Who makes up the 20 million "uninsured" now on Obamacare? MEDICAID eligibles Before ACA!

Per capita health costs haven’t risen as a portion of per capita income in the U.S. since the ACA passed 15 years ago. That abrupt halt came after half a century of steadily rising and eating up more and more of people’s incomes.

If health care has become less affordable for people over that period, that’s a story of rising income inequality, not rising health care costs.
I take it in your in the business? If so wherever state you're in have the insurance companies released off exchange rates? Here in Florida the increases so far have been anywhere between 27% to 43%. I don't know how the state regulators even approved these damn things.
 
But did she say managed care that had been for decades was ending? Back in 2009-2010 I didn't watch hardly any news and did not have fox, cnn, or msnbc and still don't. Just basic cable here. I pay attention to insurance journals and forums. But all the dems had it in for insurance companies and pretty much still do. The pubs loved the insurance companies back then and most still do.
That was her bait and switch to get it passed... no one wanted it but the elected elite... insurance companies use to donate to republicans that changed after the ACA...
 
That was her bait and switch to get it passed... no one wanted it but the elected elite... insurance companies use to donate to republicans that changed after the ACA...
Oh, no that's not true. Insurance companies do donate to both parties but much more to the republicans at least here in Florida they do.
 
Oh, no that's not true. Insurance companies do donate to both parties but much more to the republicans at least here in Florida they do.
Who gets the most from them?... its democrats...
Are you even a citizen living in the USA?...
Healthcare costs are out of control and so is student loans... both of which Obama "fixed"....
 
Who gets the most from them?... its democrats...
Are you even a citizen living in the USA?...
Healthcare costs are out of control and so is student loans... both of which Obama "fixed"....
Sometimes living in Florida seems like a foreign country but no born and raised in Michigan in 1948. Have no idea what obama did with student loans, never had one or needed one or do I give a shit. My kids and I paid for their own education and all my grandkids worked and paid for most of their college with the exception of scholarships.
 
Who gets the most from them?... its democrats...
Are you even a citizen living in the USA?...
Healthcare costs are out of control and so is student loans... both of which Obama "fixed"....
No, the republicans receive the most from insurance companies.
 
yes, millions of illegals would lose their free medical coverage. Why should we care?
Please document your erroneous assumption.

Why do you imagine that people ineligible for coverage under law are enjoying free healthcare under Trump?



Of course, Republicans are trying to pass their bill that would eliminate coverage for millions of Americans on Medicaid, and presently eligible for ACA premium assistance.
 
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None of which that 20mm who did not have it before have it now.

No one can ever get around that figure.

Why do you think the GOP is going to have a government program to replace it.

We are not going back to the bad old days.
"We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children," President Obama told doctors in a speech before the American Medical Association in Chicago in June.
THAT lie was because..
A) 11 million of the 46 million were illegals FACT:
...undocumented immigrants are generally not eligible for Obamacare (the Affordable Care Act) health insurance or Medicaid
B) of the then 35 million, 14 million were eligible for Medicaid.. they didn't know they were covered!
Nearly six in ten (14.5 million) uninsured individuals in 2023 were eligible for financial assistance either through Medicaid or through ... Key Facts about the Uninsured Population | KFF

Do you understand that Obama's LIE of 46 million was believed by people like you and you didn't do any fact checking!
AGAIN read the facts that 11 million were illegals, 14 million were eligible for Medicaid and IN FACT after Obamacare went into affect... HERE is what happened according to Obama's health care architect!
Even Obamacare's chief Architect agrees Obama's statement was a lie!
ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public

"it took the stupidity of the American voter'..
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber. The guy dubbed the “Obamacare architect” is a viral YouTube sensation. A few months back, he was caught on tape admitting that Obamacare doesn’t provide subsidies for federally-run insurance exchanges; it's now the topic of a new case before the Supreme Court. Today, new video surfaced in which Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. “That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,” said Gruber. “But I’d rather have this law than not.” In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.
Now the reality of Medicaid under Obamacare?
Another FACT from Gruber: who said ...
" using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid “produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
63% of the enrollees WERE ALREADY ELIGIBLE BEFORE OBAMACARE! Do you understand?
These 63% never knew they were eligible BEFORE Obamacare... why didn't Obamacare concentrate on USING existing Medicaid allocations to get these 63% enrolled BEFORE creating the gigantic wasteful Obamacare?
Obama's lie has been totally exposed:
"46 million uninsured"was not the whole truth,
 
You need to THINK!

A nation's good health is a national security issue.

You are part of the "stupid" group who thinks the numbers are phony.

THINK!
Funny but I suppled FACTS that show the numbers ARE not phony but totally MISIDENTIFIED AS UNINSURED!
FACT:"We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children," President Obama told doctors in a speech before the American Medical Association in Chicago in June.

THAT lie was because..
A) 11 million of the 46 million were illegals FACT:
...undocumented immigrants are generally not eligible for Obamacare (the Affordable Care Act) health insurance or Medicaid
Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for health insurance plans through the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace or for federal subsidies to help pay for them,
B) of the then 35 million, 14 million were eligible for Medicaid.. they didn't know they were covered!
Nearly six in ten (14.5 million) uninsured individuals in 2023 were eligible for financial assistance either through Medicaid or through ... Key Facts about the Uninsured Population | KFF
Do YOU comprehend that? Without starting Obamacare, all that needed to be done was to get those 14 million that were (and now I'm shouting!)
TELL THESE 14 MILLION THAT THEY HAVE COVERAGE!
- 11 million Undocumented illegals are not eligible..
- 14 million are eligible already so why waste $$ adding Obamacare???
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25 million either not eligible or are and don't know it means there is less than 21 million...not 46 million!!!
40% of 46 million is 18 million of the 46 million leaving the actually needed health insurance of less than 5 million!
I'm shouting again..
5 million truly uninsured Americans VS Obama's lie of 46 million!
FACTS folks!
 
