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Haha, there it is again. No rosie, i am open minded. Open minded people are open to evidence and follow it, regardless of what they "wish" were true.you are very CLOSED minded and really brainwashed into imagining thatAnd there you have it. The end of any rational discussion on any topic: introduce magic.MagicalSo THAT'S how i do stuff 1000 years before i was born? Sounds magical. And absurd.you will it, it is no dream
history has been REVEALED by a bunch of mental masturbators
to what "fantasy" in your addled mind have YOU DECIDED I cling?Haha, there it is again. No rosie, i am open minded. Open minded people are open to evidence and follow it, regardless of what they "wish" were true.you are very CLOSED minded and really brainwashed into imagining thatAnd there you have it. The end of any rational discussion on any topic: introduce magic.MagicalSo THAT'S how i do stuff 1000 years before i was born? Sounds magical. And absurd.you will it, it is no dream
history has been REVEALED by a bunch of mental masturbators
Closed minded people like you cling to a fantasy despite the evidence, and end up having to claim "magic!" in order to preserve belief in your fantasy.
Get it straight.
Now you are just retreading old ground to run out the clock. zzzzzzzzzzzzto what "fantasy" in your addled mind have YOU DECIDED I cling?Haha, there it is again. No rosie, i am open minded. Open minded people are open to evidence and follow it, regardless of what they "wish" were true.you are very CLOSED minded and really brainwashed into imagining thatAnd there you have it. The end of any rational discussion on any topic: introduce magic.MagicalSo THAT'S how i do stuff 1000 years before i was born? Sounds magical. And absurd.you will it, it is no dream
history has been REVEALED by a bunch of mental masturbators
Closed minded people like you cling to a fantasy despite the evidence, and end up having to claim "magic!" in order to preserve belief in your fantasy.
Get it straight.
Jesus. I love the gullibility, it is top notch.I have attended lectures recently where it has been clearly stated that no machinery exists today that can handle the weight of the stones.
Now show a video of that tiny tractor picking up the stone of a pyramid.Jesus. I love the gullibility, it is top notch.I have attended lectures recently where it has been clearly stated that no machinery exists today that can handle the weight of the stones.
The Pyramid of Giza weigh about 5.75 million tons. This weight is made up of about 2.3 million blocks of stone that weighs about 2267.96 kg (about 2.3 metric tons) each.
That's a real stretch of the imagination.
There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.
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Who built the Egyptian pyramids?
Owen Jarus 3 hrs ago
Egypt's pyramids are an archaeological marvel, rising high above the desert sands and visible for miles on end. Building these pyramids was undoubtedly a mammoth task, so who were the individuals that pulled it off?
a man riding a horse in a desert with Great Pyramid of Giza in the background: A Bedouin on a camel by the Pyramids of Khafre and Menkaure at the Giza Necropolis in Egypt.© Provided by Live Science A Bedouin on a camel by the Pyramids of Khafre and Menkaure at the Giza Necropolis in Egypt.
There are many theories about who built Egypt's pyramids, including large teams of enslaved Jewish people and wilder ideas, such as inhabitants of the 'lost' city of Atlantis or even aliens.
None of these theories, however, have evidence to back them up.
The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.
"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).
What's more, no archaeological evidence has ever been found for the lost city of Atlantis in any time period, and many scholars believe that the story is fictional. As for aliens, well, that idea is out of this world.
In fact, all the evidence shows that the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids, Egyptologists say. But how the pyramid builders lived, how they were compensated and how they were treated is a mystery that researchers are still investigating.
The pyramids and their builders
Egypt has more than 100 ancient pyramids, but its most famous include the first step pyramid, built during the reign of the pharaoh Djoser (about 2630-2611 B.C.), and the first true pyramid — one that has smooth sides — built under the rule of pharaoh Snefru (about 2575-2551 B.C.), Mark Lehner wrote in his book, "The Complete Pyramids: Solving the Ancient Mysteries" (Thames & Hudson, 2008). The Great Pyramid was constructed at Giza during the reign of pharaoh Khufu (about 2551-2528 B.C.), and two of his successors, Khafre (about 2520-2494 B.C.) and Menkaure (about 2490-2472 B.C.), also had pyramids built at Giza.
Pharaohs gradually stopped building pyramids during the New Kingdom (1550-1070 B.C.), choosing instead to be buried in the Valley of the Kings, which is located about 300 miles (483 km) south of Giza, Lehner noted in his book. Over the past few decades, archaeologists have found new pieces of evidence that provide clues as to who the pyramid builders were and how they lived.
Surviving written records, including papyri discovered in 2013 at Wadi al-Jarf on Egypt's Red Sea coast, indicate that large groups of workers — sometimes translated as "gangs" — helped bring material to Giza. The papyri found at Wadi al-Jarf tell of a group of 200 men headed by an inspector named Merer. The group of workers transported limestone by boat along the Nile River a distance of about 11 miles (18 kilometers) from Tura to the Great Pyramid, where the stone was used to build the outer casing of the monument.
