CDZ Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings

[Billy_Kinetta]

"In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn." - From the article

Damn right! Bless America.

Why would you NOT give a damn about mass shootings?

I don't give a damn about anyone who uses a tragedy - be it terrorism or psychotic with a gun - to advance a political agenda.

As soon as the argument goes towards depriving anyone of their rights who wasn't involved in the shooting it's time to tune out.

You don't give a damn. When you or your family are involved in a mass shooting, are you going to give a damn?

Nobody is depriving anyone of their rights.

Nor will anyone. That ship has sunk.

You can't show that anyone is depriving you of your rights.

Of course not. We've won the war. Merely a few details remain to be swept away.

 

[OnePercenter]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

This hit home for me:

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

yea, the left isn't coming for our guns..


you freedom hating filth won't be happy until we are down to plastic sporks

the idiotic idea that bans would make us safer is just ignorant on a level that can't be described.

It would make mass shootings harder to commit and less prevalent.

no it wouldn't, that's a dream with no reference in reality

Except for Canada, Australia, and the UK.

Could Paddock have amassed his weaponry? NO.

Could the Texas shooter who was denied a gun sale in Texas drive to a different State and buy? NO.

Where are you digging up this bullshit?

He was denied a concealed carry permit by Texas. He bought three weapons legally.

Because the system didn't work.

 

[OnePercenter]

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you idiots have that you could defend yourselves with some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world. As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

Your understanding of how things really are is simply pathetic. Your statement is that people should just acquiesce to the whims of "gubemint" because resistance is futile....what a chickenshit you are. Allow me to remind you that over 200,000,000 people (mostly unarmed) have been murdered by their "gubermint" and mostly that of commies and socialists such as yourself. Fuck you.....you want to disarm the public? Please put your ass on the front line for the "door to door" confiscation.

You write 200M people? Want to put some relevance behind that?

 

[OnePercenter]

"In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn." - From the article

Damn right! Bless America.

Why would you NOT give a damn about mass shootings?

I don't give a damn about anyone who uses a tragedy - be it terrorism or psychotic with a gun - to advance a political agenda.

As soon as the argument goes towards depriving anyone of their rights who wasn't involved in the shooting it's time to tune out.

You don't give a damn. When you or your family are involved in a mass shooting, are you going to give a damn?

Nobody is depriving anyone of their rights.

The fact is that I have a much greater chance of being the victim of a violent crime than getting killed in a mass shooting.

1% of all murders take place in mass shooting events.

So I would rather be dispassionate and logical regarding mass shootings than an emotional knee jerk reactionary

Here is some "dispassionate and logical" information for you.

Mass shootings in America are a serious problem -- and these charts show just why - CNN

 

[OnePercenter]

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you have, that you could defend yourselves during some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world.

As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

The second amendment doesn't cause mass shootings.

The fact that leftists insist on normalizing crazing, violent predators to the point where they won't let us lock them up....does.

As does the fact that leftists insist on importing crazy, violent predators from countries known for sending us bombs and murderers.

A redefined second amendment allows people to become mass shooters.

 

[OnePercenter]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

An AR-15 was used to stop the shooter in Texas.....he saved 26 lives. there are 16 million of these rifles vs. the 2 that were used, illegally, to murder people....

The Right to bear these arms is protected by our natural right to self defense....we do not change the constitution based on 2 criminals breaking the law......

Had you engaged the shooter, he would have retreated or given up...as all of them do...or committed suicide.....that is how they act when confronted by an armed citizen.

The shooter was already done when he was shot be the AR-15.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you have, that you could defend yourselves during some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world.

As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

The second amendment doesn't cause mass shootings.

The fact that leftists insist on normalizing crazing, violent predators to the point where they won't let us lock them up....does.

As does the fact that leftists insist on importing crazy, violent predators from countries known for sending us bombs and murderers.

A redefined second amendment allows people to become mass shooters.

There has been no redefinition. The original meaning has been reinforced, and has nothing to do with criminal behavior.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

We have sown the seeds of gun violence by our apathy. We have cultivated the fields with political intimidation through the powerful gun lobbies. We have watered the fields with the blood of the innocent. And now we must reap the whirlwind.

