Who Are The Palestinians?

[montelatici]

Why should they give up their land and move to Egypt, they are Palestinians

fanger , what do you think Palestinians are besides Egyptians?

Palestinians are Palestinians, Egyptians are Egyptians. What do you think Germans are besides Austrians? What do think Americans are besides Canadians?

 

[Hossfly]

Why should they give up their land and move to Egypt, they are Palestinians

fanger , what do you think Palestinians are besides Egyptians?

Palestinians are Palestinians, Egyptians are Egyptians. What do you think Germans are besides Austrians? What do think Americans are besides Canadians?

Ever had a history class?

 

[montelatici]

More years of history than all of your education put together, obviously.

 

[teddyearp]

I think that just who the Palestinians are well shown for who they really are in this thread:

A question about hamas to the pro pal lovers US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[MJB12741]

Is there anything Palestinians have ever done to benefit humanity?

 

[Kondor3]

More years of history than all of your education put together, obviously.

University of Karachi?

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Remembering of course, that the designation of "Palestine" in 1925, was the official short title for the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies (Palestine Order in Council).

It's almost as if you are out to prove how stupid you are.

Showing a pic of a coin minted by the British for use of the residents of the Palestinian Mandate (which included Arabs, Jews and Druze) hardly proves that there was a people called "Palestinian" as we define them today or that these people had their own country.

It just shows that you are profoundly ignorant in addition to your incredible degree of stupidity.

The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

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Don't mislead people into believing that there was some other entity called Palestine, or that there was an independent nation called Palestine. That would be an intentional falsehood.

Most Respectfully,
R

The mandate was not Palestine. The mandate was a temporary trustee of Palestine. Palestine existed with or without the mandate.

I never claimed Palestine to be independent. Palestine was born under occupation and that continues today. But, as UN resolutions state, Palestinians have the right to self determination, independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity.

Violating their rights do not negate those rights.

The mandate was Palestine as the name says, without the mandate Palestine did not exist. Even the muslims called it Syria and not Palestine. The Palestinians already have self determination, independence, sovereignty and just need to negotiate territorial integrity. They will never be handed what you demand on a plate as they will just destroy everything in their ever increasing demands which will never be met. Until the Palestinians sit up and take control of their own lives they will be 3rd world moochers living on handouts.

What the Palestinians need is their own Palestinian State with self determination away from Israel. Problem is no surrounding Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, will grant them a right of return. So where can this Palestinian State be where the Palestinians can no longer suck off of Israel to provide for them any longer & no longer blame Israel for their misery & failures?

We could try the Sea of Storms that should suit them, I am sure we could afford the price of a one way ticket for them all. If they want to return then they have to pay the full amount of the two journeys

 

[Phoenall]

Why should they give up their land and move to Egypt, they are Palestinians

NO they are arab muslims and called themselves Syrians before 1948, then they became Jordanians until Jordan kicked them out and then they stole the name Palestinians from the Jews. Is there anything they don't steal ?

 

[Phoenall]

Why should they give up their land and move to Egypt, they are Palestinians

fanger , what do you think Palestinians are besides Egyptians?

Palestinians are Palestinians, Egyptians are Egyptians. What do you think Germans are besides Austrians? What do think Americans are besides Canadians?

Strange how they have only been Palestinians since 1960 then isn't it, before that they were Syrians, Egyptians, Iranians, Saudis and Yemeni's

 

[MJB12741]

Why should they give up their land and move to Egypt, they are Palestinians

NO they are arab muslims and called themselves Syrians before 1948, then they became Jordanians until Jordan kicked them out and then they stole the name Palestinians from the Jews. Is there anything they don't steal ?

So true. Jews were indigenous Palestinians. Not a single Muslim Palestinian among the natives of the land. How much longer will Israel allow this Palestinian land theft to continue?

 

[fanger]

Delude yourself Muslim history in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[MJB12741]

Delude yourself Muslim history in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Eh Fanger, with all due respect the rest of us are having a discussion here that involves some intellect. You see, Jews have resided in the land since antiquity. And believe it or not, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD. Get it yet?

 

[montelatici]

Delude yourself Muslim history in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Eh Fanger, with all due respect the rest of us are having a discussion here that involves some intellect. You see, Jews have resided in the land since antiquity. And believe it or not, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD. Get it yet?

Just as the Christians in the area of Palestine are/were predominately Jews that converted to Christianity, the Muslims in Palestine are predominately Christians that converted to Islam. There were hardly any Jews in Palestine before the European Jews began migrating to Palestine in the late 1800s.

 

[MJB12741]

Delude yourself Muslim history in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Eh Fanger, with all due respect the rest of us are having a discussion here that involves some intellect. You see, Jews have resided in the land since antiquity. And believe it or not, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD. Get it yet?

Just as the Christians in the area of Palestine are/were predominately Jews that converted to Christianity, the Muslims in Palestine are predominately Christians that converted to Islam. There were hardly any Jews in Palestine before the European Jews began migrating to Palestine in the late 1800s.

Even if that were true were Jews living on the land even before Christianity? Boy that's a tough question, huh Monti?

 

[montelatici]

Delude yourself Muslim history in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Eh Fanger, with all due respect the rest of us are having a discussion here that involves some intellect. You see, Jews have resided in the land since antiquity. And believe it or not, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD. Get it yet?

