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The sad thing is that in the Obama terrorist attacks, the Al Qaida operatives were known, however, because of the lack of aggresiveness THANKS TO OBAMA the terrorist attacks proceeded.


Yeah! It makes it even worse knowing how badly the Bush admin crippled the morale of alkida by catching bin laden back in February 2002. Man, can you imagine how much it would have emboldened the enemy if bin laden was able to outsmart the world's strongest empire and remain free for almost ten years after 9E? Wow CMike, you make some most awesome bodacious totally partisan free points!
 
Hey so what if 3 Al Qaida generated man made disasters occurred in Obama's first year?

At least those poor dear wee terrorists weren't denied their rights.

I mean if they were put under close surveillance, that would certainly violate their privacy rights. That awful Patriot Act...Just terrible...:eusa_hand:

And of course if they were detained, that would be awful too.

They also might have been sent to those secret global torture chambers where someone might have coerced information that would stop further man made disasters. How awful. What would the world think?

Do we really want to play around with someone's civil rights?

I mean Al Qaida man made disaster facilitators are people too. They shouldn't be unduly burdened. Thank the lord we know have Obama to make sure that Al Qaida man made facilitators aren't burdened with american intelligence people and they can purse whatever they want to do.

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The sad thing is that in the Obama terrorist attacks, the Al Qaida operatives were known, however, because of the lack of aggresiveness THANKS TO OBAMA the terrorist attacks proceeded.


Yeah! It makes it even worse knowing how badly the Bush admin crippled the morale of alkida by catching bin laden back in February 2002. Man, can you imagine how much it would have emboldened the enemy if bin laden was able to outsmart the world's strongest empire and remain free for almost ten years after 9E? Wow CMike, you make some most awesome bodacious totally partisan free points!

If that moron Bill Clinton simply accepted Sudan's offer to take bin Laden into custody, we wouldn't be trying to find him in whatever cave he is hiding in now.
 
Gee. I may have read somewhere the US military has a fairly large presence in both Iraq and afghanistan and this may be purely wild speculation, but isn't it possible there are MP units, jails, and detention centers? Naw. You're right. Kidnapping people from random nations and keeping them in secret prisons is the only way to handle the logistics.

What the fuck is wrong with people?

If iran had secret prisons and publicly acknowledged them you wouldn't be able to hear a thunderstorm from all the foot stomping demanding that iran be bombed and forced to stop it's State sanctioned involuntary relocation plan.

According to your own link they are only put in the prison until they are transfered to Gitmo.

And Al Qaida terrorists are not just prisoners. Information needs to be gotten from them to stop terrorist attacks from happening.


So you approve of secret prisons being run by any nation?

Based on the article that was posted I certainly approve of that.

Al Qaida terrorists were put in prisons where they were interrogated until they were sent to Gitmo for trial. Sounds like a plan to me.

Hey if it was secret how do you know about it?
 
The sad thing is that in the Obama terrorist attacks, the Al Qaida operatives were known, however, because of the lack of aggresiveness THANKS TO OBAMA the terrorist attacks proceeded.


Yeah! It makes it even worse knowing how badly the Bush admin crippled the morale of alkida by catching bin laden back in February 2002. Man, can you imagine how much it would have emboldened the enemy if bin laden was able to outsmart the world's strongest empire and remain free for almost ten years after 9E? Wow CMike, you make some most awesome bodacious totally partisan free points!

If that moron Bill Clinton simply accepted Sudan's offer to take bin Laden into custody, we wouldn't be trying to find him in whatever cave he is hiding in now.


Sudan never offered bin laden to the US. First you didn't know about secret prisons and now this?

(you might benefit by a posting break to go get informed on some basic issues)
 
I also have to point out how Bush dickwackers always fucking ignore Bush never got bin laden in the SEVEN YEARS after 9E. They always gloss right over it. Here's some advice: grow some fucking courage and have the audacity required to not walk lock-step. The best part is if you do you will probably enjoy the new scenery of no longer looking at nothing but the back of someone else's head.
 
Yeah! It makes it even worse knowing how badly the Bush admin crippled the morale of alkida by catching bin laden back in February 2002. Man, can you imagine how much it would have emboldened the enemy if bin laden was able to outsmart the world's strongest empire and remain free for almost ten years after 9E? Wow CMike, you make some most awesome bodacious totally partisan free points!

If that moron Bill Clinton simply accepted Sudan's offer to take bin Laden into custody, we wouldn't be trying to find him in whatever cave he is hiding in now.


Sudan never offered bin laden to the US. First you didn't know about secret prisons and now this?

(you might benefit by a posting break to go get informed on some basic issues)

:lol: You are funny.

If you click on the audio link in this link you can hear clinton making excuses of why he turned down Sudan's offer of OBL.


On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role

On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role


Bill Clinton denies it now, but he once admitted he passed up an opportunity to extradite Osama bin Laden.

