Why 2nd Amendment supporters who support mandatory training are wrong….

[Failzero]

I already have one, TYVM!

One ?

 

[Blues Man]

She is responsible for her own safety.

But stupid is as you do so...

And you don't want her to have a gun

 

[Blues Man]

Criminals are responsible for their crimes.
Untrained gun owners are responsibl for making those crimes easier/possible.

What does training have to do with it?

Oh yeah NOTHING.

 

[Cellblock2429]

All of it.

/---/ Just as I thought, you got nothing.

 

[Dadoalex]

And you don't want her to have a gun

Never said that liar.

But it takes a fool to think a gun is a substitute for your brain when it comes to self protection.

And fools end up dead.

 

[Dadoalex]

What does training have to do with it?

Oh yeah NOTHING.

When a person is safety aware the person makes fewer mistakes.
When a person thinks a firearm is a substitute for a brain when it come to personal protection that fool will end up dead. OR...He'll be responsible for the deaths of others.

 

[Blues Man]

Never said that liar.

But it takes a fool to think a gun is a substitute for your brain when it comes to self protection.

And fools end up dead.

Yup fools who fuck with an armed citizen end up dead.

Darwinism at work. It's a wonder you're still alive.

 

[Dadoalex]

/---/ Just as I thought, you got nothing.

True. I was speaking to your intellect and it's really hard to hit such a tiny target.

 

[Blues Man]

When a person is safety aware the person makes fewer mistakes.
When a person thinks a firearm is a substitute for a brain when it come to personal protection that fool will end up dead. OR...He'll be responsible for the deaths of others.

You don't need "training" to learn basic gun safety.

Well maybe you do but the rest of us are smart enough to figure it out on our own.

 

[Dadoalex]

You don't need "training" to learn basic gun safety.

Well maybe you do but the rest of us are smart enough to figure it out on our own.

Obviously not.

 

[Blues Man]

Obviously not.
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That number is statistically insignificant when you take into account that there are tens of millions of legal gun use incidences annually and that up to 60% of Americans legally own guns.

Any other product or activity with that kind of accidental death percentage would be called extraordinarily safe by anyone with a brain.

And let's not forget that 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides and are not crimes the other third are mostly committed by people who are illegally possessing guns.

 

[M14 Shooter]

And let's not forget that 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides and are not crimes the other third are mostly committed by people who are illegally possessing guns.

More than half of that 1/3 are committed by a certain ~4% of the population.

 

[Dadoalex]

That number is statistically insignificant when you take into account that there are tens of millions of legal gun use incidences annually and that up to 60% of Americans legally own guns.

Any other product or activity with that kind of accidental death percentage would be called extraordinarily safe by anyone with a brain.

And let's not forget that 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides and are not crimes the other third are mostly committed by people who are illegally possessing guns.

Your ignorance of the topic is not surprising.

Oh, and your claims are irrelevant to the topic.

It is undeniable that firearms training would reduce accidental shootings and deaths.
It is undeniable that firearms training would reduce theft and thereby criminal access to firearms.

Do try to think beyond your kneejerk reactions.
Just like expanded background checks, training would save lives and reduce gun crime.

 

[2aguy]

Not really true. Not 100%.

I am just responding to his dumb claim that since guns are stolen by criminals, we need to ban guns.

 

[2aguy]

Your ignorance of the topic is not surprising.

Oh, and your claims are irrelevant to the topic.

It is undeniable that firearms training would reduce accidental shootings and deaths.
It is undeniable that firearms training would reduce theft and thereby criminal access to firearms.

Do try to think beyond your kneejerk reactions.
Just like expanded background checks, training would save lives and reduce gun crime.

Yes.....they would reduce each thing......as a mandatory literacy test would make for better voters......but mandating literacy tests or training to own and carry a gun are unConstitutional.....


Background checks don't do anything to stop criminals.

 

[2aguy]

Your ignorance of the topic is not surprising.

Oh, and your claims are irrelevant to the topic.

It is undeniable that firearms training would reduce accidental shootings and deaths.
It is undeniable that firearms training would reduce theft and thereby criminal access to firearms.

Do try to think beyond your kneejerk reactions.
Just like expanded background checks, training would save lives and reduce gun crime.

Do you know what would actually reduce gun crime by about 95%? Keeping the democrat party from releasing violent criminals over and over again, not matter how often they commit violent gun crimes...

 

[2aguy]

When a person is safety aware the person makes fewer mistakes.
When a person thinks a firearm is a substitute for a brain when it come to personal protection that fool will end up dead. OR...He'll be responsible for the deaths of others.

Yes...we get it....you believe that women are responsible for rape in this country...you don't have to keep selling your point.

 

[2aguy]

Obviously not.
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The majority of firearm accidents also happen to criminals who can't buy, own or legally carry a gun, yet have them because they are criminals engaged in crime......they are also often high or drunk at the time of the accidents......

 

[Blues Man]

Your ignorance of the topic is not surprising.

Oh, and your claims are irrelevant to the topic.

It is undeniable that firearms training would reduce accidental shootings and deaths.
It is undeniable that firearms training would reduce theft and thereby criminal access to firearms.

Do try to think beyond your kneejerk reactions.
Just like expanded background checks, training would save lives and reduce gun crime.

Really?

You seem to think that .00025% of gun owners being involved in fatal accidents is statistically significant.

And I don't think you can get a much lower accidental death percentage when there are tens of millions of legal gun use incidences and up to 60% of the population owning guns.

And BG checks don't reduce crime because criminals don't get BG checks.

And the fact that there are so few fatal gun accidents is proof that the vast majority of gun owners are indeed practicing gun safety

 

[2aguy]

Obviously not.
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600 million guns in the hands of Americans.....

around 500 accidental gun deaths.....

Yeah, not the problem you claim it is so you can ban guns.

Meanwhile...

290 million cars in the U.S.....

over 40,000 accidental deaths due to cars.....

Ban cars....right?