Just as the Christians in the area of Palestine are/were predominately Jews that converted to Christianity, the Muslims in Palestine are predominately Christians that converted to Islam. There were hardly any Jews in Palestine before the European Jews began migrating to Palestine in the late 1800s.

Even if that were true were Jews living on the land even before Christianity? Boy that's a tough question, huh Monti?

People that were of the Jewish (and many other) religions were living in the area before most of them converted to Christianity. Judaism is a religion just as Christianity, Hinduism, Islam and many others.

 

[Phoenall]

Delude yourself Muslim history in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Correct and as your link shows no arab muslims in evidence from 1099 until 1917 when the Ottomans lost Palestine as spoils of war.

So were is the evidence that arab muslims lived in Palestine between 1099 and 1917

 

[Phoenall]

Delude yourself Muslim history in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Eh Fanger, with all due respect the rest of us are having a discussion here that involves some intellect. You see, Jews have resided in the land since antiquity. And believe it or not, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD. Get it yet?

Just as the Christians in the area of Palestine are/were predominately Jews that converted to Christianity, the Muslims in Palestine are predominately Christians that converted to Islam. There were hardly any Jews in Palestine before the European Jews began migrating to Palestine in the late 1800s.

Even if that were true were Jews living on the land even before Christianity? Boy that's a tough question, huh Monti?

People that were of the Jewish (and many other) religions were living in the area before most of them converted to Christianity. Judaism is a religion just as Christianity, Hinduism, Islam and many others.

LINK to prove your claim from a non partisan source, the conversion rate was minimal as the Jews were mostly taken into slavery by the Romans

 

[Mindful]

King Abdullah’s Flawed Ploy

During his recent visit to Washington to meet with President Obama, King Abdullah II of Jordan was interviewed on “CBS This Morning.” Displaying his keen sense of the terrible neighborhood in which his kingdom is embedded, he identified the war against ISIS jihadi terrorists as “clearly a fight between good and evil.”

The King chose not to mention that Palestinians have rejected every two-state solution since 1937, when the British Peel Commission proposed the second partition of Palestine. The first came fifteen years earlier, when British Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill lopped off three-quarters of Mandatory Palestine as a gift to Abdullah’s great-grandfather for his wartime loyalty to the Allied cause. But unwilling to tolerate a Jewish state of any size in their midst, Arab leaders rejected the Peel proposal, the UN partition plan that followed a decade later, and even the dangerously generous two-state offers, involving huge Israeli land concessions, offered by Prime Ministers Barak and Olmert.

King Abdullah also chose (understandably) to ignore the demographic reality in Jordan, which poses a significant threat to the stability of his own regime. For obvious reasons, his kingdom provides no official census data about its Palestinian inhabitants. Best estimates (including by the U.S. State Department) indicate that they comprise more than half, and perhaps as high as two-thirds, of the Jordanian population.

In sum: the Hashemite king rules over a majority Palestinian population in two-thirds of Palestine. In translation: the Palestinians already have a state named Jordan, located in Palestine, and comprise a majority of its population. That is as it should be: the fulfillment of international assurances to Jews, and British promises to the Hashemites, that date back nearly a century.


King Abdullah s Flawed Ploy Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

 

[montelatici]

Delude yourself Muslim history in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Eh Fanger, with all due respect the rest of us are having a discussion here that involves some intellect. You see, Jews have resided in the land since antiquity. And believe it or not, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD. Get it yet?

Just as the Christians in the area of Palestine are/were predominately Jews that converted to Christianity, the Muslims in Palestine are predominately Christians that converted to Islam. There were hardly any Jews in Palestine before the European Jews began migrating to Palestine in the late 1800s.

Even if that were true were Jews living on the land even before Christianity? Boy that's a tough question, huh Monti?

People that were of the Jewish (and many other) religions were living in the area before most of them converted to Christianity. Judaism is a religion just as Christianity, Hinduism, Islam and many others.

LINK to prove your claim from a non partisan source, the conversion rate was minimal as the Jews were mostly taken into slavery by the Romans

Well, I don't think I am going to do research for you. Just one tiny little fact, Jesus and nearly all of his followers were Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Eh Fanger, with all due respect the rest of us are having a discussion here that involves some intellect. You see, Jews have resided in the land since antiquity. And believe it or not, there were no Muslims at all until the 7th century AD. Get it yet?

Just as the Christians in the area of Palestine are/were predominately Jews that converted to Christianity, the Muslims in Palestine are predominately Christians that converted to Islam. There were hardly any Jews in Palestine before the European Jews began migrating to Palestine in the late 1800s.

Even if that were true were Jews living on the land even before Christianity? Boy that's a tough question, huh Monti?

People that were of the Jewish (and many other) religions were living in the area before most of them converted to Christianity. Judaism is a religion just as Christianity, Hinduism, Islam and many others.

LINK to prove your claim from a non partisan source, the conversion rate was minimal as the Jews were mostly taken into slavery by the Romans

Well, I don't think I am going to do research for you. Just one tiny little fact, Jesus and nearly all of his followers were Jews.

And they died Jews as well didn't they, not one of them converted to any other religion. What you call Christianity did not exist until 200 years after his death.

But I see you cant find a credible source for your claims that is not ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA. Time to stop while you are so far behind