Dragon
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Then WHAT THE HELL GOOD was the 1991 CEASE FIRE?
It ended the Persian Gulf War, of course.
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Then WHAT THE HELL GOOD was the 1991 CEASE FIRE?
Bush?
Did Bush plant IEDs?
Did Bush plant bombs on the children so when US soldiers handing candy the kids and soldiers were blow apart? Was that Bush's fault?
Did Bush plant the bombs in the Mosques.. the schools?
I've got a question for you. The terrorists who did all of that killing - were they there BEFORE we invaded Iraq? Saddam was a bastard; but he did not have AQ running rampant inside his country blowing his citizens to pieces. That only occurred AFTER we invaded and destabilized the the region. So, no, Bush didn't plant the IEDs, but his unnecessary war was the reason that AQ was there blowing up US troops and Iraqi civilians. Sorry, that's just how it works. Unless you want to tell me that Obama is not responsible for any bad that happens on HIS watch?..... Didn't think so.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone in this thread other than the original poster believe his claim (from the cartoon he posted) that Obama, Kerry, Murtha, and Reid recruited terrorists terrorists to kill 3,000 US troops
AS sure as the sun come up in the east,just as Bush's statement was dumb as it gets.
Harry Ried i, We have lost the war what do you think the enemy will do when he thinks he has us on the ropes?? WE all saw the results.
Giving other dumb ass's a pass just to fluff another dumb ass's statement isn't so bright.
Then maybe you should tell these "DUMB ASSES!"!
A Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT" asked:
"Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?
The short answer is YES!!!
Just out of curiosity, does anyone in this thread other than the original poster believe his claim (from the cartoon he posted) that Obama, Kerry, Murtha, and Reid recruited terrorists terrorists to kill 3,000 US troops
AS sure as the sun come up in the east,just as Bush's statement was dumb as it gets.
Harry Ried i, We have lost the war what do you think the enemy will do when he thinks he has us on the ropes?? WE all saw the results.
Giving other dumb ass's a pass just to fluff another dumb ass's statement isn't so bright.
Then maybe you should tell these "DUMB ASSES!"!
A Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT" asked:
"Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?
The short answer is YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.
STUDY ABSTRACT
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity?
Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news
across Iraqi provinces, we identify an emboldenment effect by
comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower
access to information about U.S news after public statements critical
of the war.
We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent
attacks increases by 5-10 percent.
The results suggest that insurgent groups respond rationally to
expected probability of US withdrawal.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
This is a well known LIE! IRAQ IS NOT LOST!
U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,
The 9 soldiers were ALL acquited!
his preemptory claim that Marines in the town of Haditha, Iraq had killed women and children ''in cold blood'' in a
November 2005 incident. Of the eight Marines accused, only one still faces possible charges --
the rest were either acquitted or had the charges dropped.
NY Times Plays Up John Murtha's Anti-War Turn in Obit, Omits Smear of Marines as Killers | NewsBusters.org
Senator Kerry "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in th dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."
NOW DUMB ASS...
YOU tell me that if you are on the playing field and YOUR HOME team CHEERS when you are tackled. Boos when you make a great run and
picks up the visiting team cheering them... WHAT affect would that have on you? What affect would it have on the visiting team?
HOW F...ing complicated is it ?
Are you that simple naive to think that when Congressional leaders CALL their own military and troops Killers, civilian killers... terrorists" are you that totally NAIVE NOT to think that has a NEGATIVE AFFECT on OUR troops and a very "enoboldenment" on recruiting? ON TERRORISTS?
MY God... are you and your fellow head in the sand IDIOTS!!!
YOU and the CHEERLEADERS for terrorists DID NOT WIN but you certainly helped make 3,000+ US troop families losers! BET YOU are REAL produc of helping TERRORISTS KILL US TROOPS!
YOU and your ilk have to be class A idiots NOT to understand the simple concept... YOU DON"T CHEER FOR someone who's trying to KILL your fellow AMericans... IT IS THAT SIMPLE!!!
BUT evidently TOO complicated for you and your ilk!!
SAD and I hope you can sleep at night realizing some families are missing loved ones that were KILLED BECAUSE YOU CHEERED on the enemy!
The primary blame lies with Bush, yes. Without Bush's manipulation we would never have gone to war in Iraq.
However, secondary blame must fall on every member of Congress who voted for the declaration of war.
k00ks like josefK told us that 5 million Iraquis were killed by US forces..............
just wanted to point out that little tidbit..........
How about you back up that little tidbit (or what I call BULLSHIT) with some proof. I'll wait![]()
k00ks like josefK told us that 5 million Iraquis were killed by US forces..............
just wanted to point out that little tidbit..........
How about you back up that little tidbit (or what I call BULLSHIT) with some proof. I'll wait![]()
Hey s0n........all you k00ks have spent years throwing around number of Iraqi's killed by George Bush.........1 million..............3 million. What?
s0n........its 2011. The whole world has moved past this shit except the internet k00ks with BDS!!!
