Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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BLUF: They are getting desperate.

Azzam “The Defender” Al-Ahmad has some odd notion that Fatah is the defender of Arabism in the region.
Fatah Central Committee Member: Palestinians Defend the Entire Arab Nation from the Zionist Designs

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I cannot speak the language, but they all seem to sound the same.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

Palestinians are still living in the past while Israel and other some Middle East countries are moving forward. This is why the Palestinians will NEVER have a future .

 

[Hollie]

Looks like a well thought out plan. The Palis are doing everything they can to vilify and denigrate the UAE, Bahrain and Arab leaders in general.

You wouldn’t normally think such a strategy is going to accrue much in your favor.

• Fatah: “If Trump would have asked some of the Arab rulers to strip and walk naked in the streets of Tel Aviv – they would agree”

Well thought out. Those suitcases full of cash from Arab nations may be a little slow in coming, but that’s just one opinion.


PMW Special Report: PA: UAE and Bahrain sign deal with death
Itamar Marcus, Nan Jacques Zilberdik, and Maurice Hirsch, Adv. |Sep 22, 2020

• Fatah: “If Trump would have asked some of the Arab rulers to strip and walk naked in the streets of Tel Aviv – they would agree”
• PA furious that Arab states stopped following its dictates and made peace with Israel
• Fatah: Normalizing with Israel - a partnership of blood and death

• PA: “A traitor” and a “tumor” - UAE Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayedis destined for “the trash can of history”
• Fatah posts Bahraini children’s poem: “Jews are [our dogs]”
• “The PA leadership rejects and condemns the tripartite agreement between the US, Bahrain, and Israel to normalize the relations between the Israeli occupation state and the Kingdom of Bahrain, and views it as a betrayal of Jerusalem, the Al-Aqsa Mosque, and the Palestinian cause”
• Fatah threat: “To all the bats lying in ambush in the dark… Fatah’s traps are hidden, so woe to anyone who is tempted and thinks that the Palestinian people will agree to bend the knee.”
• PA warning: “Israel will eat the flesh of the UAE and cast aside its bones”
• Fatah symbolically buries the Arab League

 

[Hollie]

Oh my. We may be at the event horizon of an Islamo turf war.

Palestinians arrest supporters of Abbas political rival based in UAE

The arrests were carried out in the West Bank and included Haytham al-Halabi and Salim Abu Safia, both senior members of Dahlan's faction, a statement from the group said.

m.jpost.com

The arrests were carried out in the West Bank and included Haytham al-Halabi and Salim Abu Safia, both senior members of Dahlan's faction, a statement from the group said.

RAMALLAH, West Bank/GAZA - Palestinian security forces arrested over half a dozen supporters of an exiled Palestinian politician who some have accused of involvement in the United Arab Emirates deal to forge ties with Israel, a spokesman for his faction said.

Mohammed Dahlan has lived in the UAE since being driven out of the West Bank in 2011 after a bitter row with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and his political party Fatah, of which Dahlan is a member.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

BLUF: This may be a counter-productive political move. This is activity by the government most closely associated with "repressive regimes." This is the Abbas Government (and Fatah) writing their own epitaph.

Oh my. We may be at the event horizon of an Islamo turf war.
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"RAMALLAH, West Bank/GAZA - Palestinian security forces arrested over half a dozen supporters of an exiled Palestinian politician who some have accused of involvement in the United Arab Emirates deal to forge ties with Israel, a spokesman for his faction said."

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What is the strategy (I wonder)? How does this help the Palestinians (motive)?


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Palestinian Memory Museum project designed by the students Fahmy Daher and Islam Al-Haddad in an interior design course at Al-Aqsa University. The project reviews the memory of the place in a visual narrative that employs drama to present the Palestinian narrative in an effective and convincing way to the world in confronting the Israeli narrative that our enemies succeeded in establishing through the Holocaust museums that are spreading In more than 60 countries in the world.

They actually seem jealous of the Holocaust, because they want to be the world's greatest victims. But they look at the Holocaust not as a historic genocide of millions of people but as an excuse for Jews to get a state.

(full article online)

Gaza's Al Aqsa University: Holocaust museums are Zionist propaganda

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

 

[Hollie]

Its so cute when the insufferable throwbacks find common ground to ensure their own destruction.

