Who will end the tariff war quagmire?

[Orangecat]

now that we've become a predator nation,

By establishing the same tariffs on imports that other countries are charging on our exports? Doesn’t that make every nation a “predator nation”?

 

[SeaMajor7]

You did. Did you take your meds today?

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You illiterate fuck, I said to stop us getting ripped off, you fucking baboon. Try harder.

 

[whitehall]

Typical leftie propaganda. An unflattering photo of the President substitutes for intelligent discussion. Foreign countries have been shitting on Uncle Sam with unfair trade practices since FDR and the left would rather surrender than fix the problem.

 

[BluesLegend]

Who left the hand grenades in the playpen?

The irresponsible, erratic and sporadic tariffmania that is wreaking havoc with the global economy must be stopped.

Hey shit for brains, the tariff war has been raging for decades as other countries hammered us with tariffs while ripping us off, stealing our jobs and entire industries. All Trump is doing is fighting back. So all you assholes can go F yourselves.

 

[Zincwarrior]

By establishing the same tariffs on imports that other countries are charging on our exports? Doesn’t that make every nation a “predator nation”?

Thats not what trump's tariffs are. They are not equal tariffs. They are a mathematical function of the trade imbalance.

Lets take Mexico. We had a free trade agreement with Mexico. Defacto 0 tariffs. What does Trump want?

 

[Orangecat]

Thats not what trump's tariffs are.

Look up the word “reciprocal”. Trump is preventing countries that tariff our exports from sneaking in through a 3rd country with more favorable trade status. This isn’t rocket science.

 

[schmidlap]

1. Look at the $/Euro over time and there is no concern. ken Griffin must be shorting the market, meh.
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The stock market dropped, not a big deal. Fair trade with more US manufacturing is more than worth it. Here is the 1-year DOW chart, bouncing up and down, eventually it will keep going up as the US trade deals take effect. It wasn't even a big dip. Definitely not a "grim" outcome.

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Your devotion to Trump is unquestionable.

In economic matters, I rather defer to the consensus of those who understand the harm his policies are wreaking based upon the empirical reality.

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The IMF downgraded its projection for global gross domestic product (GDP) growth to 2.8 percent growth in 2025, down from a forecast of 3.3 percent in January.​

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U.S. growth projections were marked down to 1.8 percent growth from 2.7 percent growth, and expectations for the output of advanced economies were pulled down to 1.4 percent from 1.9 percent.​

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The markdown reflects “tariff rates to levels not seen in a century and a highly unpredictable environment,” IMF economists said....​

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Major policy shifts are resetting the global trade system and giving rise to uncertainty that is once again testing the resilience of the global economy,” IMF economists said.​

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Other economic organizations have made similar observations in recent weeks, including the Federal Reserve, which has made predictions of slower growth and faster price increases as a result of U.S. tariff policies.​

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https://thehill.com/business/5260404-century-high-tariff-impact/

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Here's Trump as a presidential candidate in 2024:

"We're going to bring prices way down,
and we're going to get it done fast!"​

Here's Trump as president in 2025:

"I couldn't care less if [automakers] raise prices.
"I couldn't care less. I hope they raise their prices!"

MSN

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[schmidlap]

Hey shit for brains, the tariff war has been raging for decades as other countries hammered us with tariffs while ripping us off, stealing our jobs and entire industries. All Trump is doing is fighting back. So all you assholes can go F yourselves.

Your refusal to acknowledge the impact Trump's erratic tariff policies are having on the economy is taken for what it is worth.

 

[Orangecat]

Your devotion to Trump is unquestionable.

As is your TDS.

 

[BluesLegend]

Your refusal to acknowledge the impact Trump's erratic tariff policies are having on the economy is taken for what it is worth.

Dumb ass, why don't you acknowledge the impact of other countries tariffs on the U.S., or piss off home to China or whatever shithole country you are from.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Look up the word “reciprocal”. Trump is preventing countries that tariff our exports from sneaking in through a 3rd country with more favorable trade status. This isn’t rocket science.

