Who do you blame for WW1 ??

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It was my understanding that it was Germany

However . It seems every major country involved wanted to expand their territories and influences !! Russia , France , Italy , Ottomans , UK all had goals of expansion and more power

Do you Blame Germany the most or does the Blame fall on all parties
 
sadly likely all the above, nobody is just happy with what they have, they want more and they see and opportunity to take a bite they will likely try

as of today borders are fairly set in stone but 100 years ago, not so much

look at how Europe tried to carve up africa into territories, they even fought about it but not with a military but with diplomacy

you can have this, I want that, etc
 
Those are completely different lines of reasoning. Was the flat tire the fault of the nail in the road or was it the fault of the people for not sufficiently funding the county government such that they cut back on the schedules street sweeping?
They can both be true simultaneously. It can be true that a thief is personally at fault for breaking into the bank and it is the fault of a deteriorating economy that put him out of work. Causality is not a singular event, it is a host of events that culminate into a larger issue. Placing BLAME is a fools errand. Then there is the issue of "or" where "and" is appropriate. The question is over simplified.

Try looking up "Who started WWI?"
"Germany is often considered primarily responsible for World War 1 due to its aggressive foreign policy, including backing Austria-Hungary in their conflict with Serbia, violating Belgian neutrality to invade France, and its perceived desire for a large empire, which led to a perception of them as the primary aggressor in the conflict; this, combined with the complex web of alliances, ultimately triggered a large-scale European war. "

Thinking is a procedure. There are good procedures, like surgical procedures, that answer the question, that solve the problem. Then there are bad procedures that kill the patient. Thinking can follow a good procedure, like the scientific method or can lead to insane conclusions.

My question is; why are you trying to over simplify the issue and blame everyone else but Germany? Why do you believe your thinking is better that all the historians of the world?
 
It was my understanding that it was Germany

However . It seems every major country involved wanted to expand their territories and influences !! Russia , France , Italy , Ottomans , UK all had goals of expansion and more power

Do you Blame Germany the most or does the Blame fall on all parties
Probably one of the most confusing wars to understand in terms of why it started.

Essentially, you had and underlying power struggles between Germany and England for dominance in Europe that heightened to a point that all it took was a spark to light Europe on fire, which ended up being an assassination of one of their allies.
 
It was my understanding that it was Germany

However . It seems every major country involved wanted to expand their territories and influences !! Russia , France , Italy , Ottomans , UK all had goals of expansion and more power

Do you Blame Germany the most or does the Blame fall on all parties
I put most of the blame on Russia and France. Scholarly research over the last 20 years has shed considerable light on this issue. I recommend Dr. Sean McMeekin's 2011 book The Russian Origins of the First World War and his 2013 book July 1914: Countdown to War. The previously unavailable/unused primary source materials in McMeekin's book provide a much different picture than the standard view of the war's origins that dominated academia until the early 2000s.
 
Italy wanted chucks of AH empire
Russia also wanted chunks of AH empire

Brit’s wanted to weaken Germany

Ottomans wanted Egypt and Libya

French -only wanted a tiny land in Germany
 
Germany was clearly the biggest reason for WW1 but it’s unfair to only blame them
 
The Serbian guy who shot the archduke set off the whole chain of events

Austria-Hungary’s response then activated the tangle of alliances and declarations of war.
 
Tribal warfare in Europe left over from the 18th and 19th century where kingdoms still prevailed. President Wilson said he would never send American boys to fight in a foreign land and then he (or his wife) sent the Doughboys to be gassed in an effort to save France from the Hun. Ironically the U.S. had to do it all over again within 20 years.
 
Do you Blame Germany
No, I blame Mongol - 🇷🇺 Moscow ulus

The origin of 🇷🇺Moscovy lies in the bloody degradation of Mongolian slavery...
🇷🇺 "semi-Asiatic" menace to "Europe" and "civilization ...
the 🇷🇺 Muscovites. They are not Slavs; they do not belong to the Indo-Germanic race at all, they are des intrus [intruders], who must be chased back across the Dnieper,


Karl Marx (1856–57/1873)
 
It was my understanding that it was Germany

However . It seems every major country involved wanted to expand their territories and influences !! Russia , France , Italy , Ottomans , UK all had goals of expansion and more power

Do you Blame Germany the most or does the Blame fall on all parties
Donald Trump of course.
 
The Serbian guy who shot the archduke set off the whole chain of events

Austria-Hungary’s response then activated the tangle of alliances and declarations of war.

Yes but AH knew they were backed by Germany
 
No, I blame Mongol - 🇷🇺 Moscow ulus

The origin of 🇷🇺Moscovy lies in the bloody degradation of Mongolian slavery...
🇷🇺 "semi-Asiatic" menace to "Europe" and "civilization ...
the 🇷🇺 Muscovites. They are not Slavs; they do not belong to the Indo-Germanic race at all, they are des intrus [intruders], who must be chased back across the Dnieper,


Karl Marx (1856–57/1873)
I blame climate change.
 
It was my understanding that it was Germany

However . It seems every major country involved wanted to expand their territories and influences !! Russia , France , Italy , Ottomans , UK all had goals of expansion and more power

Do you Blame Germany the most or does the Blame fall on all parties

To me it was mostly German fears over the breakup of Austria Hungary, Russia's desire for Austria Hungary to break up, and French desire to regain Alsace and Lorraine.

Germany feared losing Austria Hungary as an ally and being far on the wrong side of the military balance.

Russia wanted the Slavic portions of the AH Empire to aid in their desire to take Constantinople and guarantee themselves a warm water port with ocean access. France wanted revenge for 1870 and wanted Alsace and Lorraine back.
 
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