who was best president of usa ?

[Book of Jeremiah]

Lincoln was the gold standard for US Presidents.

Lincoln did what he could at a difficult time. However, he destroyed states rights and sent the US on a path to tyranny. Not anywhere near the best.

I disagree.

Lincoln had to govern in war. Not just any war. A civil war. He had to make decisions that would win the war and keep America together.

It wasn't easy.

Was he perfect? Hell no but the decisions he made saved America and that's why I think he was the gold standard for Presidents.

True. I'll have to vote for him now. Seeing as Washington isn't on the poll. Thanks.

 

[Camp]

Japan and Germany declared war on America because they felt confident in that course rather than compromising with America.
Because FDR kept our military weak and unthreatening. Like Obama.

I think you are a little deluded. Germany and Japan were already in a state of war. The US simply joined a war that was already in progress.

FDR lied the US into war!
FDR attacked a country that did not attack the US.
FDR locked up Americans and gave them loyalty tests..
FDR created the infamous Military Industrial complex.

Silly far left drones still se this man as their Messiah!

No, he didn't. What lie?
No, he didn't. What country?
It wasn't a test, it was an oath of allegiance and promise not to support
the Japanese government. Those who refused were sent to one particular camp.
They were released at the end of the war.
There is no way to know if he would have allowed the MIC since he died before the
end of the war. What kind of restrictions he may or may not have imposed is pure
speculation.

No amount of proof changes you. You know what that means about your mental state?

FDR instigated the Japanese attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn the commanders, then took the nation to war on false pretenses. That makes him tied with dishonest Abe as the WORST POTUS OF ALL TIME. ACCEPT THE TRUTH...IT IS TIME TO GROW UP.

You, as usual, can not back up your conspiracy theories with anything but your one sided opinions and distortions of reality. For folks who promote these ideas, the USA's refusal to be bullied or extorted into facilitating horrendous war crimes was in your minds, "instigating a Japanese attack"
If a number of key mistakes hadn't been made, the Japanese attack would have been a miserable failure. FDR refused to be pushed around by Germany or Japan. Your fantasies have been promoted since Dec. 8th 1941 and still don't hold weight. All the investigations and scholarly academic works classify your conspiracy theories as unprovable speculative fantasy. 75 years of exciting and dramatic "NEW" conspiracy theories that in the end are just a rewriting of the same old nonsense.

 

[gipper]

Japan and Germany declared war on America because they felt confident in that course rather than compromising with America.
Because FDR kept our military weak and unthreatening. Like Obama.

I think you are a little deluded. Germany and Japan were already in a state of war. The US simply joined a war that was already in progress.

FDR lied the US into war!
FDR attacked a country that did not attack the US.
FDR locked up Americans and gave them loyalty tests..
FDR created the infamous Military Industrial complex.

Silly far left drones still se this man as their Messiah!

No, he didn't. What lie?
No, he didn't. What country?
It wasn't a test, it was an oath of allegiance and promise not to support
the Japanese government. Those who refused were sent to one particular camp.
They were released at the end of the war.
There is no way to know if he would have allowed the MIC since he died before the
end of the war. What kind of restrictions he may or may not have imposed is pure
speculation.

No amount of proof changes you. You know what that means about your mental state?

FDR instigated the Japanese attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn the commanders, then took the nation to war on false pretenses. That makes him tied with dishonest Abe as the WORST POTUS OF ALL TIME. ACCEPT THE TRUTH...IT IS TIME TO GROW UP.

You, as usual, can not back up your conspiracy theories with anything but your one sided opinions and distortions of reality. For folks who promote these ideas, the USA's refusal to be bullied or extorted into facilitating horrendous war crimes was in your minds, "instigating a Japanese attack"
If a number of key mistakes hadn't been made, the Japanese attack would have been a miserable failure. FDR refused to be pushed around by Germany or Japan. Your fantasies have been promoted since Dec. 8th 1941 and still don't hold weight. All the investigations and scholarly academic works classify your conspiracy theories as unprovable speculative fantasy. 75 years of exciting and dramatic "NEW" conspiracy theories that in the end are just a rewriting of the same old nonsense.

Backed up numerous times. You just refuse to face facts, which indicates some kind of mental illness.

 

[Camp]

I think you are a little deluded. Germany and Japan were already in a state of war. The US simply joined a war that was already in progress.

