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Why are fully vaccinated people testing positive for Covid?

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Folks. When vax became a major thing it ALMOST went away.

And then morons refused to vaccinate and the Delta variant went wild.

We HAD THIS BEAT...and you fucked up
Lesh --- that just isn't how it works. There is more to Planet Earth than Trump Country, after all. There is essentially no vaccine in all of Darkest Africa, and not much in South America or India. AAalllllll the mutant variants developed in those places, especially India, and here comes Lambda from the tip of South America heading north, maybe worse than Delta. These high-infective viruses sweep across a country in days --- Delta just did that with the U.S. last week. Nobody anywhere can stop an R8 from infecting everyone on Earth. Especially one that evolved its way out of the vaccine. You just want to blame people when it's not people who are to blame at all.

We never had this beat. The virus won and we lost; it's happened millennia after millennia. It's pretty much the norm.
 

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Why, just like you can't have a Pandemic without Panic and Dems, you can't have a Scamdemic without Scam and Dems.

The Covid Hoax is the biggest public policy fiasco in human history.
What do you think they should have done instead, Boedicca? Just let it rip, let the population build up immunity the old-fashioned way? They did a lot of harm pretending to us and to themselves that somehow they had control --- but they never had control.

I guess I'm thinking letting the disease do whatever it would do and focusing on trying to get people to survive it would have been better. Better treatments, focus on that.
 

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What do you think they should have done instead, Boedicca? Just let it rip, let the population build up immunity the old-fashioned way? They did a lot of harm pretending to us and to themselves that somehow they had control --- but they never had control.

I guess I'm thinking letting the disease do whatever it would do and focusing on trying to get people to survive it would have been better. Better treatments, focus on that.

It would have helped if our Ruling Elites weren't such a corrupt and incompetent bunch. Sweden did a far better job, but it has the advantage of being a small, more homogenous country with more cohesive social norms.

What we should have done:
1. Not put healthy people under de facto house arrest by shutting down our economy
2. Protect the vulnerable - elderly and already sick or immune compromised with equipment and procedures to keep the disease away from them.
3. Not politicize treatments and not prevent doctors from prescribed already tested drugs for offlable use (i.e. Hydroxychloroquine).
4. Fire Dr. Fauci after his horrible handling of the HIV crisis in the 1980s.
5. Not mandate masks and other Kabuki festishes.
6. Not use the easy to manipulate with false positives PCR test as the data for "cases". Use the standard clinical definition of cases (i.e., symptomatic, observable illness)
7. Do what we have done for decades: isolate and quarantine confirmed cases.
8. Not exploit this hyped up situation to add $Trillions to our national debt...thus putting a bigger burden on the children of today whose educations and futures were damaged by the shutdown.
9. Not pay Covid Bounties to medical establishments for counting every illness and death as Covid related (and thus feeding the Fear mongering machine).
10. Not allow any government bureaucrat or official to suspend The Constitution on a public health pretext.

For starters.
 

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Lesh --- that just isn't how it works. There is more to Planet Earth than Trump Country, after all. There is essentially no vaccine in all of Darkest Africa, and not much in South America or India. AAalllllll the mutant variants developed in those places, especially India, and here comes Lambda from the tip of South America heading north, maybe worse than Delta. These high-infective viruses sweep across a country in days --- Delta just did that with the U.S. last week. Nobody anywhere can stop an R8 from infecting everyone on Earth. Especially one that evolved its way out of the vaccine. You just want to blame people when it's not people who are to blame at all.

We never had this beat. The virus won and we lost; it's happened millennia after millennia. It's pretty much the norm.
That's total gibberish
 

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Some recent information about the Wuhan Virus


Phoenix Suns basketball star Chris Paul, UK health secretary Sajid Javid and US Olympic gymnast Kara Eaker have something in common: they have all tested positive for coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated.

