Who has power to regulate a state’s immigration? The question remains!

johnwk

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I'm still waiting for someone to verify the wording in our Constitution under which the president or Congress has been granted a power to flood a state with unwanted "refugees".

I certainly cannot find a power delegated to Congress or the President in our written Constitution repealing a power exercised by the States under the Articles of Confederation during which time each state was free to regulate immigration into their own state. But there is an exception made to this power under our existing Constitution which the States knowingly and willingly greed to ___ the exception being Article 1, Section 9, which reads:

"The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person."

The above delegated power allows Congress to lay a tax or duty on the importation of foreigners, but leaves each State otherwise free to admit whom they please and set its own immigration policy in a manner which serves each particular State's interests, general welfare and safety.

So, the question remains, under what wording in our Constitution has Congress or the president been delegated a power to admit tens of thousands, or even millions of poverty stricken or destitute foreigners on to American soil and then require unwilling states to accept them?

Let us recall what Chief Justice Marshall emphasized while the ink was barely dry on our existing Constitution:

The powers of the legislature are defined and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken or forgotten, the constitution is written. To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing; if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? ______ MARBURY v. MADISON, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)


JWK



The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47
 
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"The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person."

Interesting that they use the phrase "states now existing". So only the 13 original states can import people?
 
"The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person."

Interesting that they use the phrase "states now existing". So only the 13 original states can import people?

What is interesting is, there is no wording in our Constitution delegating a power to Congress or the President to allow tens of millions of foreigners onto American soil and then compel the states to accept them.

JWK







The surest way for Obama to accomplish his fundamental transformation of America is to flood America with the poverty stricken and destitute populations of other countries.




 
"The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person."

Interesting that they use the phrase "states now existing". So only the 13 original states can import people?

What is interesting is, there is no wording in our Constitution delegating a power to Congress or the President to allow tens of millions of foreigners onto American soil and then compel the states to accept them.

JWK







The surest way for Obama to accomplish his fundamental transformation of America is to flood America with the poverty stricken and destitute populations of other countries.




The constitution gives Congress the power to set immigration policy. Congress has done so, including laws that provide for the admittance of refugees. Get over it. I don't agree with bringing in the refugees. But you morons spouting your idiocy accomplish nothing, except for making the Democrats look like the good guys.
 
"The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person."

Interesting that they use the phrase "states now existing". So only the 13 original states can import people?

What is interesting is, there is no wording in our Constitution delegating a power to Congress or the President to allow tens of millions of foreigners onto American soil and then compel the states to accept them.

JWK

The surest way for Obama to accomplish his fundamental transformation of America is to flood America with the poverty stricken and destitute populations of other countries.


The constitution gives Congress the power to set immigration policy. .


Thank you for posting your personal opinion. Now tell me, under what wording in our Constitution have the states granted a power to the federal government to allow entry to tens of thousands of foreigners on to U.S. soil and then compel a state to accept them?

There is no need for you to post a lengthy response. Just post the wording from our Constitution.


JWK

The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

 
"The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person."

Interesting that they use the phrase "states now existing". So only the 13 original states can import people?

What is interesting is, there is no wording in our Constitution delegating a power to Congress or the President to allow tens of millions of foreigners onto American soil and then compel the states to accept them.

JWK

The surest way for Obama to accomplish his fundamental transformation of America is to flood America with the poverty stricken and destitute populations of other countries.


The constitution gives Congress the power to set immigration policy. .


Thank you for posting your personal opinion. Now tell me, under what wording in our Constitution have the states granted a power to the federal government to allow entry to tens of thousands of foreigners on to U.S. soil and then compel a state to accept them?

There is no need for you to post a lengthy response. Just post the wording from our Constitution.


JWK

The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

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Stop being stupid. I'm not going to play your game.
 
The consttution gives Congress the power to set immigration policy.
Then you should have no trouble telling us where it says that. All is can see is where article 1 section 8 grants congress authority "to establish a uniform rule for naturalization." That has nothing to do with refugees since they are not being naturalized.

On a related note, it also means deportation is not a federal matter and is reserved to the states by the tenth amendment.
 
The consttution gives Congress the power to set immigration policy.
Then you should have no trouble telling us where it says that. All is can see is where article 1 section 8 grants congress authority "to establish a uniform rule for naturalization." That has nothing to do with refugees since they are not being naturalized.

On a related note, it also means deportation is not a federal matter and is reserved to the states by the tenth amendment.


I'm still waiting for someone to post the wording in our Constitution under which the president or Congress has been granted a power to flood a state with unwanted "refugees" or the tens of millions of poverty stricken poorly education and low skilled populations of Mexico and Central America.


JWK


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The surest way for Obama to accomplish his fundamental transformation of America is to flood America with the poverty stricken and destitute populations of other countries.
 
FoxNews not so "fair and balanced" when it comes to our Constitution's intent


It is very telling that not one personality at FoxNews, which has repeatedly asserted over the years that our federal government has exclusive power over immigration, has yet to point to the wording in our Constitution under which the president or Congress has been granted a power to flood a state with unwanted "refugees" or the tens of millions of poverty stricken poorly education and low skilled populations of Mexico and Central America.


JWK

The surest way for Obama to accomplish his fundamental transformation of America is to flood America with the poverty stricken and destitute populations of other countries.
 

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