In the past, Egyptologists had theorized that the pyramid builders were largely made up of seasonal agricultural workers who had reached a point in the year in which there was little agricultural work to be done. However, it remains to be seen whether this is actually true. The papyri detailing the pyramid's histories are still in the process of being deciphered and analyzed, but the results indicate that the gang led by Merer did far more than help with pyramid construction.
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Do you really believe no equipment exists which can lift < 3 tonne? Oh, of course, you've said exactly that.Now show a video of that tiny tractor picking up the stone of a pyramid.
But but but he personally knows lots of people who agree with him! And they are all experts!Do you really believe no equipment exists which can lift < 3 tonne? Oh, of course, you've said exactly that.Now show a video of that tiny tractor picking up the stone of a pyramid.
So you won't believe this can lift 72 tonne. Ffs, you utter egg.
Joy Global’s P&H L-2350 has a 40.52m³ capacity shovel bucket and offers a payload of 72,574kg.
And you cannot find anything on the Internet to prove we have the machinery to build a pyramid.But but but he personally knows lots of people who agree with him! And they are all experts!Do you really believe no equipment exists which can lift < 3 tonne? Oh, of course, you've said exactly that.Now show a video of that tiny tractor picking up the stone of a pyramid.
So you won't believe this can lift 72 tonne. Ffs, you utter egg.
Joy Global’s P&H L-2350 has a 40.52m³ capacity shovel bucket and offers a payload of 72,574kg.
That's a real stretch of the imagination.
There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.
Live Science
Who built the Egyptian pyramids?
Owen Jarus 3 hrs ago
Egypt's pyramids are an archaeological marvel, rising high above the desert sands and visible for miles on end. Building these pyramids was undoubtedly a mammoth task, so who were the individuals that pulled it off?
a man riding a horse in a desert with Great Pyramid of Giza in the background: A Bedouin on a camel by the Pyramids of Khafre and Menkaure at the Giza Necropolis in Egypt.© Provided by Live Science A Bedouin on a camel by the Pyramids of Khafre and Menkaure at the Giza Necropolis in Egypt.
There are many theories about who built Egypt's pyramids, including large teams of enslaved Jewish people and wilder ideas, such as inhabitants of the 'lost' city of Atlantis or even aliens.
None of these theories, however, have evidence to back them up.
The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.
"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).
What's more, no archaeological evidence has ever been found for the lost city of Atlantis in any time period, and many scholars believe that the story is fictional. As for aliens, well, that idea is out of this world.
In fact, all the evidence shows that the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids, Egyptologists say. But how the pyramid builders lived, how they were compensated and how they were treated is a mystery that researchers are still investigating.
The pyramids and their builders
Egypt has more than 100 ancient pyramids, but its most famous include the first step pyramid, built during the reign of the pharaoh Djoser (about 2630-2611 B.C.), and the first true pyramid — one that has smooth sides — built under the rule of pharaoh Snefru (about 2575-2551 B.C.), Mark Lehner wrote in his book, "The Complete Pyramids: Solving the Ancient Mysteries" (Thames & Hudson, 2008). The Great Pyramid was constructed at Giza during the reign of pharaoh Khufu (about 2551-2528 B.C.), and two of his successors, Khafre (about 2520-2494 B.C.) and Menkaure (about 2490-2472 B.C.), also had pyramids built at Giza.
Pharaohs gradually stopped building pyramids during the New Kingdom (1550-1070 B.C.), choosing instead to be buried in the Valley of the Kings, which is located about 300 miles (483 km) south of Giza, Lehner noted in his book. Over the past few decades, archaeologists have found new pieces of evidence that provide clues as to who the pyramid builders were and how they lived.
Surviving written records, including papyri discovered in 2013 at Wadi al-Jarf on Egypt's Red Sea coast, indicate that large groups of workers — sometimes translated as "gangs" — helped bring material to Giza. The papyri found at Wadi al-Jarf tell of a group of 200 men headed by an inspector named Merer. The group of workers transported limestone by boat along the Nile River a distance of about 11 miles (18 kilometers) from Tura to the Great Pyramid, where the stone was used to build the outer casing of the monument.
In the past, Egyptologists had theorized that the pyramid builders were largely made up of seasonal agricultural workers who had reached a point in the year in which there was little agricultural work to be done. However, it remains to be seen whether this is actually true. The papyri detailing the pyramid's histories are still in the process of being deciphered and analyzed, but the results indicate that the gang led by Merer did far more than help with pyramid construction.
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The Egyptian word for homeless bum is "apiru" which is the basis for the term "Hebrew". These people were forced labor.
Egyptian society and culture was highly evolved for the time period. Even slaves had some rights.
The pyramids were only one of many structures that slave labor was used on....there were/are many military fortifications built along the Nile river to keep the "barbarian" Cushites at bay.
To claim that the Jews were never enslaved in Egypt is laughable and likely some form of propaganda to further some other illigitamate claim for nefarious purposes.
www.myjewishlearning.com
No, I showed machinery exists that can lift a pyramid stone, that you pooh poohed, you complete and utter egg.The whole world at your fingertips for 2 whole days and all you have is an ad hominem.