FDR lied the US into war!
FDR attacked a country that did not attack the US.
FDR locked up Americans and gave them loyalty tests..
FDR created the infamous Military Industrial complex.

Silly far left drones still se this man as their Messiah!

No, he didn't. What lie?
No, he didn't. What country?
It wasn't a test, it was an oath of allegiance and promise not to support
the Japanese government. Those who refused were sent to one particular camp.
They were released at the end of the war.
There is no way to know if he would have allowed the MIC since he died before the
end of the war. What kind of restrictions he may or may not have imposed is pure
speculation.

No amount of proof changes you. You know what that means about your mental state?

FDR instigated the Japanese attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn the commanders, then took the nation to war on false pretenses. That makes him tied with dishonest Abe as the WORST POTUS OF ALL TIME. ACCEPT THE TRUTH...IT IS TIME TO GROW UP.

You, as usual, can not back up your conspiracy theories with anything but your one sided opinions and distortions of reality. For folks who promote these ideas, the USA's refusal to be bullied or extorted into facilitating horrendous war crimes was in your minds, "instigating a Japanese attack"
If a number of key mistakes hadn't been made, the Japanese attack would have been a miserable failure. FDR refused to be pushed around by Germany or Japan. Your fantasies have been promoted since Dec. 8th 1941 and still don't hold weight. All the investigations and scholarly academic works classify your conspiracy theories as unprovable speculative fantasy. 75 years of exciting and dramatic "NEW" conspiracy theories that in the end are just a rewriting of the same old nonsense.

Backed up numerous times. You just refuse to face facts, which indicates some kind of mental illness.

You haven't backed up anything. You are just saying that. Who is the writer and which book do you claim offers proof of your allegations you are making?

 

[CremeBrulee]

No option for other or none of the above.

My favorites are (no particular order) Presidents Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, and probably John Quincy Adams.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Adams was a great president! Good choices!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Lincoln was the gold standard for US Presidents.

During his time in office, Lincoln was one of the most unpopular presidents in US history.

 

[Rustic]

JFK. His name comes up in all these type polls even in the media on tv and he was only in office 2 and 1/2 years. The lost potential.

...and a murderer, being corrupt in every way

 

[Rustic]

Lincoln was the gold standard for US Presidents.

During his time in office, Lincoln was one of the most unpopular presidents in US history.

 

[Rustic]

Japan and Germany declared war on America because they felt confident in that course rather than compromising with America.
Because FDR kept our military weak and unthreatening. Like Obama.

I think you are a little deluded. Germany and Japan were already in a state of war. The US simply joined a war that was already in progress.

FDR lied the US into war!
FDR attacked a country that did not attack the US.
FDR locked up Americans and gave them loyalty tests..
FDR created the infamous Military Industrial complex.

Silly far left drones still se this man as their Messiah!

No, he didn't. What lie?
No, he didn't. What country?
It wasn't a test, it was an oath of allegiance and promise not to support
the Japanese government. Those who refused were sent to one particular camp.
They were released at the end of the war.
There is no way to know if he would have allowed the MIC since he died before the
end of the war. What kind of restrictions he may or may not have imposed is pure
speculation.

No amount of proof changes you. You know what that means about your mental state?

FDR instigated the Japanese attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn the commanders, then took the nation to war on false pretenses. That makes him tied with dishonest Abe as the WORST POTUS OF ALL TIME. ACCEPT THE TRUTH...IT IS TIME TO GROW UP.

You, as usual, can not back up your conspiracy theories with anything but your one sided opinions and distortions of reality. For folks who promote these ideas, the USA's refusal to be bullied or extorted into facilitating horrendous war crimes was in your minds, "instigating a Japanese attack"
If a number of key mistakes hadn't been made, the Japanese attack would have been a miserable failure. FDR refused to be pushed around by Germany or Japan. Your fantasies have been promoted since Dec. 8th 1941 and still don't hold weight. All the investigations and scholarly academic works classify your conspiracy theories as unprovable speculative fantasy. 75 years of exciting and dramatic "NEW" conspiracy theories that in the end are just a rewriting of the same old nonsense.

Your silly hero worship is misguided...
FDR was a rotten president... We as a country are paying every day for his corruption.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Maybe you should.

Here's the thing. The Great Depression was a World Wide Depression, and EVERY Country did what FDR did, and that was to greatly expand the reach of government into all aspects of the economy and increase government spending.