No vaccine is 100 per cent effective, so what scientists call “breakthrough infections” were always expected. In most cases, the symptoms are mild.

However, as a new surge in Covid-19 cases has collided with a global vaccination campaign delivering more than 200m shots a week, more people are asking: “How protected am I?” How many fully vaccinated people are testing positive?

While anecdotal accounts of breakthrough infections can make such cases feel widespread, the real numbers have remained small and were generally in line with expectations, experts said. “There’s no such thing as a perfect vaccine . . . with Covid it’s no different,” said Professor William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University.

The yellow fever jab, for example, is widely understood to be the most effective live-virus vaccine ever invented, with a single dose generating long-lasting immunity in 98 per cent of those vaccinated. But even that means that on average 2 per cent of people will still get infected.
Two words..Delta Variant. You see viruses have a tendency to mutate. If the vaccinated are having a break through infection it's from the mutated (Delta) virus not COVID. They will suffer MILD symptoms while the un-vaccinated are in for a rough ride.
 

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It would have helped if our Ruling Elites weren't such a corrupt and incompetent bunch. Sweden did a far better job, but it has the advantage of being a small, more homogenous country with more cohesive social norms.

What we should have done:
1. Not put healthy people under de facto house arrest by shutting down our economy
2. Protect the vulnerable - elderly and already sick or immune compromised with equipment and procedures to keep the disease away from them.
3. Not politicize treatments and not prevent doctors from prescribed already tested drugs for offlable use (i.e. Hydroxychloroquine).
4. Fire Dr. Fauci after his horrible handling of the HIV crisis in the 1980s.
5. Not mandate masks and other Kabuki festishes.
6. Not use the easy to manipulate with false positives PCR test as the data for "cases". Use the standard clinical definition of cases (i.e., symptomatic, observable illness)
7. Do what we have done for decades: isolate and quarantine confirmed cases.
8. Not exploit this hyped up situation to add $Trillions to our national debt...thus putting a bigger burden on the children of today whose educations and futures were damaged by the shutdown.
9. Not pay Covid Bounties to medical establishments for counting every illness and death as Covid related (and thus feeding the Fear mongering machine).
10. Not allow any government bureaucrat or official to suspend The Constitution on a public health pretext.

For starters.
Excellent. I entirely agree.
 

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Why are fully vaccinated people testing positive for Covid?​




The only people who said these inoculations will absolutely prevent one from being infected are politicians. Like our president
 

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shockedcanadian

Hey man, congrats on the win this morning.
Some asshole announced it just as I was getting ready to watch my recording.
I skimmed it, didn’t miss much. Our gals were joyless and flat. Didn’t deserve to win.
Rock on!
 

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Some recent information about the Wuhan Virus


Phoenix Suns basketball star Chris Paul, UK health secretary Sajid Javid and US Olympic gymnast Kara Eaker have something in common: they have all tested positive for coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated.

No vaccine is 100 per cent effective, so what scientists call “breakthrough infections” were always expected. In most cases, the symptoms are mild.

However, as a new surge in Covid-19 cases has collided with a global vaccination campaign delivering more than 200m shots a week, more people are asking: “How protected am I?” How many fully vaccinated people are testing positive?

While anecdotal accounts of breakthrough infections can make such cases feel widespread, the real numbers have remained small and were generally in line with expectations, experts said. “There’s no such thing as a perfect vaccine . . . with Covid it’s no different,” said Professor William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University.

The yellow fever jab, for example, is widely understood to be the most effective live-virus vaccine ever invented, with a single dose generating long-lasting immunity in 98 per cent of those vaccinated. But even that means that on average 2 per cent of people will still get infected.


The real question is why are people without significant symptoms, particularly if they are full vaxxed, being tested at all? Is there a motive to spread panic and fear among the people?
 

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Some recent information about the Wuhan Virus


Phoenix Suns basketball star Chris Paul, UK health secretary Sajid Javid and US Olympic gymnast Kara Eaker have something in common: they have all tested positive for coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated.

