously I knew it was largely political, but I thought they had some theory that connected his tax returns to Russia. Or something like that. That would make some sense.

Turns out it's pretty much what I thought it was. Maybe they'll find something important, who knows. If they don't, it won't be for a lack of trying.
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Uh, no...it wasn't "pretty much what you thought".

Retiring as a Judge, Trump’s Sister Ends Court Inquiry Into Her Role in Tax Dodges

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
Okay.

Would it be appropriate to assume then, that your only interest in this is confirming that the Rule of Law is being held to the highest standard, that we hold all elected officials to the same standard, that the honor & dignity of the presidency is maintained, and that all truth comes out, and that there is no partisan motivation here?
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One does not negate the other. There is enough smoke to investigate if there is a fire whether the motivation was partisan or not. Watergate was partisan until the crimes became too overwhelming to ignore.
 
Fair is fair. Every member of Congress, and every federal judge should disclose their tax returns.....

Oops...
 
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Then you knew the answer to your question before asking it?
No, it was a sincere question. Obviously I knew it was largely political, but I thought they had some theory that connected his tax returns to Russia. Or something like that. That would make some sense.

Turns out it's pretty much what I thought it was. Maybe they'll find something important, who knows. If they don't, it won't be for a lack of trying.
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Uh, no...it wasn't "pretty much what you thought".

Retiring as a Judge, Trump’s Sister Ends Court Inquiry Into Her Role in Tax Dodges

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
Okay.

Would it be appropriate to assume then, that your only interest in this is confirming that the Rule of Law is being held to the highest standard, that we hold all elected officials to the same standard, that the honor & dignity of the presidency is maintained, and that all truth comes out, and that there is no partisan motivation here?
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One does not negate the other. There is enough smoke to investigate if there is a fire whether the motivation was partisan or not. Watergate was partisan until the crimes became too overwhelming to ignore.
Great! Then I'm happy to wait until we know what actually happened.

Until then, this is just more silly partisan noise from both ends, as usual.
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They never were important in my opinion no President or Presidential candidates tax returns are important I doubt few if any have based their vote on a candidates tax returns.
Tax returns after office are more likely to bust a president than before office. But either way unless someone is charged with a crime FIRST, it is none of our business

A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Mac, I would like you to watch this 5 minute clip please. I know, I know, it will turn your stomach to do it, but let me explain WHY I am requesting you do something that might make you slightly ill, lol.

You would THINK that the Republicans have enough red meat AFTER the collusion/delusion has basically fallen apart. You would also THINK, they would have learned their lesson from the Democrats about not trying to pursue questionable transgressions without absolute proof of said transgressions. Why in the world would they follow suit and possibly get egg all over their faces? Do they want to be seen as the RIGHTS Shiff, or Swawell?

I am posting this 5 minute clip for YOU, so as you can follow along with the rest of us, to discover IF the Republicans can deliver on what they claim happened. LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS CLOSELY! It lays out exactly what they intend to try and prove, and that is why I posted it for you, even if it might make you slightly ill as it is from a Fox show.

This is NOT what they think happened, this is what they are giving to the AG to prove, and they want indictments! Once you see this, you will be able to know if they are blowing smoke if it all goes away, or if there is actual meat on the political bones, and it won't take to long to discover. I personally think they have something, but that might be through a partisan lens.

Why?

Because I find it hard to believe that they would do the same thing to themselves that the Democrats did, when they don't have to.

So please Mac, take the 5 minutes so as you can help parse out when something comes to light, or nothing comes to light! Remember, listen CLOSELY to what he spells out. If you can't handle the visual, just close your eyes and listen to the audio. And thanks in advance!


Okay, dammit, I watched the damn thing. And no, it wasn't easy. :laugh:

And I had actually seen most of that before, and I've listened to Hannity's show, which is all the same material.

Here's the deal: Whether it's Hannity or Limbaugh or Maddow or Matthews, I'm only getting one (1) side of the story. And that side is ALWAYS so clear cut and so well thought-out and so specific and so damning! And yet, once it's subjected to the light of day, somehow it begins to fade and unravel.

I'm not predicting anything. I'm happy to watch the partisans flail around and accuse and assume and guess. That's all they're capable of doing at this point. It's a sideshow, a joke. Then, when we actually get something that is verifiable and final, I'll believe it.
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A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Then you knew the answer to your question before asking it?
No, it was a sincere question. Obviously I knew it was largely political, but I thought they had some theory that connected his tax returns to Russia. Or something like that. That would make some sense.

Turns out it's pretty much what I thought it was. Maybe they'll find something important, who knows. If they don't, it won't be for a lack of trying.
.

Uh, no...it wasn't "pretty much what you thought".

Retiring as a Judge, Trump’s Sister Ends Court Inquiry Into Her Role in Tax Dodges

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
Okay.

Would it be appropriate to assume then, that your only interest in this is confirming that the Rule of Law is being held to the highest standard, that we hold all elected officials to the same standard, that the honor & dignity of the presidency is maintained, and that all truth comes out, and that there is no partisan motivation here?
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I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
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Then you knew the answer to your question before asking it?
No, it was a sincere question. Obviously I knew it was largely political, but I thought they had some theory that connected his tax returns to Russia. Or something like that. That would make some sense.