PA unites with Hamas and other terror organizations to renew terror strategy | PMW Analysis

Abbas “told Hamas, whatever you reach with Fatah, I agree to it" – says top PLO official

palwatch.org

PA unites with Hamas and other terror organizations to renew terror strategy
Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Sep 23, 2020

• Fatah to cooperate with Hamas in “armed struggle,” with Abbas’ support
• Abbas told Hamas: "Whatever you reach with Fatah, I agree to it" – says top PLO official
• Abbas declares “no reservations about any action” – including armed struggle
• Hamas leader: Joint Palestinian committee to “develop the popular resistance, which may develop into a popular intifada”
• Top PA/Fatah official threatens Israel: “All possibilities are open,” “struggle” will escalate from peaceful to violence
• Violence – “struggle in all its forms” – is our right, according to international resolutions, says Fatah official
• Goal of committee is “to restore the shine of the popular resistance, and to set it in motion towards becoming a comprehensive popular intifada” – says PLO official
• Hamas leader: “Hamas won’t recognize Israel… armed struggle is a strategic choice”
• The new joint committee: “We promise that we will not return the sword to the sheath… This is a revolution and resistance until victory, until victory”
• PA editorial cautioned against armed struggle – not because it is morally reprehensible but because world opinion is against it, even though it is “permitted”

PA Chairman Abbas has made a strong and clear statement of support for the PA’s return to terror. His statement was even turned into a TV filler being broadcast on official PA TV.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

BLUF: This may be a counter-productive political move. This is activity by the government most closely associated with "repressive regimes." This is the Abbas Government (and Fatah) writing their own epitaph.

Oh my. We may be at the event horizon of an Islamo turf war.
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"RAMALLAH, West Bank/GAZA - Palestinian security forces arrested over half a dozen supporters of an exiled Palestinian politician who some have accused of involvement in the United Arab Emirates deal to forge ties with Israel, a spokesman for his faction said."

(COMMENT)

What is the strategy (I wonder)? How does this help the Palestinians (motive)?


Most Respectfully,
R

Based on the latest news, (post 17,487), I don't believe Hamas or Fatah have any coherent plan. It seems policy decisions are driven by emotion and events at the moment. It's just predictable that whatever decision the angry, irrational factions make will be the wrong decision.

 

[Hollie]

Zoom Refuses Service to University Planned Discussion With Convicted Terrorist

townhall.com

This sounds like a lovely evening of hate, derision and possibly gunfire.

“Leila will engage in a conversation with public intellectuals, scholars and other long time internationalist leaders from Palestine, South Africa, the US Black liberation struggle, and anti-Zionist Jewish sisters and brothers," said Dr. Rabab Abdulhadi. "This historic conversation will engage in critical narratives of resistance, resilience, and gender and sexual justice that is timely and urgent in today’s world of white supremacy, racism, discrimination, and xenophobia."


The theme for the “historic conversation” is along the lines of “Keel da’ white devil”



Zoom media has made a corporate decision:

Zoom is committed to supporting the open exchange of ideas and conversations, subject to certain limitations contained in our Terms of Service, including those related to user compliance with applicable U.S. export control, sanctions, and anti-terrorism laws," the company said in a statement on Tuesday to the Lawfare Project, who has been assisting End Jew Hatred. "In light of the speaker’s reported affiliation or membership in a U.S. designated foreign terrorist organization, and SFSU’s inability to confirm otherwise, we determined the meeting is in violation of Zoom’s Terms of Service and told SFSU they may not use Zoom for this particular event."

 

[Hollie]

According to webmd.com
Signs of Clinical Depression: Symptoms to Watch For
They can include:

• Trouble concentrating, remembering details, and making decisions
• Fatigue
• Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, and helplessness

Palestine quits Arab League role in protest over Israel deals

Palestine was meant to chair Arab League meetings for next six months, but FM Riyad al-Maliki has declined the position.

www.aljazeera.com

Palestine has quit its current chairmanship of Arab League meetings, the Palestinian foreign minister said on Tuesday, condemning as dishonourable any Arab agreement to establish formal ties with Israel.

Palestinians see the deals that the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain signed with Israel in Washington a week ago as a betrayal of their cause and a blow to their quest for an independent state in Israeli-occupied territory.

 

[Hollie]

Lovely folks.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

BLUF: Every time the Arab Palestinians try to do something of worth, they make it even more screwed-up.

Lovely folks.

(COMMENT)

After April 1950 and before the Six-Day War (1967), the West Bank and Jerusalem were part of Sovereign Jordan. The Kingdom sponsored elections and a new Jordanian parliament in which the "Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented." And while the Arab Palestinians of today might say that the Annexation by Jordan was illegal or unrecognized by the international community.

At that meeting of the Arab League, the "annexation of Arab Palestine was determined to be irrevocable. Jordan did not abandon this sovereignty until 31 July 1988, when King Hussein announced Jordan abandon all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank; effectively leaving it in the hands of the Israelis (terra nullius). At the time of the abandonment, the Arab Palestinians had no declared independence by the habitual inhabitance; but no recognized entity with the following qualifications:

(a) a permanent population;​

(b) a defined territory;​

(c) government; and​

(d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.​

It was not until 15 November 1988, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the sole, legitimate representative of the Palestinian people, established its political framework for the State of Palestine. But the PLO did not establish political authority over any territory and had been unable to establish sovereignty; even over the territory once occupied by Arab League Forces.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

BLUF: Every time the Arab Palestinians try to do something of worth, they make it even more screwed-up.