No vaccine is 100 per cent effective, so what scientists call “breakthrough infections” were always expected. In most cases, the symptoms are mild.

However, as a new surge in Covid-19 cases has collided with a global vaccination campaign delivering more than 200m shots a week, more people are asking: “How protected am I?” How many fully vaccinated people are testing positive?

While anecdotal accounts of breakthrough infections can make such cases feel widespread, the real numbers have remained small and were generally in line with expectations, experts said. “There’s no such thing as a perfect vaccine . . . with Covid it’s no different,” said Professor William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University.

The yellow fever jab, for example, is widely understood to be the most effective live-virus vaccine ever invented, with a single dose generating long-lasting immunity in 98 per cent of those vaccinated. But even that means that on average 2 per cent of people will still get infected.
Because vaccines do not prevent you from contracting the virus that the relevant vaccine was administered to you against.

Vaccines allows your immune system to build the right antibodies to kill the virus. Now, if you contact covid after vaccination, your body should have a good chance in killing the virus without requiring medical intervention. As these vaccines have a ninety odd percent protection rate, a small percentage will still unfortunately die.

A vaccine does not transform you into a superman against the virus.
 

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The real question is why are people without significant symptoms, particularly if they are full vaxxed, being tested at all? Is there a motive to spread panic and fear among the people?
Because we need to know where the virus IS?

If it is spreading?

Who has it?

Knowledge is generally a good thing...ya think?
 

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Some recent information about the Wuhan Virus


Phoenix Suns basketball star Chris Paul, UK health secretary Sajid Javid and US Olympic gymnast Kara Eaker have something in common: they have all tested positive for coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated.

No vaccine is 100 per cent effective, so what scientists call “breakthrough infections” were always expected. In most cases, the symptoms are mild.

However, as a new surge in Covid-19 cases has collided with a global vaccination campaign delivering more than 200m shots a week, more people are asking: “How protected am I?” How many fully vaccinated people are testing positive?

While anecdotal accounts of breakthrough infections can make such cases feel widespread, the real numbers have remained small and were generally in line with expectations, experts said. “There’s no such thing as a perfect vaccine . . . with Covid it’s no different,” said Professor William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University.

The yellow fever jab, for example, is widely understood to be the most effective live-virus vaccine ever invented, with a single dose generating long-lasting immunity in 98 per cent of those vaccinated. But even that means that on average 2 per cent of people will still get infected.
The vaccinations weren’t developed for the Delta variant.
 

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Some recent information about the Wuhan Virus


Phoenix Suns basketball star Chris Paul, UK health secretary Sajid Javid and US Olympic gymnast Kara Eaker have something in common: they have all tested positive for coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated.

No vaccine is 100 per cent effective, so what scientists call “breakthrough infections” were always expected. In most cases, the symptoms are mild.

However, as a new surge in Covid-19 cases has collided with a global vaccination campaign delivering more than 200m shots a week, more people are asking: “How protected am I?” How many fully vaccinated people are testing positive?

While anecdotal accounts of breakthrough infections can make such cases feel widespread, the real numbers have remained small and were generally in line with expectations, experts said. “There’s no such thing as a perfect vaccine . . . with Covid it’s no different,” said Professor William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University.

The yellow fever jab, for example, is widely understood to be the most effective live-virus vaccine ever invented, with a single dose generating long-lasting immunity in 98 per cent of those vaccinated. But even that means that on average 2 per cent of people will still get infected.

You can still get pregnant if your take birth control
You can still die in a car crash if your seat belt is buckled

What the vaccine, birth control, and seat belts do is increase your likelihood of not dying from covid 19, not getting pregnant, and surviving the car crash.
 

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Why are fully vaccinated people testing positive for Covid?​




I frankly don't know OP

But some people are starting to think.......they inject you against Covid....

and perhaps you are being infected with Covid?

because - apart from that - it doesn't make sense.....to me at least! :dunno:
 

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Two reasons.

