Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

Who was at fault for that. They call it a "self-governing institution" for a reason.

Indeed, and it can't happen under occupation.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

The other areas weren't occupied by the Ottoman for hundreds of years? DURR!

 

[Hollie]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

Indeed, you have offered no support for any ''hundred years of occupation''.

 

[Hollie]

The Arab League decided that the usual whining by the Pals was to be given the "yeah, yeah, yeah, we've heard it all before'', acknowledgement.

"Amendments were introduced to the [Palestinian] draft, but at the end, there was an agreement not to adopt a resolution," Mr Zaki said.''

Palestine bid for resolution on UAE-Israel accord fades at Arab League

Arab foreign ministers discussed the proposal at length, but no resolution was adopted on Wednesday

www.thenational.ae

Palestine, which chaired Wednesday’s session, sought a resolution regarding the August 13 UAE-Israel agreement to normalise relations in exchange for halting annexation of Palestinian lands.

Hossam Zaki, the Arab League’s assistant secretary general, said a draft Palestinian resolution on the Abraham Accord was exhaustively discussed in the online meeting, but failed to secure agreement.

“Discussions regarding this point were serious," Mr Zaki said in Cairo. "It was comprehensive and took some time.

"But it did not lead in the end to an agreement about the draft communique that was proposed by the Palestinian side."

 

[P F Tinmore]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

Indeed, you have offered no support for any ''hundred years of occupation''.

Why do you post here when you know so little?

Palestine was occupied by Britain in 1917. Palestine was occupied by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel in 1948. Israel took over the occupation of all of Palestine in 1967. That occupation continues to today.

 

[Hollie]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

Indeed, you have offered no support for any ''hundred years of occupation''.

Why do you post here when you know so little?

Palestine was occupied by Britain in 1917. Palestine was occupied by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel in 1948. Israel took over the occupation of all of Palestine in 1967. That occupation continues to today.

Indeed, why do you post here when you don't know the facts? The loosely defined geographic area called Palestine was controlled by various parties over the last 1,000 years.

Indeed, you continue with your quaint, Disney'fied version of some Arab-Islamist wonderland that never existed.

 

[Hollie]

Saeb is not happy. Bahrain has committed an egregious sin against Allah and put its own interests ahead of the Pali occupiers.

While some in the islamist Middle East are looking forward to trade, economic and political changes for their benefit, the Palis are being left behind.

Bahrain told us they would not normalize with Israel, top Palestinian laments

Saeb Erekat says Manama had emphasized its commitment to the Arab Peace Initiative, which requires peace with Palestinians before normalization, in private as well as in public

www.timesofisrael.com

A top Palestinian official said Saturday that Bahraini officials promised Ramallah a week ago that they would not normalize with Israel before the establishment of a Palestinian state.

The comments from chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat came a day after the US announced that Israel and Bahrain would be establishing full ties, drawing angry denunciations from Palestinians, who have found themselves increasingly isolated by Gulf states opening up to Israel.

 

[Mindful]

 

[P F Tinmore]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

Indeed, you have offered no support for any ''hundred years of occupation''.

Why do you post here when you know so little?

Palestine was occupied by Britain in 1917. Palestine was occupied by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel in 1948. Israel took over the occupation of all of Palestine in 1967. That occupation continues to today.

Indeed, why do you post here when you don't know the facts? The loosely defined geographic area called Palestine was controlled by various parties over the last 1,000 years.

Indeed, you continue with your quaint, Disney'fied version of some Arab-Islamist wonderland that never existed.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.

Link?

 

[P F Tinmore]

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Foreign controlled oligarchs can make a lot of money fucking their own people.

It has been happening for centuries.

 

[Hollie]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

Indeed, you have offered no support for any ''hundred years of occupation''.

Why do you post here when you know so little?

Palestine was occupied by Britain in 1917. Palestine was occupied by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel in 1948. Israel took over the occupation of all of Palestine in 1967. That occupation continues to today.

Indeed, why do you post here when you don't know the facts? The loosely defined geographic area called Palestine was controlled by various parties over the last 1,000 years.

Indeed, you continue with your quaint, Disney'fied version of some Arab-Islamist wonderland that never existed.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.

Link?

Indeed, do you need a link to details of the Ottoman Caliphate or something else?

 

[Hollie]

The Palis are working themselves into a froth with a series of new conspiracy theories.

Medieval libels in todayâs PA: âIsrael openly murders Palestinian childrenâ and âpoisons water and airâ â in op-ed in official PA daily | PMW Analysis

The Israeli government is “unchaining the herds of settlers and the unofficial Zionist gangs… so they will set houses, places of worship, and cars on fire

palwatch.org

Medieval libels in today’s PA: “Israel openly murders Palestinian children” and “poisons water and air” – in op-ed in official PA daily
Itamar Marcus | Sep 14, 2020

The Israeli government is “unchaining the herds of settlers and the unofficial Zionist gangs… so they will set houses, places of worship, and cars on fire… openly murdering Palestinian children, young people, young women, [adult] women, and elderly… poisoning the air and water”

“The Zionist colonialist mother project… says that ‘The borders of the State of Greater Israel are from the Nile [River] to the Euphrates [River]’”

Israel seeks to “destroy” the Al-Aqsa Mosque and “establish the Third Temple in its place”

Numerous hate promoting libels demonizing Israel and the Zionist movement were blended into an article that also criticized Israel's political positions such as rejecting “return” of refugees to Israel, in a recent op-ed in the official Palestinian Authority daily.

