Wholly crap, stock market is going NUTS

[Couchpotato]

Posted in the morning, after his blustery speech to buy that day. Definitely market manipulation, at the very least. The question is, whether some got word before the public.

You are basically saying the President with his words or policy actions has an affect on the market. Yeah no shit. That doesnt make it manipulation. Unless you are contending that the reason he instituted the tariffs was to tank the market so that in 3 days he could rescind them and make a profit over that fluctuation. Is that your contention?

The damage to markets of his rash actions against markets in the US and across the worlds is incalculable, still at this time. Nobody is taking this lightly, as proven by reactions of the stock and bond markets, (dropping like a rock 5 our of 6 days in a row, only punctuated one day, when he reversed [temporarily at least]) forcing him to back down, rather than continue the immediate total destruction the markets, including all American businesses operating in this country and overseas. The erratic unpredictability, puts buyers, sellers, manufacturers, marketers totally unable to predict supply chains, products, parts, inventory to maintain, stock, even the value of existing inventories. It affects business planning at the most basic level. If you cannot predict costs, you cannot figure an accurate business plan, invest in inventories, or perform to existing plan. Winners and losers in the marketplace are at the whim of the government, rather than the needs and rules of supply and demand. I figure, we are probably fkd on average for the next 5 years, at least. Nobody can possibly trust us, to uphold economic agreements, as he proved, they mean nothing to him, and not for a minor case by case negotiations, but for all international agreements of any type.

All this is irrelevant to the discussion of whether the POTUS manipulated the market for his or some other group's benefit. You not liking his policy actions doesn't equate to criminal activity. The fact that the market is so tied to what the Federal Government does and even what the POTUS says is a problem with the market and its utter reliance on the Federal Government, not random policy initiatives, or tweets by POTUS. If POTUS says the US is going to set standards for green energy usage and limit fossil fuel consumption through various policy initiatives is he manipulating the market? Because he's sure as shit having an affect on it.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

You are basically saying the President with his words or policy actions has an affect on the market. Yeah no shit. That doesnt make it manipulation. Unless you are contending that the reason he instituted the tariffs was to tank the market so that in 3 days he could rescind them and make a profit over that fluctuation. Is that your contention?


All this is irrelevant to the discussion of whether the POTUS manipulated the market for his or some other group's benefit. You not liking his policy actions doesn't equate to criminal activity. The fact that the market is so tied to what the Federal Government does and even what the POTUS says is a problem with the market and its utter reliance on the Federal Government, not random policy initiatives, or tweets by POTUS. If POTUS says the US is going to set standards for green energy usage and limit fossil fuel consumption through various policy initiatives is he manipulating the market? Because he's sure as shit having an affect on it.

Stone cold logic --- NOT the strongpoint of lefists.

 

[White 6]

Just be sure to give Trump credit in two years if he has won with his tariff threats.

Will have to wait and see if our historic allies and trade partners will have anything to do with us or if we're stuck with Donny' new friends, Russia, Belarus, North Korea, and Cuba, you know, the ones he did not put tariffs on.

 

[ozro]

Will have to wait and see if our historic allies and trade partners will have anything to do with us or if we're stuck with Donny' new friends, Russia, Belarus, North Korea, and Cuba, you know, the ones he did not put tariffs on.

I may regret asking, but what purpose would it serve to put tariffs on countries that we don't engage in trading with?
For example;
Attention Cuba! If we ever decide to let you sell sugar and cigars in the USA again there will be a trillion dollar a pound tariff on them.

 

[Couchpotato]

Will have to wait and see if our historic allies and trade partners will have anything to do with us or if we're stuck with Donny' new friends, Russia, Belarus, North Korea, and Cuba, you know, the ones he did not put tariffs on.

Dont you have to import shit from a country in order for a tariff to be remotely effective? Tell me all the things we import from Cuba, and NK, We aren't Europe who imported more LNG from Russia last year than any other time in history.....

 

[White 6]

You are basically saying the President with his words or policy actions has an affect on the market. Yeah no shit. That doesnt make it manipulation. Unless you are contending that the reason he instituted the tariffs was to tank the market so that in 3 days he could rescind them and make a profit over that fluctuation. Is that your contention?


All this is irrelevant to the discussion of whether the POTUS manipulated the market for his or some other group's benefit. You not liking his policy actions doesn't equate to criminal activity. The fact that the market is so tied to what the Federal Government does and even what the POTUS says is a problem with the market and its utter reliance on the Federal Government, not random policy initiatives, or tweets by POTUS. If POTUS says the US is going to set standards for green energy usage and limit fossil fuel consumption through various policy initiatives is he manipulating the market? Because he's sure as shit having an affect on it.

It would not surprise me. I knew Wednesday would be the day to buy back in and told one invester so, back on last Saturday night, knowing he could not hold out and actually kill all markets. I give the administration more credit than that, as any business major and bus grad, knew it, so I figure it was planned as a market manipulation. The choices seem to be a planned market manipulation or good old fashion total stupidity. So, does he seem like the kind that would manipulate or just a stupid old fool? Does anybody vote Both?

