Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Sixties Fan]

Palestine isn’t a Hebrew or Arabic word. The Greeks used it to describe the area. And when the Romans and their Arab mercenaries repressed the indigenous Jewish population, they renamed it all Palestine.

Palestine, after the Philistines: but why did the Greeks and Romans name the area after the Philistines?

The Philistines were one of the Greek origin sea peoples who had originally invaded and colonized the area. The Jewish resistance to Philistine colonialism is chronicled in the histories of Samson, King Saul and King David. It was natural for the Greek and Roman colonies that the Jews of the Second Temple era clashed with to use “Palestine”, the name associated with earlier colonies, to refer to their new colonies.

(full article online)

Sultan Knish: The Big Palestine Lie

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine isn’t a Hebrew or Arabic word. The Greeks used it to describe the area. And when the Romans and their Arab mercenaries repressed the indigenous Jewish population, they renamed it all Palestine.

Palestine, after the Philistines: but why did the Greeks and Romans name the area after the Philistines?

The Philistines were one of the Greek origin sea peoples who had originally invaded and colonized the area. The Jewish resistance to Philistine colonialism is chronicled in the histories of Samson, King Saul and King David. It was natural for the Greek and Roman colonies that the Jews of the Second Temple era clashed with to use “Palestine”, the name associated with earlier colonies, to refer to their new colonies.

(full article online)

Sultan Knish: The Big Palestine Lie

So?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestine isn’t a Hebrew or Arabic word. The Greeks used it to describe the area. And when the Romans and their Arab mercenaries repressed the indigenous Jewish population, they renamed it all Palestine.

Palestine, after the Philistines: but why did the Greeks and Romans name the area after the Philistines?

The Philistines were one of the Greek origin sea peoples who had originally invaded and colonized the area. The Jewish resistance to Philistine colonialism is chronicled in the histories of Samson, King Saul and King David. It was natural for the Greek and Roman colonies that the Jews of the Second Temple era clashed with to use “Palestine”, the name associated with earlier colonies, to refer to their new colonies.

(full article online)

Sultan Knish: The Big Palestine Lie

So....

When you learn to love history and respect it....

Get back to us

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Unemployment is high, so is poverty......by Millions must be spent for Abbas' comfort ]

Even as the Palestinian Authority faces major funding cuts from the US, it has purchased a new luxurious $50 million private jet to be used by President Mahmoud Abbas, Hadashot news reported Wednesday.

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

(full article online)

Amid funding cut fears, PA purchases $50 million private jet for Abbas — report

 

[ForeverYoung436]

[ Unemployment is high, so is poverty......by Millions must be spent for Abbas' comfort ]

Even as the Palestinian Authority faces major funding cuts from the US, it has purchased a new luxurious $50 million private jet to be used by President Mahmoud Abbas, Hadashot news reported Wednesday.

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

(full article online)

Amid funding cut fears, PA purchases $50 million private jet for Abbas — report

Outrageous.

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ Unemployment is high, so is poverty......by Millions must be spent for Abbas' comfort ]

Even as the Palestinian Authority faces major funding cuts from the US, it has purchased a new luxurious $50 million private jet to be used by President Mahmoud Abbas, Hadashot news reported Wednesday.

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

(full article online)

Amid funding cut fears, PA purchases $50 million private jet for Abbas — report

What can you expect for a foreign appointed oligarch?

 

[Hollie]

[ Unemployment is high, so is poverty......by Millions must be spent for Abbas' comfort ]

Even as the Palestinian Authority faces major funding cuts from the US, it has purchased a new luxurious $50 million private jet to be used by President Mahmoud Abbas, Hadashot news reported Wednesday.

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

(full article online)

Amid funding cut fears, PA purchases $50 million private jet for Abbas — report

What can you expect for a foreign appointed oligarch?

There you go again, denigrating a true hero of a mini-caliphate.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Unemployment is high, so is poverty......by Millions must be spent for Abbas' comfort ]

Even as the Palestinian Authority faces major funding cuts from the US, it has purchased a new luxurious $50 million private jet to be used by President Mahmoud Abbas, Hadashot news reported Wednesday.

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

(full article online)

Amid funding cut fears, PA purchases $50 million private jet for Abbas — report

What can you expect for a foreign appointed oligarch?

[He can only be a foreign appointed oligarch if YOU choose to continue to live under rocks, and you continue to insist that Israel does not exist, that the Jews are "polyester" Jews and not the indigenous people of the land which was invaded by Abbas' ancestors or fellow Arab clans]

Timeline:
1959 - Founding member of the Palestinian National Liberation Movement (Fatah), which became the largest political group of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO).
1964 - Fatah joins the PLO.
1967 - Is appointed to Fatah's Central Committee.
1968 - Joins the Palestinian National Council (PNC).
1980 - Is elected to the PLO's Executive Committee.
September 1993 - Accompanies Arafat to the White House to sign the Oslo Accords, or the Declaration of Principles.