Its not reciprocal. Its literally based on the trade deficit per country. Otherwise I would strongly agree with you. To be clear, I am personally understanding the tariffs on China. Thats a special case.

 

[kyzr]

What is the goal? Getting rid of tariffs or having higher tariffs?

Depends who you talk to.
Navarro wanted higher tariffs for the added revenue, but Bessent wants low tariffs so we don't get higher prices and more inflation, lower inflation means the Fed can cut rates which helps everything.

 

[wamose]

So the goal is to get rid of tariffs? You know that tariffs were in the single digits when Trump 1.0 took office - about 6/7%? He raised them to double digits in his 1.0 term to around 13%. Then he raised them to triple digits in Trump 2.0 to 145%. If the goal is stopping tariffs why did he start them?

I'm not surprised in the least that you don't get it. The only thing I can't figure out is if you're blinded by liberalism, TDS or just plain stupidity.

 

[kyzr]

Your devotion to Trump is unquestionable.
In economic matters, I rather defer to the consensus of those who understand the harm his policies are wreaking based upon the empirical reality.

The IMF downgraded its projection for global gross domestic product (GDP) growth to 2.8 percent growth in 2025, down from a forecast of 3.3 percent in January.​

OK, I don't have a dog in the "global growth" fight. I want fair trade and fair tariffs. What shakes out shakes out.

U.S. growth projections were marked down to 1.8 percent growth from 2.7 percent growth, and expectations for the output of advanced economies were pulled down to 1.4% from 1.9%.​

The markdown reflects “tariff rates to levels not seen in a century and a highly unpredictable environment,” IMF economists said....​

Those projections are based on temporary tariffs, not the final as-negotiated tariffs yet to come. Lets talk in December.

Major policy shifts are resetting the global trade system and giving rise to uncertainty that is once again testing the resilience of the global economy,” IMF economists said.​

True.

Other economic organizations have made similar observations in recent weeks, including the Federal Reserve, which has made predictions of slower growth and faster price increases as a result of U.S. tariff policies.​

The Fed is very political, it is wrong more than it is right.
We'll see what happens when they finally start lowering interest rates.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Depends who you talk to.
Navarro wanted higher tariffs for the added revenue, but Bessent wants low tariffs so we don't get higher prices and more inflation, lower inflation means the Fed can cut rates which helps everything.

Trump bounces between "bringing back jobs," "getting goodly deals," and "making lots of money for the government," depending on what hour it is .

 

[kyzr]

Trump bounces between "bringing back jobs," "getting goodly deals," and "making lots of money for the government," depending on what hour it is .

Yep. Depends who he talked to last. The good news is that he's not formulating the policies himself.

 

[schmidlap]

As is your TDS.

Trump's devotees have been trained to deny inconvenient, documented reality, and attack anyone who cites it because it does not support their veneration of their lord and master.

 

[Orangecat]

Trump's devotees have been trained to deny inconvenient, documented reality, and attack anyone who cites it because it does not support their veneration of their lord and master.

You sound like a dingbat.

 

[citygator]

Depends who you talk to.
Navarro wanted higher tariffs for the added revenue, but Bessent wants low tariffs so we don't get higher prices and more inflation, lower inflation means the Fed can cut rates which helps everything.

I guess I am looking for the administration's stated goals since they are driving this... or at least what you think their objective is.

 

[schmidlap]

Dumb ass, why don't you acknowledge the impact of other countries tariffs on the U.S., or piss off home to China or whatever shithole country you are from.

The United States became the most powerful and prosperous nation of earth by the policies it established after WWII.

Please feel free to document "the impact of other countries' tariffs on the U.S" if you believe that somehow mitigates the devastating impact of Trump's tariff perversion on the U.S.

Most Americans get it. Trump worshippers can't handle it.

Nearly two-thirds of Americans disapprove of Trump tariffs,
with inflation a broad concern: POLL​