In a long list of accusations against Israel - many said to have been supported by “Israeli governments” throughout history – one of the regular columnists for the paper, Omar Hilmi Al-Ghoul, included allegations that echo antisemitic libels of the Middle Ages, for example “murdering Palestinian children… poisoning the air and water” and others:

 

[P F Tinmore]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

Indeed, you have offered no support for any ''hundred years of occupation''.

Why do you post here when you know so little?

Palestine was occupied by Britain in 1917. Palestine was occupied by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel in 1948. Israel took over the occupation of all of Palestine in 1967. That occupation continues to today.

Indeed, why do you post here when you don't know the facts? The loosely defined geographic area called Palestine was controlled by various parties over the last 1,000 years.

Indeed, you continue with your quaint, Disney'fied version of some Arab-Islamist wonderland that never existed.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.

Link?

Indeed, do you need a link to details of the Ottoman Caliphate or something else?

Irrelevant question. The Ottoman Empire fell in 1923. Palestine was under British occupation from 1917 t0 1948.

 

[Ropey]

Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

Still Arabians from Arabia.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Preface and Thought: Do you make these stories up as you go? Who, pray tell, is the "foreign control?" AND Who is the "Controlled?" (Who gains what from whom?)

Foreign controlled oligarchs can make a lot of money fucking their own people.
It has been happening for centuries.

(COMMENT)

This is just a sound-bite. It actually has no real meaning.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Ropey]

When Egypt said yes, there was peace.
When Jordan said yes, there was peace.
When UAE & Bahrain said yes, there was peace.
It’s a new era in Israeli-Arab relations.

It’s time for the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians to say yes. Conversely, they can go running to non Arabian Iran or non Arabian Turkey for halp and see where that gets them.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is like the third time in the last 7 days you've said something to this effect. And it is 100% wrong.

Irrelevant question. The Ottoman Empire fell in 1923. Palestine was under British occupation from 1917 t0 1948.

(COMMENT)

I would like to make two points of correction:

◈ The effective control maintained by the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA) was established on 23 October 1917 and terminated on 1 JULY, 1920; upon which the Civil Administration went into effect as agreed by the Allied Powers. It was NOT occupied from 1917 - 1948.​

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◈ I'm not sure what you mean by the "Ottoman Empire fell in 1923." ​

"Armistice of Mudros, (Oct. 30, 1918), pact signed at the port of Mudros, at the Island of Lemnos - on board HMS Agamemnon, between the Ottoman Empire and Great Britain (representing the Allied powers) marking the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I (1914–18)."​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

It was brought to my attention that I needed a better citation to answer your question. In this regard, I further submit the following:

The first one is the clarification, Paragraph (a), that the Allied Powers knew that the implementation of the Balfour Declaration was going to impact certain rights of the habitual inhabitance (the non-Jewish Community).​

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The second clarification, Paragraph (b), shows the distinction between:​

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◈ Para (b-1): ...Syria and Mesopotamia shall, in accordance with the fourth paragraph of Article 22, Part I (Covenant of the League of Nations)...​

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◈ Para (b-2): ...application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory, to be selected by the said Powers...​

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(See Below)

Didn't mention anything about what you said.

(COMMENT)

I should have cited something simpler for you.

It was agreed –

(a) To accept the terms of the Mandates Article as given below with reference to Palestine, on the understanding that there was inserted in the proces-verbal an undertaking by the Mandatory Power that this would not involve the surrender of the rights hitherto enjoyed by the non-Jewish communities in Palestine; this undertaking not to refer to the question of the religious protectorate of France, which had been settled earlier in the previous afternoon by the undertaking given by the French Government that they recognized this protectorate as being at an end.

(b) that the terms of the Mandates Article should be as follows:

The High Contracting Parties agree that Syria and Mesopotamia shall, in accordance with the fourth paragraph of Article 22, Part I (Covenant of the League of Nations), be provisionally recognized as independent States, subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The boundaries of the said States will be determined, and the selection of the Mandatories made, by the Principal Allied Powers.

The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory, to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 8, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

UNISPAL SOURCE: An Agreement Made at the San Remo Conference 1920

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

The real question you have to ask is why every other inhabitant to an "A" Mandate was able to a self-governing nation EXCEPT for the Arab Palestinians?

A hundred years of occupation will do that.

Indeed, you have offered no support for any ''hundred years of occupation''.

Why do you post here when you know so little?

Palestine was occupied by Britain in 1917. Palestine was occupied by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel in 1948. Israel took over the occupation of all of Palestine in 1967. That occupation continues to today.

Indeed, why do you post here when you don't know the facts? The loosely defined geographic area called Palestine was controlled by various parties over the last 1,000 years.

Indeed, you continue with your quaint, Disney'fied version of some Arab-Islamist wonderland that never existed.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.

Link?

Indeed, do you need a link to details of the Ottoman Caliphate or something else?

Irrelevant question. The Ottoman Empire fell in 1923. Palestine was under British occupation from 1917 t0 1948.

Irrelevant sidestep. The Ottoman Empire controlled the land area commonly called Palestine for hundreds of years.