Gun advocates will argue that as no law could prevent gun violence, no laws need be written.

The lawful will not give up the right. The criminal will ignore any law.

Your solution?

Your right to bear arms isn't already infringed. Where do you store your thermonuclear warhead? Your flamethrower? Your mortar?

Your right could bear a little more nfringment for the sake of public safety.

I suggest you approach your Representatives and Presidential candidates.

Have them run on changing the Constitution and infringing on the 2nd.

 

[OnePercenter]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

Can not outlaw semi automatic weapons the Courts already ruled that in order to be protected by the 2nd Amendment a weapon must be of use to the military.

There is no apathy....this guy wasn't stopped, not because of the NRA or the AR-15 rifle.....he wasn't stopped because a clerk in the Air Force didn't press "send."

He did his deed to such an extent because semi-automatic rifles are available to the public.

 

[koshergrl]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

An AR-15 was used to stop the shooter in Texas.....he saved 26 lives. there are 16 million of these rifles vs. the 2 that were used, illegally, to murder people....

The Right to bear these arms is protected by our natural right to self defense....we do not change the constitution based on 2 criminals breaking the law......

Had you engaged the shooter, he would have retreated or given up...as all of them do...or committed suicide.....that is how they act when confronted by an armed citizen.

The shooter was already done when he was shot be the AR-15.

How the fuck do you know that?

Answer....you don't.

 

[OnePercenter]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

yea, the left isn't coming for our guns..


you freedom hating filth won't be happy until we are down to plastic sporks

the idiotic idea that bans would make us safer is just ignorant on a level that can't be described.

It would make mass shootings harder to commit and less prevalent.

The texas shooter with a rifle....26 murdered.

Virginia Tech shooter with 2 pistols....32 murdered.

Nice, France muslim...rental truck, 89 murdered.

See the problem with your post?

The Virginia Tech shooter was multiple locations, the Texas shooter had a semi-automatic rifle.

Las Vegas, 58 dead, 500+ injured in nine minutes-----Semi-automatic converted to fully automatic.

 

[OnePercenter]

Why would you NOT give a damn about mass shootings?

I don't give a damn about anyone who uses a tragedy - be it terrorism or psychotic with a gun - to advance a political agenda.

As soon as the argument goes towards depriving anyone of their rights who wasn't involved in the shooting it's time to tune out.

You don't give a damn. When you or your family are involved in a mass shooting, are you going to give a damn?

Nobody is depriving anyone of their rights.

Nor will anyone. That ship has sunk.

You can't show that anyone is depriving you of your rights.

Of course not. We've won the war. Merely a few details remain to be swept away.

Won what war?

 

[OnePercenter]

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you have, that you could defend yourselves during some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world.

As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

The second amendment doesn't cause mass shootings.

The fact that leftists insist on normalizing crazing, violent predators to the point where they won't let us lock them up....does.

As does the fact that leftists insist on importing crazy, violent predators from countries known for sending us bombs and murderers.

A redefined second amendment allows people to become mass shooters.

There has been no redefinition. The original meaning has been reinforced, and has nothing to do with criminal behavior.

The orginal meaning with the information that was available at the time the second amendment was ratified was reinforced?

 

[OnePercenter]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

An AR-15 was used to stop the shooter in Texas.....he saved 26 lives. there are 16 million of these rifles vs. the 2 that were used, illegally, to murder people....

The Right to bear these arms is protected by our natural right to self defense....we do not change the constitution based on 2 criminals breaking the law......

Had you engaged the shooter, he would have retreated or given up...as all of them do...or committed suicide.....that is how they act when confronted by an armed citizen.

The shooter was already done when he was shot be the AR-15.

How the fuck do you know that?

Answer....you don't.

Published reports stated that the shooter was leaving the church.

 

[2aguy]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

yea, the left isn't coming for our guns..


you freedom hating filth won't be happy until we are down to plastic sporks

the idiotic idea that bans would make us safer is just ignorant on a level that can't be described.

It would make mass shootings harder to commit and less prevalent.

The texas shooter with a rifle....26 murdered.

Virginia Tech shooter with 2 pistols....32 murdered.