 

[admonit]

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

Prime minister’s private jet flying over-budget

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

Prime minister’s private jet flying over-budget

He is yet to fly on it, if ever I would say.
Yeahp, the possible waste of money is a sting, but it is not coming from the endless donations Abbas gets to make his people's lives better, which he refuses to do.

Palestine, not a State.
Israel, a State.

Palestine, not a wealthy country which gives nothing but terrorism to the world.
Israel, a wealthy country which gives from health to agriculture to technology to the world.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

Prime minister’s private jet flying over-budget

He is yet to fly on it, if ever I would say.
Yeahp, the possible waste of money is a sting, but it is not coming from the endless donations Abbas gets to make his people's lives better, which he refuses to do.

Palestine, not a State.
Israel, a State.

Palestine, not a wealthy country which gives nothing but terrorism to the world.
Israel, a wealthy country which gives from health to agriculture to technology to the world.

What has Abbas ever done to make Palestinians life better?

Let me know if you find something.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel’s prime minister does not have and has never had a private plane.

Prime minister’s private jet flying over-budget

He is yet to fly on it, if ever I would say.
Yeahp, the possible waste of money is a sting, but it is not coming from the endless donations Abbas gets to make his people's lives better, which he refuses to do.

Palestine, not a State.
Israel, a State.

Palestine, not a wealthy country which gives nothing but terrorism to the world.
Israel, a wealthy country which gives from health to agriculture to technology to the world.

What has Abbas ever done to make Palestinians life better?

Let me know if you find something.

He is their President.
And how he and Arafat and all others misuse and squander the money "donated" to them, is the point.

That is what the article was about.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ The misuse and squander of money and education ]

Since 1999, Hamas has been chosen in successive internal UNRWA elections in Gaza to lead the workers union and teachers union of UNRWA, as mentors who influence generations of Palestinian refugee descendants to launch a violent Jihad for the 'right of return' to Arab villages lost during the 1948 war.


In that context, the first comprehensive study of UNRWA school books, completed in July 2017, reflects the terrorist domination of UNRWA schools. This study found UNRWA texts to be characterized by de-legitimization of Israel, rejection of the Jews’ very presence in the country, demonization of Israel and the Jewish people, while promoting the violent liberation of all of Palestine – including Israel’s pre-1967 territories – instead of adhering to UN values of peace and co-existence.

Moreover, UNRWA schools encourage children to engage in acts of war by way of presenting war against Israel as an inevitable necessity, including the violent return of the descendants of Arab refugees to a liberated pre-67 Palestine, through veneration of Jihad, martyrdom and Palestinian individuals who participate in the armed rebellion (called Fidais – those who sacrifice themselves, or martyrs and prisoners-of-war when killed or imprisoned). A decisive element in the UNRWA indoctrination is the inclusion of the official anthems of both the Palestinian Authority and its dominant body – the Fatah organization – which are taught to students of the lower grades:

(full article online)

Should UNRWA schools be padlocked?

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ The misuse and squander of money and education ]

Since 1999, Hamas has been chosen in successive internal UNRWA elections in Gaza to lead the workers union and teachers union of UNRWA, as mentors who influence generations of Palestinian refugee descendants to launch a violent Jihad for the 'right of return' to Arab villages lost during the 1948 war.


In that context, the first comprehensive study of UNRWA school books, completed in July 2017, reflects the terrorist domination of UNRWA schools. This study found UNRWA texts to be characterized by de-legitimization of Israel, rejection of the Jews’ very presence in the country, demonization of Israel and the Jewish people, while promoting the violent liberation of all of Palestine – including Israel’s pre-1967 territories – instead of adhering to UN values of peace and co-existence.

Moreover, UNRWA schools encourage children to engage in acts of war by way of presenting war against Israel as an inevitable necessity, including the violent return of the descendants of Arab refugees to a liberated pre-67 Palestine, through veneration of Jihad, martyrdom and Palestinian individuals who participate in the armed rebellion (called Fidais – those who sacrifice themselves, or martyrs and prisoners-of-war when killed or imprisoned). A decisive element in the UNRWA indoctrination is the inclusion of the official anthems of both the Palestinian Authority and its dominant body – the Fatah organization – which are taught to students of the lower grades:

(full article online)

Should UNRWA schools be padlocked?

Israel has always been trying to get UNWRA to teach Israel's bullshit version of history.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ fanger, et al,

Well, you're really stretching the true when you say this.

Thats rich coming from $30,000,000,000 welfare recipient, israel

(COMMENT)

The US does NOT render any monetary support for Israel use in the assistance provided to individuals and organizations to help the unemployed, those with illness or disability, the elderly, those with dependent children, veterans or the maintain Works Agency for Refugees. This is what is considered welfare payments. In this regard, Israel can independently maintain themselves.

The UN Relief and Works Agency - for Palestinians (UNRWA) Commissioner-General recently implied that the abrupt cut in US contributions to the UNRWA would be "harmful and risked destabilizing the Middle East." This is a bit odd in that the Mahmoud Abbas made light about the insignificance of the US Donation, and saying the Palestinians do not need it. Yet over twenty International Humanitarian Groups have requested the US to reconsider, citing "dire consequences" in the action.