WHAT Manipulation??? . . .
SO TeLL me again... WHY IS BUSH The ONLY ONE to Blame here then???
BUT NONE of you evidently are OLD enough to remember what happened after 9/11!
WHAT Manipulation??? . . .
SO TeLL me again... WHY IS BUSH The ONLY ONE to Blame here then???
I already said he's not. Congress voted the declaration of war, and everyone who voted for it is also to blame.
Of course, regarding Clinton, don't be absurd. Going to war is not like an economic collapse. That, you can sometimes blame on a president's predecessor, the way the Great Depression should be blamed on Coolidge more than Hoover, or the Second Depression on Bush more than Obama. But if we go to war, that's the fault either of the president who makes the decision, or of the enemy, depending on who started it.
Thus, World War II -- blame the Japanese. Korea -- blame Truman. Vietnam -- blame Johnson. Persian Gulf -- blame Saddam (he invaded Kuwait, an act of blatant aggression).
Afghanistan and Iraq -- blame Bush.
Now, at the same time, we have to say that a war becomes the succeeding president's responsibility at the time he assumes office, if it's still going on. Thus:
Credit for ending the Korean War promptly goes to President Eisenhower.
Blame for extending the Vietnam War far longer than he should have goes to President Nixon, along with credit for the fact that he finally did end it.
A degree of blame for extending the Iraq war a bit longer than he should have goes to President Obama, and serious blame for the fact we're still in Afghanistan goes to Obama as well, along with credit that the Iraq War is finally over.
In short, there's enough blame to go around. But the primary blame for the war does fall on Bush.
BUT NONE of you evidently are OLD enough to remember what happened after 9/11!
NONE of you remember the Anthrax attacks!
NONE of YOU remember how YOU wanted Iraq to be blamed!
"Do you think the U.S. made the right decision or the wrong decision in using military force in Iraq?"
4/10-16/03 74% Right decision 19% wrong Decision 7% unsure
SO WHAT HAPPENED between 04/2003 & 1/2007.. when 42% right 50% wrong?
FU...king NEWS MEDIA and DEMOCRATS decided to KILL American soldiers for political GAIN... that's what happened...
IDIOT CHEERLEADERS making statements ..Terrorists troops..civilian killers..AbuGrib!!
something less the 1/10th of 1% of ALL US troops did WAS BLOWN so out of proportion by the MSM and Democrats!
YET we have Durbin saying:"must have been done by Nazis, Soviets --action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."
GEEZ you don't think the TERRORIST LOVED to hear that and WHY would idiots encourage Terrorists by saying this KNOWING it was NOT the RULE but the very rare exception!
BUT NONE of you evidently are OLD enough to remember what happened after 9/11!
NONE of you remember the Anthrax attacks!
NONE of YOU remember how YOU wanted Iraq to be blamed!
"Do you think the U.S. made the right decision or the wrong decision in using military force in Iraq?"
4/10-16/03 74% Right decision 19% wrong Decision 7% unsure
SO WHAT HAPPENED between 04/2003 & 1/2007.. when 42% right 50% wrong?
FU...king NEWS MEDIA and DEMOCRATS decided to KILL American soldiers for political GAIN... that's what happened...
IDIOT CHEERLEADERS making statements ..Terrorists troops..civilian killers..AbuGrib!!
something less the 1/10th of 1% of ALL US troops did WAS BLOWN so out of proportion by the MSM and Democrats!
YET we have Durbin saying:"must have been done by Nazis, Soviets --action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."
GEEZ you don't think the TERRORIST LOVED to hear that and WHY would idiots encourage Terrorists by saying this KNOWING it was NOT the RULE but the very rare exception!
I was at Ft. Benning on a live fire range when 9/11 happened.
We found out who was responsible for the Anthrax attack and it wasn't a disgruntled American scientist?
That's great news!
Bush?
Did Bush plant IEDs?
Did Bush plant bombs on the children so when US soldiers handing candy the kids and soldiers were blow apart? Was that Bush's fault?
Did Bush plant the bombs in the Mosques.. the schools?
Did Bush make these statements that CHEERED the deaths of US troops, that cheered the terrorists? Did BUSH encourage the Terrorists to bomb children, US troops like these "so called" Americans did????
Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets --action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,
Senator Kerry(D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the
dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."
Senator Obama(D) .."troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
NO Bush didn't... BUT studies show that statements made by the Cheerleaders DID increase the bombings, the violence AND did make the Liberation of Iraq cost:
3,000 more then necessary American LIVES!
80,000+ more then necessary Iraqi lives!
$600 billion more then necessary!
6 YEARS longer!
All because CHEERLEADERS like the above and a few of YOU were HAPPY that US Troops and Iraqis were KILLED!
I really am saddened by how much blood you have on all your hands!