Turns out it's pretty much what I thought it was. Maybe they'll find something important, who knows. If they don't, it won't be for a lack of trying.
.

Uh, no...it wasn't "pretty much what you thought".

Retiring as a Judge, Trump’s Sister Ends Court Inquiry Into Her Role in Tax Dodges

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
Okay.

Would it be appropriate to assume then, that your only interest in this is confirming that the Rule of Law is being held to the highest standard, that we hold all elected officials to the same standard, that the honor & dignity of the presidency is maintained, and that all truth comes out, and that there is no partisan motivation here?
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One does not negate the other. There is enough smoke to investigate if there is a fire whether the motivation was partisan or not. Watergate was partisan until the crimes became too overwhelming to ignore.

I agree with Sea, although it was the Republicans who went to the oval office and told Nixon it was over, and he must resign for the good of the country.

Watergate? Yep, that is why you should look at post 186.
 
Let’s look at this-

A judicial panel began the review in response to four citizen complaints filed in October after The New York Times published a story alleging the president and his siblings evaded inheritance taxes.

The April 1 order said Barry’s voluntary Feb. 11 retirement ends the review stemming from claims based on the news article alleging that Barry may have committed misconduct relating to tax and financial transactions that occurred mostly in the 1980s and 1990s.
Maryanne Trump Barry, Donald Trump’s sister, retires as federal judge amid ethics complaints


Once again, nothing proven. We can just imagine who filed those complaints and whether there was a real basis for them.
And she is 82.
 
They are out to destroy, in any way possible, anyone associated with Trump.
 
They never were important in my opinion no President or Presidential candidates tax returns are important I doubt few if any have based their vote on a candidates tax returns.
Tax returns after office are more likely to bust a president than before office. But either way unless someone is charged with a crime FIRST, it is none of our business

A full, complex IRS audit, when you have businesses, isn’t a walk in the park, and can take months to years, particularly with foreign investments.
I don't even know that the Dems would care about the actual results of a full IRS audit. What they'll be looking for are any juicy bits they can turn into immediate scandals, contrived or not. That's politics now.
.

Mac, I would like you to watch this 5 minute clip please. I know, I know, it will turn your stomach to do it, but let me explain WHY I am requesting you do something that might make you slightly ill, lol.

You would THINK that the Republicans have enough red meat AFTER the collusion/delusion has basically fallen apart. You would also THINK, they would have learned their lesson from the Democrats about not trying to pursue questionable transgressions without absolute proof of said transgressions. Why in the world would they follow suit and possibly get egg all over their faces? Do they want to be seen as the RIGHTS Shiff, or Swawell?

I am posting this 5 minute clip for YOU, so as you can follow along with the rest of us, to discover IF the Republicans can deliver on what they claim happened. LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS CLOSELY! It lays out exactly what they intend to try and prove, and that is why I posted it for you, even if it might make you slightly ill as it is from a Fox show.

This is NOT what they think happened, this is what they are giving to the AG to prove, and they want indictments! Once you see this, you will be able to know if they are blowing smoke if it all goes away, or if there is actual meat on the political bones, and it won't take to long to discover. I personally think they have something, but that might be through a partisan lens.

Why?

Because I find it hard to believe that they would do the same thing to themselves that the Democrats did, when they don't have to.

So please Mac, take the 5 minutes so as you can help parse out when something comes to light, or nothing comes to light! Remember, listen CLOSELY to what he spells out. If you can't handle the visual, just close your eyes and listen to the audio. And thanks in advance!


Okay, dammit, I watched the damn thing. And no, it wasn't easy. :laugh:

And I had actually seen most of that before, and I've listened to Hannity's show, which is all the same material.

Here's the deal: Whether it's Hannity or Limbaugh or Maddow or Matthews, I'm only getting one side of the story. And that side is ALWAYS so clear cut and so well thought-out and so specific and so damning! And yet, once it's subjected to the light of day, it begins to fade and unravel.

I'm not predicting anything. I'm happy to watch the partisans flail around and accuse and assume and guess. That's all they're capable of doing at this point. It's a sideshow. Then, when we actually get something that is verifiable and final, I'll believe it.
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Well, the point I was trying to make was-------------> no Hannity, but nunez, lol. Hannity means squat as far as I am concerned, lol.

point is------------> IF the Republicans put themselves in the trick bag by attempting an investigation that they can not prove, then they deserve to lose! The Left will forgive their heroes; we will not!

It is put up, or shut up time for the Republicans, and they created that problem for themselves by INSISTING that this happened, this way.
 
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This is actually a serious question. There have been so many accusations and "scandals" and rumors and investigations and breaking news stories and blockbusters and leaks and final straws and assumptions over the last several years that it can be difficult to keep track.

Obviously there must be some smoke here, and the goal is to discover the fire so that he can be brought down.

So what's the smoke?

Again, serious question.
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Because democrats are butt hurt
 
Dems need something to just muddy the water in the next election cycle, just like the nothing burger they had muddying the water in the midterm election.
They have no agenda they can run on, so it's make up something to confuse the people in not voting for Trump.
It's a political game the libbies like to play.....such sheep. sad

Did he lie when he said he’d release his taxes?

:stir:
 
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