And NewsMax has the former President making the claim on audiotape. [You can listen to the tape yourself] -- Click Here

Clinton's comments and his actions relating to American efforts to capture bin Laden have taken on renewed interest because of claims made in a new ABC movie, the "Path to 9/11," that suggests Clinton dropped the ball during his presidency. Clinton has also angrily denied claims the Monica Lewinsky scandal drew his attention away from dealing with national security matters like capturing bin Laden.

...During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him."

But that wasn't exactly true. By 1996, the 9/11 mastermind had already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by prosecutors in New York.
 
According to your own link they are only put in the prison until they are transfered to Gitmo.

And Al Qaida terrorists are not just prisoners. Information needs to be gotten from them to stop terrorist attacks from happening.


So you approve of secret prisons being run by any nation?

Based on the article that was posted I certainly approve of that.

Al Qaida terrorists were put in prisons where they were interrogated until they were sent to Gitmo for trial. Sounds like a plan to me.

Hey if it was secret how do you know about it?

You dodged the question. One more time:

So you approve of secret prisons being run by any nation?
 
I also have to point out how Bush dickwackers always fucking ignore Bush never got bin laden in the SEVEN YEARS after 9E. They always gloss right over it. Here's some advice: grow some fucking courage and have the audacity required to not walk lock-step. The best part is if you do you will probably enjoy the new scenery of no longer looking at nothing but the back of someone else's head.

Follow your own advice.

I can back up everything I say. You can't.
 
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So you approve of secret prisons being run by any nation?

Based on the article that was posted I certainly approve of that.

Al Qaida terrorists were put in prisons where they were interrogated until they were sent to Gitmo for trial. Sounds like a plan to me.

Hey if it was secret how do you know about it?

You dodged the question. One more time:

So you approve of secret prisons being run by any nation?

I answered your question already.
 
I am still wondering if the prisons are secret how do you know about them?
 
If that moron Bill Clinton simply accepted Sudan's offer to take bin Laden into custody, we wouldn't be trying to find him in whatever cave he is hiding in now.


Sudan never offered bin laden to the US. First you didn't know about secret prisons and now this?

(you might benefit by a posting break to go get informed on some basic issues)

:lol: You are funny.

If you click on the audio link in this link you can hear clinton making excuses of why he turned down Sudan's offer of OBL.


On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role

On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role


Bill Clinton denies it now, but he once admitted he passed up an opportunity to extradite Osama bin Laden.

And NewsMax has the former President making the claim on audiotape. [You can listen to the tape yourself] -- Click Here

Clinton's comments and his actions relating to American efforts to capture bin Laden have taken on renewed interest because of claims made in a new ABC movie, the "Path to 9/11," that suggests Clinton dropped the ball during his presidency. Clinton has also angrily denied claims the Monica Lewinsky scandal drew his attention away from dealing with national security matters like capturing bin Laden.

...During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him."

But that wasn't exactly true. By 1996, the 9/11 mastermind had already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by prosecutors in New York.


ROTFLLMAOT!! Newsmax? That explains a lot!
 
Based on the article that was posted I certainly approve of that.

Al Qaida terrorists were put in prisons where they were interrogated until they were sent to Gitmo for trial. Sounds like a plan to me.

Hey if it was secret how do you know about it?

You dodged the question. One more time:

So you approve of secret prisons being run by any nation?

I answered your question already.


So you approve of secret prisons being run by any nation?

(that is a simple yes or no answer)
 
I also have to point out how Bush dickwackers always fucking ignore Bush never got bin laden in the SEVEN YEARS after 9E. They always gloss right over it. Here's some advice: grow some fucking courage and have the audacity required to not walk lock-step. The best part is if you do you will probably enjoy the new scenery of no longer looking at nothing but the back of someone else's head.

Follow your own advice.

I can back up everything I say. You can't.


Dude, you cited fucking newsmax. Newsmax! Who the fuck cites newsmax and expects to be taken seriously?
 
I also have to point out how Bush dickwackers always fucking ignore Bush never got bin laden in the SEVEN YEARS after 9E. They always gloss right over it. Here's some advice: grow some fucking courage and have the audacity required to not walk lock-step. The best part is if you do you will probably enjoy the new scenery of no longer looking at nothing but the back of someone else's head.

Follow your own advice.

I can back up everything I say. You can't.


Dude, you cited fucking newsmax. Newsmax! Who the fuck cites newsmax and expects to be taken seriously?

Dude, the newmax link has an audio with Clinton himself talking about the reasons he passed up on Sudan's offer. It's called internal documentation.
 
If that moron Bill Clinton simply accepted Sudan's offer to take bin Laden into custody, we wouldn't be trying to find him in whatever cave he is hiding in now.


Sudan never offered bin laden to the US. First you didn't know about secret prisons and now this?

(you might benefit by a posting break to go get informed on some basic issues)

:lol: You are funny.

If you click on the audio link in this link you can hear clinton making excuses of why he turned down Sudan's offer of OBL.