Our entry into World War II allowed FDR to do what he really wanted to do all along- Tax the snot out of the rich, spend the money on infrastructure, nationalize key aspects of the economy. The end result of that was an economic boom that lasted until 1970s'.

Even Republican Presidents - Ike, Nixon and Ford- knew well enough to not **** with this arrangement.

FDR was a worthless piece of shit. Our entry, and not FDR, is what got us out of the Great Depression. Anyone that says otherwise is a fool and hasn't studied history.

only to rightwingnut pond scum who get their info from other rightwingnut pond scum.

He was good only to freeloaders who think someone else should support them.

I wish some of you lousey pricks had been around back in the 30's when men were working in the field 12 hours for $0.75. We'd get a chance to see if you're really as self sustaining as you pretend to be. Hoover made such a goddam mess of the economy that it was over ten years before things really got straightened out.

Where'd you get your fact you "lousy" dummy?
12 hours x 5 days is 60 hours X $00.75 equals $45/week X 52 weeks equals $2,340!
Dirty 30s - Prices & Wages
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That was $.75 a DAY!

My father plowed corn when he was 11 years old for $.25 a day to help feed his family.

 

[Rustic]

 

[Unkotare]

How horny do you have to be to plow corn?

 

[Unkotare]

Oh look, it's the OTHER guy who threw people in concentration camps during WWII.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

why nobody didnt vote barak obama.?
it is wierd

He sucks!

 

[Rustic]

why nobody didnt vote barak obama.?
it is wierd

He sucks!

...and he's a racist and a charlatan

 

[my2¢]

I cast my vote for the other Roosevelt - Teddy.

 

[Camp]

I think you are a little deluded. Germany and Japan were already in a state of war. The US simply joined a war that was already in progress.

FDR lied the US into war!
FDR attacked a country that did not attack the US.
FDR locked up Americans and gave them loyalty tests..
FDR created the infamous Military Industrial complex.

Silly far left drones still se this man as their Messiah!

No, he didn't. What lie?
No, he didn't. What country?
It wasn't a test, it was an oath of allegiance and promise not to support
the Japanese government. Those who refused were sent to one particular camp.
They were released at the end of the war.
There is no way to know if he would have allowed the MIC since he died before the
end of the war. What kind of restrictions he may or may not have imposed is pure
speculation.

No amount of proof changes you. You know what that means about your mental state?

FDR instigated the Japanese attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn the commanders, then took the nation to war on false pretenses. That makes him tied with dishonest Abe as the WORST POTUS OF ALL TIME. ACCEPT THE TRUTH...IT IS TIME TO GROW UP.

You, as usual, can not back up your conspiracy theories with anything but your one sided opinions and distortions of reality. For folks who promote these ideas, the USA's refusal to be bullied or extorted into facilitating horrendous war crimes was in your minds, "instigating a Japanese attack"
If a number of key mistakes hadn't been made, the Japanese attack would have been a miserable failure. FDR refused to be pushed around by Germany or Japan. Your fantasies have been promoted since Dec. 8th 1941 and still don't hold weight. All the investigations and scholarly academic works classify your conspiracy theories as unprovable speculative fantasy. 75 years of exciting and dramatic "NEW" conspiracy theories that in the end are just a rewriting of the same old nonsense.

Your silly hero worship is misguided...
FDR was a rotten president... We as a country are paying every day for his corruption.

Yet when asked to provide factual evidence, folks like you are lost and only able to parrot opinions while his supporters are able to provide reams and endless links and provable data to explain why he is judged one of the best and most favored Presidents. Just like on this very page. Lots of talking until challenged to provide even a minimum of data and the talkers vanish. And you are the same. Only able to babble out a lame opinion but unable to provide any data to give your opinion credibility or even an academic reason for reaching your opinions about FDR. You just blindly parrot the talking points you have been provided.

 

[JoeB131]

No amount of proof changes you. You know what that means about your mental state?

FDR instigated the Japanese attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn the commanders, then took the nation to war on false pretenses. That makes him tied with dishonest Abe as the WORST POTUS OF ALL TIME. ACCEPT THE TRUTH...IT IS TIME TO GROW UP.

wow, Libertarians are sooooooo ******* crazy. It's just hilarious to watch the combination of crazy and hate for the modern world.

I would like to confine Libertarians to a anarchist colony with no modern technology. That would be funny when they resort to cannibalism after half of them die of dysentery.

 

[Unkotare]

I cast my vote for the other Roosevelt - Teddy.

He screwed over Korea.