Now show a video of that tiny tractor picking up the stone of a pyramid.
but all the Egyptians had were fulcrums and block and tackle.No, I showed machinery exists that can lift a pyramid stone, that you pooh poohed, you complete and utter egg.The whole world at your fingertips for 2 whole days and all you have is an ad hominem.
Now show a video of that tiny tractor picking up the stone of a pyramid.
I'm glad to see you didn't bother following that thread line.but all the Egyptians had were fulcrums and block and tackle.
You know how much a pyramid stone weighs?No, I showed machinery exists that can lift a pyramid stone, that you pooh poohed, you complete and utter egg.The whole world at your fingertips for 2 whole days and all you have is an ad hominem.
Now show a video of that tiny tractor picking up the stone of a pyramid.
That's a real stretch of the imagination.
There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.
Live Science
Who built the Egyptian pyramids?
Owen Jarus 3 hrs ago
Egypt's pyramids are an archaeological marvel, rising high above the desert sands and visible for miles on end. Building these pyramids was undoubtedly a mammoth task, so who were the individuals that pulled it off?
a man riding a horse in a desert with Great Pyramid of Giza in the background: A Bedouin on a camel by the Pyramids of Khafre and Menkaure at the Giza Necropolis in Egypt.© Provided by Live Science A Bedouin on a camel by the Pyramids of Khafre and Menkaure at the Giza Necropolis in Egypt.
There are many theories about who built Egypt's pyramids, including large teams of enslaved Jewish people and wilder ideas, such as inhabitants of the 'lost' city of Atlantis or even aliens.
None of these theories, however, have evidence to back them up.
The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.
"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).
What's more, no archaeological evidence has ever been found for the lost city of Atlantis in any time period, and many scholars believe that the story is fictional. As for aliens, well, that idea is out of this world.
In fact, all the evidence shows that the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids, Egyptologists say. But how the pyramid builders lived, how they were compensated and how they were treated is a mystery that researchers are still investigating.
The pyramids and their builders
Egypt has more than 100 ancient pyramids, but its most famous include the first step pyramid, built during the reign of the pharaoh Djoser (about 2630-2611 B.C.), and the first true pyramid — one that has smooth sides — built under the rule of pharaoh Snefru (about 2575-2551 B.C.), Mark Lehner wrote in his book, "The Complete Pyramids: Solving the Ancient Mysteries" (Thames & Hudson, 2008). The Great Pyramid was constructed at Giza during the reign of pharaoh Khufu (about 2551-2528 B.C.), and two of his successors, Khafre (about 2520-2494 B.C.) and Menkaure (about 2490-2472 B.C.), also had pyramids built at Giza.
Pharaohs gradually stopped building pyramids during the New Kingdom (1550-1070 B.C.), choosing instead to be buried in the Valley of the Kings, which is located about 300 miles (483 km) south of Giza, Lehner noted in his book. Over the past few decades, archaeologists have found new pieces of evidence that provide clues as to who the pyramid builders were and how they lived.
Surviving written records, including papyri discovered in 2013 at Wadi al-Jarf on Egypt's Red Sea coast, indicate that large groups of workers — sometimes translated as "gangs" — helped bring material to Giza. The papyri found at Wadi al-Jarf tell of a group of 200 men headed by an inspector named Merer. The group of workers transported limestone by boat along the Nile River a distance of about 11 miles (18 kilometers) from Tura to the Great Pyramid, where the stone was used to build the outer casing of the monument.
In the past, Egyptologists had theorized that the pyramid builders were largely made up of seasonal agricultural workers who had reached a point in the year in which there was little agricultural work to be done. However, it remains to be seen whether this is actually true. The papyri detailing the pyramid's histories are still in the process of being deciphered and analyzed, but the results indicate that the gang led by Merer did far more than help with pyramid construction.
continued
The Egyptian word for homeless bum is "apiru" which is the basis for the term "Hebrew". These people were forced labor.
Egyptian society and culture was highly evolved for the time period. Even slaves had some rights.
The pyramids were only one of many structures that slave labor was used on....there were/are many military fortifications built along the Nile river to keep the "barbarian" Cushites at bay.
To claim that the Jews were never enslaved in Egypt is laughable and likely some form of propaganda to further some other illigitamate claim for nefarious purposes.
I posted the weight you ridiculous fruitcake. Under 3 tonne.You know how much a pyramid stone weighs?
can a hemp rope handle 3 tons? what kind of boat did they have back then that could move 3 tons?I posted the weight you ridiculous fruitcake. Under 3 tonne.You know how much a pyramid stone weighs?
it has to do with original intent of this thread your side argument is just that a side argument besides anyone dumb enough to claim we have no way today to move them doesn't deserve a response other than a laugh.What the fuck does that have to do with whether we now have machinery that can lift a pyramid stone?
Torah says the Hebrews built the store cities of Pythom and Ramses. nothing about the pyramidsI'm not sure the Bible says anything about Israel being in Egypt to build pyramids. They could have come later and been numbered among the various Levantine people who inhabited Egypt at the end of Egypt's Bronze Age.
Bandits, mercenaries, and slaves migrated to Egypt at this time, and like other ancients, Egyptians called these invaders "Sea Peoples."