1) Because the jabs which are passed off as vaccines aren't actually vaccines, and haven't been proven to stop a coronavirus, which has been historically known to mutate very rapidly, and has always been known as impossible to "cure," or prevent.

. . and

2) The PCR tests are not standardized. Every place can use different sensitivity in testing. This test was never designed to be a diagnostic test, it was, and has always ever been designed as a research tool. The establishment has politicized it and has now entirely used it as a control and propaganda tool.


Before the World Health Organization redefined that term, "pandemic," as a matter of multiple epidemics as defined by the number of cases detected, instead of epidemics as defined by the numbers of hospitalizations, with the advent of the swine flu, this justified calling the swine flu, a, "pandemic." Otherwise? The swine flue would have never been called a "pandemic," there were not enough folks hospitalized.

So too. . . this current so called "resurgence?" I suspect there aren't enough hospitalizations.

In fact, I suspect in many places, there probably weren't enough hospitalizations the first go around to qualify as a epidemic, thus, making the classification of a "pandemic," suspect. None of those hospital ships were used. Several of the expanded overflow facilities that were hastily built around the nation were never used. Folks DON'T KNOW THIS, because of censorship.
And in the middle of the pandemic hospitals allowed medical/ nursing staff to take 2 week vacations while office personnel filled in doing menial tasks such delivering and preparing patients food,checking blood pressure,helping patients move around etc…
 

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It would have helped if our Ruling Elites weren't such a corrupt and incompetent bunch. Sweden did a far better job, but it has the advantage of being a small, more homogenous country with more cohesive social norms.

What we should have done:
1. Not put healthy people under de facto house arrest by shutting down our economy
2. Protect the vulnerable - elderly and already sick or immune compromised with equipment and procedures to keep the disease away from them.
3. Not politicize treatments and not prevent doctors from prescribed already tested drugs for offlable use (i.e. Hydroxychloroquine).
4. Fire Dr. Fauci after his horrible handling of the HIV crisis in the 1980s.
5. Not mandate masks and other Kabuki festishes.
6. Not use the easy to manipulate with false positives PCR test as the data for "cases". Use the standard clinical definition of cases (i.e., symptomatic, observable illness)
7. Do what we have done for decades: isolate and quarantine confirmed cases.
8. Not exploit this hyped up situation to add $Trillions to our national debt...thus putting a bigger burden on the children of today whose educations and futures were damaged by the shutdown.
9. Not pay Covid Bounties to medical establishments for counting every illness and death as Covid related (and thus feeding the Fear mongering machine).
10. Not allow any government bureaucrat or official to suspend The Constitution on a public health pretext.

For starters.
Democrats had to murder seniors in nursing homes. How else could they get the large numbers of deaths they needed to push their agenda forward.
 

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Yes! ^^^ and I want to know.....why is that? why is it that all the countries with biggest vaccination rate have the highest Covid rate case?

Why? why???????

Any doctor in the House to explain this?
 

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Two words..Delta Variant. You see viruses have a tendency to mutate. If the vaccinated are having a break through infection it's from the mutated (Delta) virus not COVID. They will suffer MILD symptoms while the un-vaccinated are in for a rough ride.

Actually no, there are no viable mutation in human life time periods.
Mutations are random damage like from radiation, and almost always fatal to anything, including a virus.
It takes on the order of a million years before by chance a mutation will actually survive and be any better.
Mutations are not where variants come from.

Variants could have always been there. It just takes time and natural selection for some long standing variants to be brought to a greater percentage.
Variants could also be hybrids, since more than one virus can inject its RNA into the nucleus of the same cell, mixing them.

Anyway, with time, all viruses get less lethal but more infectious.
And the way to end any epidemic is to stop "flattening the curve".
That always just makes any epidemic worse.
 

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