On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role

On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role


Bill Clinton denies it now, but he once admitted he passed up an opportunity to extradite Osama bin Laden.

And NewsMax has the former President making the claim on audiotape. [You can listen to the tape yourself] -- Click Here

Clinton's comments and his actions relating to American efforts to capture bin Laden have taken on renewed interest because of claims made in a new ABC movie, the "Path to 9/11," that suggests Clinton dropped the ball during his presidency. Clinton has also angrily denied claims the Monica Lewinsky scandal drew his attention away from dealing with national security matters like capturing bin Laden.

...During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him."

But that wasn't exactly true. By 1996, the 9/11 mastermind had already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by prosecutors in New York.

Here is a more credible source: FactCheck.org: Did Bill Clinton pass up a chance to kill Osama bin Laden?


Blaming Clinton for not getting bin Laden is kind of like blaming Bush for not preventing 9/11: retarded.
 
My claim was correct. I am talking about the war regarding Al Qaida. Isn't this the subject of this thread.

I am not talking about any shooting that happened in America.

The only way you can make your claim that Bush kept us "safe" from terrorist attacks for 7 years is by grossly redefining the issue to the point of nonsensical. That same redefinition would throw out all of the "terrorist attacks" that occured under Obama as well, leaving only the Underwear Bomber.

And you have the audacity to try and dress down lefties for making political hay? :lol:

Hello? We are discussing the war with Al Qaida.

All 3 terrorist attacks in the US under Obama are linked to Al Qaida.

Actually, we're discussing the "War on Terrorism" which you are desperate to define as strictly a war with Al Queda.

The War on Terrorism (also known as the Global War on Terrorism or the War on Terror) is the common term for what the George W. Bush administration perceived or presented as the military, political, legal and ideological conflict against Islamic terrorism, Islamic militants and the regimes and organizations tied to them or that supported them, and was specifically used in reference to operations by the United States, the United Kingdom and its allies since the September 11, 2001 attacks.

It doesn't single out Al Queda.
 
Sudan never offered bin laden to the US. First you didn't know about secret prisons and now this?

(you might benefit by a posting break to go get informed on some basic issues)

:lol: You are funny.

If you click on the audio link in this link you can hear clinton making excuses of why he turned down Sudan's offer of OBL.


On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role

On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role


Bill Clinton denies it now, but he once admitted he passed up an opportunity to extradite Osama bin Laden.

And NewsMax has the former President making the claim on audiotape. [You can listen to the tape yourself] -- Click Here

Clinton's comments and his actions relating to American efforts to capture bin Laden have taken on renewed interest because of claims made in a new ABC movie, the "Path to 9/11," that suggests Clinton dropped the ball during his presidency. Clinton has also angrily denied claims the Monica Lewinsky scandal drew his attention away from dealing with national security matters like capturing bin Laden.

...During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him."

But that wasn't exactly true. By 1996, the 9/11 mastermind had already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by prosecutors in New York.

Here is a more credible source: FactCheck.org: Did Bill Clinton pass up a chance to kill Osama bin Laden?


Blaming Clinton for not getting bin Laden is kind of like blaming Bush for not preventing 9/11: retarded.

PUWEASE. Factcheck is a hard left organization, it's not even worth opening up.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2104053/posts

"The fact is, the ANNENBERG Public Policy Center (APPC), the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org, is itself supported by the same foundation, the ANNENBERG FOUNDATION, that Bill Ayers secured the 49.2 million dollars from to create the Chicago ANNENBERG Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board for and Ayers served as the grant writer of and co-Chair of for its two operating arms. "



Once again, the link I gave gives a link to the audio of Bill Clinton himself in a program talking about why he rejected Sudan's offer for Sudan to arrest and extradite OBL to America.

Do you believe Clinton admitting that he did it or didn't do it in this case?
 
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The only way you can make your claim that Bush kept us "safe" from terrorist attacks for 7 years is by grossly redefining the issue to the point of nonsensical. That same redefinition would throw out all of the "terrorist attacks" that occured under Obama as well, leaving only the Underwear Bomber.

And you have the audacity to try and dress down lefties for making political hay? :lol:

Hello? We are discussing the war with Al Qaida.

All 3 terrorist attacks in the US under Obama are linked to Al Qaida.

Actually, we're discussing the "War on Terrorism" which you are desperate to define as strictly a war with Al Queda.

The War on Terrorism (also known as the Global War on Terrorism or the War on Terror) is the common term for what the George W. Bush administration perceived or presented as the military, political, legal and ideological conflict against Islamic terrorism, Islamic militants and the regimes and organizations tied to them or that supported them, and was specifically used in reference to operations by the United States, the United Kingdom and its allies since the September 11, 2001 attacks.

It doesn't single out Al Queda.

Okay, I'll be more specific, I am only talking about Al Qaida attacks.

We had 3 Al Qaida terrorist attacks within the US in Obama's first year.

We had none for the previous seven years under Pres. Bush.
 

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