 

[Couchpotato]

It would not surprise me. I knew Wednesday would be the day to buy back in and told one invester so, back on last Saturday night, knowing he could not hold out and actually kill all markets. I give the administration more credit than that, as any business major and bus grad, knew it, so I figure it was planned as a market manipulation. The choices seem to be a planned market manipulation or good old fashion total stupidity. So, does he seem like the kind that would manipulate or just a stupid old fool? Does anybody vote Both?

So your proof is just that you don't like the person and the policy and from there attribute criminality.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Lets be honest, you support Trump, no matter what he does, even if it tanks the stock market and takes more bucks out your pocket than you ever pay in normal income taxes. You drank the Kool-Aid, dude.

If you don't sell, how much did you really lose? Nothing much!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump cut cancer research funding, however.

Bullshit! He cut wasteful administrative costs and restricted the grants to paying for actual research!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So your proof is just that you don't like the person and the policy and from there attribute criminality.

He's just another TDS victim.

 

[White 6]

So your proof is just that you don't like the person and the policy and from there attribute criminality.

Proof? Replying with a statement starting with a sentence "It would not surprise me."? Heck, it would not surprise me, if there were a shooter on the grassy knoll. It would not surprise me, if Ronald Reagan knew a Lt Col, working out of his basement every day was selling US cruse missiles to Iran to finance a small war, Congress had bitpartison voted, the US should not be in, should not send troops to, nor should US taxes be used to fund. I simply don't put much faith in coincidence at my age. But, looks like there will be an investigation, if it can't be covered up and blame shifted elsewhere. I hear MTG made a killing on the timing of when to sell and buy back in.

 

[White 6]

If you don't sell, how much did you really lose? Nothing much!

Your gamble. Whether you take it, should depend on your financial situation and age. I learned that the hard way, back in the Bush Crash.

 

[Couchpotato]

Proof? Replying with a statement starting with a sentence "It would not surprise me."? Heck, it would not surprise me, if there were a shooter on the grassy knoll. It would not surprise me, if Ronald Reagan knew a Lt Col, working out of his basement every day was selling US cruse missiles to Iran to finance a small war, Congress had bitpartison voted, the US should not be in, should not send troops to, nor should US taxes be used to fund. I simply don't put much faith in coincidence at my age. But, looks like there will be an investigation, if it can't be covered up and blame shifted elsewhere. I hear MTG made a killing on the timing of when to sell and buy back in.

Yeah you know some kind of evidence to back up your wild accusations other than "I dont like the policy or the person enacting it". Crazy I know. I dont like this tariff policy either but that's a long long way from attributing criminality to it. Are we all going to start caring about a member of Congress making a killing in the market now? I guess so because of who's making that money.

I dont remember seeing you whining in 2023...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Your gamble. Whether you take it, should depend on your financial situation and age. I learned that the hard way, back in the Bush Crash.

I didn't have much choice and lost mine under Brandon.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Proof? Replying with a statement starting with a sentence "It would not surprise me."? Heck, it would not surprise me, if there were a shooter on the grassy knoll. It would not surprise me, if Ronald Reagan knew a Lt Col, working out of his basement every day was selling US cruse missiles to Iran to finance a small war, Congress had bitpartison voted, the US should not be in, should not send troops to, nor should US taxes be used to fund. I simply don't put much faith in coincidence at my age. But, looks like there will be an investigation, if it can't be covered up and blame shifted elsewhere. I hear MTG made a killing on the timing of when to sell and buy back in.

You really need some better material. The lies are wearing thin.

 

[Flopper]

I may regret asking, but what purpose would it serve to put tariffs on countries that we don't engage in trading with?
For example;
Attention Cuba! If we ever decide to let you sell sugar and cigars in the USA again there will be a trillion dollar a pound tariff on them.

None really other possibly since message you don't want to trade with this. This what so silly about every expanding number countries is negotiating. There about dozen countries in which we have a significant amount of trade. The reman

Dont you have to import shit from a country in order for a tariff to be remotely effective? Tell me all the things we import from Cuba, and NK, We aren't Europe who imported more LNG from Russia last year than any other time in history.....

Putting tariffs on countries you do not trade with does not make much sense. Only about a dozens or so countries have a trade volume with the US that exceeds .05% of our total trade. So when Trump announced 70 countries called to negotiate, that's just to grab the headlines.

 

[White 6]

Yeah you know some kind of evidence to back up your wild accusations other than "I dont like the policy or the person enacting it". Crazy I know. I dont like this tariff policy either but that's a long long way from attributing criminality to it. Are we all going to start caring about a member of Congress making a killing in the market now? I guess so because of who's making that money.

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I dont remember seeing you whining in 2023...

Evidence is for charges, not statements of not being surprised.

 

[White 6]

I didn't have much choice and lost mine under Brandon.

I can see how that works. Lost mine under SonovaBush and after Obama elected, he didn't stop the bloodletting during his fist 2 months, though he did make quick headway on paying back, paying off, or propping up the ones that started it.

 

[White 6]

You really need some better material. The lies are wearing thin.

So, I am not easily surprised. Big deal.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Will have to wait and see if our historic allies and trade partners will have anything to do with us or if we're stuck with Donny' new friends, Russia, Belarus, North Korea, and Cuba, you know, the ones he did not put tariffs on.

Yes cause we have so many products coming from Cuba and North Korea and Russia. Target and Walmart are brimming with their stuff,

Good God man....