BTW: IF the US is placed in the position that it MUST make the contribution
or be responsible for regional destabilization and adverse consequences, THEN
the contribution is no longer a donation - but becomes a form of blackmail.
It becomes conditional: Pay-up or else! (Be responsible for the consequences.)

Q: What is the better position for the US to maintain?

✪ ⇒ America, while making contributions, take abuse from the
pro-Palestinian collaborators. (We pay for the abuse here.)
✪ ⇒ America, stops making contributions, and takes abuse from
the pro-Palestinian collaborators. (We get the abuse free here.)
​

There is no requirement for the Americans to explain why they would make certain contributions and not others; --- or why --- America gives certain types of aid to one country and not others. Americans do not have to explain or justify these actions. (It does so as a matter of diplomatic protocol - in the maintenance of international peace and security and for the development of Friendly relations.) And America, as a nation, is not responsible for maintaining the Regional Peace in the Middle East, or elsewhere in the world. America takes council from its own, and advise from others. But at the end of the day, it must be (to a degree) utilitarian; working in its own best interest.

While the US has agreed to provide $3Billion per year (for the next 10 years) in military aid to Israel, it is not so dissimilar to the military aid it opened up to Egypt in 2014 ($575M). But these military aid packages are contingent on the advancement of the US Agenda and Interests (military, political, economic, industrial and commercial) which Israel might be able to assst the US with. As in the case of Egypt, the US has decided (this year) to withhold some military aid ($195M) and other developmental aid of the improvement of the impoverished ($96M) over a dispute about the restrictions placed on certain Human Rights groups.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

1) That UNRWA hand over all of its responsibilities to UNHCR and close up shop, completely and permanently.

2) That UNHCR bring in its own personnel at least at the managerial level, and commit to ending all cooperation with terrorists. (e.g. by employing Hamas personnel and allowing Hamas to store weapons and tunnel entrances in its facilities.)

3) That UNHCR identify who/how many of the people registered as eligible for UNRWA services actually meet UNHCR’s definition of refugees. Only the latter would be eligible for services/aid from UNHCR.

4) That UNHCR review all educational materials and revise/remove anti-Israel and anti-Semitic propaganda from them.

5) That UNHCR prepare a written plan to integrate Palestinian refugees into their host countries and/or resettle them in another country outside of the conflict zone.

(full article online)

Beyond the Money: A Modest Proposal to Remake UNRWA

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Would the results be any different if the PA / UNWRA curriculum in the Palestinian schools were different than what they are ? ]

A joint poll by the Tami Steinmetz Center for Peace Research (TSC), Tel Aviv University and the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) shows that Palestinians are against any possible solution to the conflict.

(full article online)

New poll shows Palestinian Arabs don't want peace, under ANY circumstances ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

So it is possible. There's no cosmic force, no unbreachable journalistic rule, preventing mainstream American publications from focusing on Mahmoud Abbas's indiscretions.

We know this because The Atlantic did just that — addressed vile rhetoric by the Palestinian president — and nothing happened, aside from the expected: Readers were told what the Palestinian president said, and ended up more fully informed about the man and the conflict he has failed to resolve.

Forthright reporting on Abbas shouldn't be so hard. But too many in the media have struggled with the task. The ugliest of utterances from his mouth have been concealed by those tasked with reporting on them, those same journalists who otherwise seem to believe the Arab-Israeli conflict is the epicenter of world news. So when Abbas recently said, in reference to Jews, that there is "no one better at falsifying history or religion than them," citing God himself to substantiate the anti-Semitic libel, the media silence was deafening.

(full article online)

CAMERA: Breaking the Media Silence on Mahmoud Abbas

 

[Sixties Fan]

There's a dispute among Arabists if Abbas' remark that "If you have weapons, go ahead. I'm with you, and I will help you. Anyone who has weapons can go ahead" was a cynical remark rather than a serious statement.

They note that in the same remarks, Abbas said he supports only "peaceful popular resistance" - which is Arabic for trying to murder people "only" with fire bombs and rocks.

But that's not the point.

The question isn't the rhetoric. It’s the action.

Pop quiz:

Here are two statements:

#1. If you have weapons, go ahead. I'm with you, and I will help you.

#2. I support peaceful popular resistance.

Here is a policy:

Any Palestinian who is sent to Israeli prison for murdering Israelis - no matter what the circumstances - shall receive a salary for the rest of his life at the level of the highest security officer serving in the Palestinian Authority.

Question: Which statement matches the policy? Statement #1 or Statement #2?

If you answered "Statement #2" then you are what is known as a "useful idiot".

(full article online)

IMRA - Thursday, January 25, 2018 Weekly Commentary: Yes - Abbas Does Support Anyone Who Uses Weapons!

 

[Sixties Fan]

‘Oslo Accords are dead,’ Abbas tells Israeli left-wing leader