Lovely folks.

(COMMENT)

After April 1950 and before the Six-Day War (1967), the West Bank and Jerusalem were part of Sovereign Jordan. The Kingdom sponsored elections and a new Jordanian parliament in which the "Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented." And while the Arab Palestinians of today might say that the Annexation by Jordan was illegal or unrecognized by the international community.

At that meeting of the Arab League, the "annexation of Arab Palestine was determined to be irrevocable. Jordan did not abandon this sovereignty until 31 July 1988, when King Hussein announced Jordan abandon all administrative and legal ties with the occupied West Bank; effectively leaving it in the hands of the Israelis (terra nullius). At the time of the abandonment, the Arab Palestinians had no declared independence by the habitual inhabitance; but no recognized entity with the following qualifications:

(a) a permanent population;​

(b) a defined territory;​

(c) government; and​

(d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.​

It was not until 15 November 1988, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the sole, legitimate representative of the Palestinian people, established its political framework for the State of Palestine. But the PLO did not establish political authority over any territory and had been unable to establish sovereignty; even over the territory once occupied by Arab League Forces.


Most Respectfully,
R

It is difficult to give any credence to the PLO. A label for window dressing on a building engulfed in flames. As to the failed wars of anhiliation waged by the arabs in their hope to destroy Israel, those were spectacular failures. Borders were established after Israel had won offensive wars started by Arabs (the borders that in any other conflict in the world would be subject to the victor's discretion), and borders established by treaty between Israel and Arab autocrats.

It’s easy to be pessimistic about the prospects for any type of “State” as it relates to the Palestinians. The precipitator to the actions of the Pals has been a violent and intransigent Arab/Moslem culture which is content to throw their children onto bonfires of hatred, so long as Jews are killed.

The culture is dominated either by the unreformed seventh century religion of the tribal Arab or by the greedy and equally brutal Arab autocrat. It’s easy to be pessimistic due to the undeniable reality of the ancient Arab social concept of honor at all costs and the unholy insensate rage of gee-had.

 

[Hollie]

The EU has this apparent willingness to prop up the Abbas Islamic terrorist syndicate.

Palestinian Media Watch - A window to Palestinian society | PMW

Palestinian Media Watch is a research institute that studies Palestinian society from a broad range of perspectives by monitoring and analyzing the Palestinian Authority through its media and schoolbooks. PMW’s major focus is on the messages that the Palestinian leaders send to the population.

palwatch.org

While the Palestinian Authority positively refuses to accept an estimated 2.5 billion shekels (€610,111,437) in taxes that Israel is ready to transfer to it, the EU is again pandering to the PA tantrums and stepping in to pay the salaries of the health and education workers.

An EU press statement on Sept. 2, 2020 declared that the “The European Union has today provided a contribution of €9 million to the July salaries of health and education workers and the pensions of more than 37,500 Palestinian civil servants in the West Bank.” [Website of the Office of the European Union Representative (West Bank and Gaza Strip, UNRWA)]

 

[Sixties Fan]

Rami Aman, two others indicted for ‘weakening revolutionary spirit’ by joining ‘Skype With Your Enemy’ conversation; they have been held without trial since April

Hamas charges three Gaza activists for pro-peace video call with Israelis

Rami Aman, two others indicted for 'weakening revolutionary spirit' by joining 'Skype With Your Enemy' conversation; they have been held without trial since April

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel's persecution of Khalida Jarrar Member of Palestinian Parliament

 

[Hollie]

Israel's persecution of Khalida Jarrar Member of Palestinian Parliament

Islamic terrorism carries consequences

 

[Hollie]

Mahmoud “I have a Plaque” Abbas realizing that the Pali ship has sailed is desperate to find relevance in a world that has left him behind.h

Palestine’s Mahmoud Abbas asks UN for international peace conference next year

UNITED NATIONS, New York: Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has called for an international conference early next year to “launch a genuine peace process” while criticizing the recent decision of two Arab countries to normalize relations with Israel.

www.arabnews.com

In this image made from UNTV video, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas speaks in a pre-recorded message which was played during the 75th session of the United Nations General Assembly, Friday, Sept. 25, 2020. (UNTV via AP)
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• Abbas spoke before a large plaque reading “State of Palestine”
• Abbas seemed to acknowledge the growing international weariness with the decades-old conflict

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel's persecution of Khalida Jarrar Member of Palestinian Parliament

Islamic terrorism carries consequences

Where is that stupid post button?

Khalida Jarrar is a Christian. Israel has noone of her stature.

 

[Hollie]

Where is that stupid post button?

I thought you were the caretaker.