Nice, France muslim...rental truck, 89 murdered.

See the problem with your post?

The Virginia Tech shooter was multiple locations, the Texas shooter had a semi-automatic rifle.

Las Vegas, 58 dead, 500+ injured in nine minutes-----Semi-automatic converted to fully automatic.

It wasn't converted to fully automatic.....not even close.

It doesn't matter that there were multiple locations...on the campus.....he still used 2 pistols to murder 32 people.....

And the truck in Nice,89 murdered.....450 injured.

 

[2aguy]

"In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn." - From the article

Damn right! Bless America.

Why would you NOT give a damn about mass shootings?

I don't give a damn about anyone who uses a tragedy - be it terrorism or psychotic with a gun - to advance a political agenda.

As soon as the argument goes towards depriving anyone of their rights who wasn't involved in the shooting it's time to tune out.

You don't give a damn. When you or your family are involved in a mass shooting, are you going to give a damn?

Nobody is depriving anyone of their rights.

The fact is that I have a much greater chance of being the victim of a violent crime than getting killed in a mass shooting.

1% of all murders take place in mass shooting events.

So I would rather be dispassionate and logical regarding mass shootings than an emotional knee jerk reactionary

Here is some "dispassionate and logical" information for you.

Mass shootings in America are a serious problem -- and these charts show just why - CNN

Mass shootings in 2016....total of 6....number murdered total, 71.

Nice, France, one attack, using rental truck, 89 murdered, over 450 injured.

Rental truck killings are a serious problem.....

 

[2aguy]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

An AR-15 was used to stop the shooter in Texas.....he saved 26 lives. there are 16 million of these rifles vs. the 2 that were used, illegally, to murder people....

The Right to bear these arms is protected by our natural right to self defense....we do not change the constitution based on 2 criminals breaking the law......

Had you engaged the shooter, he would have retreated or given up...as all of them do...or committed suicide.....that is how they act when confronted by an armed citizen.

The shooter was already done when he was shot be the AR-15.

How the fuck do you know that?

Answer....you don't.

Published reports stated that the shooter was leaving the church.

No....the actual survivor of the attack stated that he was walking up and down the pews murdering survivors....he murdered the woman next to her and was about to murder the survivor when a man outside the church with a gun drew his attention.....26 lives saved by a man with an AR-15 civilian rifle.....

 

[2aguy]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

Can not outlaw semi automatic weapons the Courts already ruled that in order to be protected by the 2nd Amendment a weapon must be of use to the military.

There is no apathy....this guy wasn't stopped, not because of the NRA or the AR-15 rifle.....he wasn't stopped because a clerk in the Air Force didn't press "send."

He did his deed to such an extent because semi-automatic rifles are available to the public.

No.....he did that because he targeted a gun free zone with a lot of unarmed victims....all it took was one man, with one gun, to stop the attack and make him run away.......

 

[2aguy]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

An AR-15 was used to stop the shooter in Texas.....he saved 26 lives. there are 16 million of these rifles vs. the 2 that were used, illegally, to murder people....

The Right to bear these arms is protected by our natural right to self defense....we do not change the constitution based on 2 criminals breaking the law......

Had you engaged the shooter, he would have retreated or given up...as all of them do...or committed suicide.....that is how they act when confronted by an armed citizen.

The shooter was already done when he was shot be the AR-15.

Wrong....did you even read the story from the survivors...or did you just decide to talk out of your ass....?

'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

the civilian with the AR-15 civilian rifle saved the lives of the wounded in that church...26 of them....

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

yea, the left isn't coming for our guns..


you freedom hating filth won't be happy until we are down to plastic sporks

the idiotic idea that bans would make us safer is just ignorant on a level that can't be described.

It would make mass shootings harder to commit and less prevalent.

no it wouldn't, that's a dream with no reference in reality

Except for Canada, Australia, and the UK.

Could Paddock have amassed his weaponry? NO.

Could the Texas shooter who was denied a gun sale in Texas drive to a different State and buy? NO.

Where are you digging up this bullshit?

He was denied a concealed carry permit by Texas. He bought three weapons legally.

Because the system didn't work.

... which had nothing to do with the question!

I wish you people would learn to read.