Please document your erroneous assumption.

Why do you imagine that people ineligible for coverage under law are enjoying free healthcare under Trump?



Of course, Republicans are trying to pass their bill that would eliminate coverage for millions of Americans on Medicaid, and presently eligible for ACA premium assistance.
The dems are not allowing the govt to reopen because they insist that an ACA supplement be included that would provide medical care for illegals. it's no secret.
 
The dems are not allowing the govt to reopen because they insist that an ACA supplement be included that would provide medical care for illegals. it's no secret.
You merely parrot the debunked GOP lie, and are unable to document Democrats making any such demand.

Please respect the truth:


The "One Big Beautiful Bill" is expected to lead to 17 million Americans losing health insurance coverage by 2034. This includes 12 million Medicaid enrollees and 5 million people affected by changes in the Affordable Care Act marketplace coverage. The bill's provisions, such as requiring most adults under 65 to work, train, or volunteer for at least 80 hours per month, could result in significant increases in out-of-pocket healthcare costs and lapses in coverage for vulnerable Americans...

Democrats didn't shut down government to fund health care for 'illegal aliens.'

Democrats' stated top priority was an extension on tax credits that millions of Americans use to buy health insurance. The Democrats' proposal did not change the U.S. law that prohibits people in the country illegally from receiving federally subsidized health care coverage.
 
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"We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children," President Obama told doctors in a speech before the American Medical Association in Chicago in June.
THAT lie was because..
A) 11 million of the 46 million were illegals FACT:
...undocumented immigrants are generally not eligible for Obamacare (the Affordable Care Act) health insurance or Medicaid
B) of the then 35 million, 14 million were eligible for Medicaid.. they didn't know they were covered!
Nearly six in ten (14.5 million) uninsured individuals in 2023 were eligible for financial assistance either through Medicaid or through ... Key Facts about the Uninsured Population | KFF

Do you understand that Obama's LIE of 46 million was believed by people like you and you didn't do any fact checking!
AGAIN read the facts that 11 million were illegals, 14 million were eligible for Medicaid and IN FACT after Obamacare went into affect... HERE is what happened according to Obama's health care architect!
Even Obamacare's chief Architect agrees Obama's statement was a lie!
ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public

"it took the stupidity of the American voter'..
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber. The guy dubbed the “Obamacare architect” is a viral YouTube sensation. A few months back, he was caught on tape admitting that Obamacare doesn’t provide subsidies for federally-run insurance exchanges; it's now the topic of a new case before the Supreme Court. Today, new video surfaced in which Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. “That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,” said Gruber. “But I’d rather have this law than not.” In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.
Now the reality of Medicaid under Obamacare?
Another FACT from Gruber: who said ...
" using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid “produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
63% of the enrollees WERE ALREADY ELIGIBLE BEFORE OBAMACARE! Do you understand?
These 63% never knew they were eligible BEFORE Obamacare... why didn't Obamacare concentrate on USING existing Medicaid allocations to get these 63% enrolled BEFORE creating the gigantic wasteful Obamacare?
Obama's lie has been totally exposed:
"46 million uninsured"was not the whole truth,
Republicans have finally abandoned their lie about coverage for illegals, and have been forced to confront Trump's bill consigning millions of Americans to the ranks of the uninsured.

A group of House Republicans is calling on Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., to deal with expiring Obamacare subsidies immediately after the government shutdown ends.
Thirteen House GOP lawmakers, led by Reps. Jeff Van Drew, R-N.J., and Jen Kiggans, R-Va., are leading a letter to Johnson on Tuesday thanking him for his leadership during the shutdown but maintaining that Obamacare must also be dealt with before the end of the year.
Republicans cannot admit they are conceding to Democratic demands, but they will be conceding to Democratic demands.

 
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The dems are not allowing the govt to reopen because they insist that an ACA supplement be included that would provide medical care for illegals. it's no secret.
It's a lie.

That is why you are unable to document any such demand.
 
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The dems are not allowing the govt to reopen because they insist that an ACA supplement be included that would provide medical care for illegals. it's no secret.
Mindlessly parroting your lie with no documentation is futile.
 
But 14 million didn't know they were eligible BEFORE Obamacare? Who's fault was that the LAW???
Who ran Medicaid? Obama!

And you also conveniently forget the 18 million UNDER 34 years old that didn't WANT much less NEED health insurance!
But you people just don't seem to comprehend what and HOW insurance works.
Then there are the 10 million illegals that were counted as part of the 46 million number Obama used to get those Americans as
Gruber required "the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass."
ObamaCare architect: 'Stupidity' of voters helped bill pass
Really Jake? Are you part of that "stupidity" group that believed those phony numbers?
Finally we keep hearing about the "millions of Americans" now covered who couldn't because of "pre-existing conditions"!
Jake... HOW MANY MILLIONS???
FACT: a total of LESS THEN 1.5 million Americans who were denied health insurance or paid higher premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Obama's Pre-existing Conditions Whopper
Barrycare did away with catastrophic plans young people liked. Barry didn’t think they were good enough for them.

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan”-Barry Hussein Obama.
 
The dems are not allowing the govt to reopen because they insist that an ACA supplement be included that would provide medical care for illegals. it's no secret.
Where's your link to prove that? Never heard of an ACA supplement and I suspect neither have you.
 
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