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''Ramadan is a month of gee-had, conquest and victory".
That must explain the dead people left in the wake of Islam's unholy month of killing.
palwatch.org
There should be no misunderstanding. The current terror wave in which 4 terrorists have murdered 14 people in terror attacks in Israel – the latest of which took place in the heart of Tel Aviv on Thursday - was initiated and is being fueled by the PA and PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party. In order to ignite and perpetuate the terror wave the PA and Fatah are using all their usual methods: Implicit and direct calls for violence; demonization of Israel and Israelis; invoking the false claim that Israel/Israelis are planning to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque; attacking Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid for walking in Jerusalem; and repeating other sundry libels.
That must explain the dead people left in the wake of Islam's unholy month of killing.
The PA/Fatah initiated and fueled terror wave | PMW Analysis
Abbas’ advisor teaches Palestinians: “Ramadan is… not a month of laziness but rather … a month of Jihad, conquest, and victory”
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Abbas’ advisor teaches Palestinians: “Ramadan is… not a month of laziness but rather … a month of Jihad, conquest, and victory”
There should be no misunderstanding. The current terror wave in which 4 terrorists have murdered 14 people in terror attacks in Israel – the latest of which took place in the heart of Tel Aviv on Thursday - was initiated and is being fueled by the PA and PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party. In order to ignite and perpetuate the terror wave the PA and Fatah are using all their usual methods: Implicit and direct calls for violence; demonization of Israel and Israelis; invoking the false claim that Israel/Israelis are planning to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque; attacking Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid for walking in Jerusalem; and repeating other sundry libels.
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The Islamic ''holy month'' of throwing firebombs.
I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. What other ''religion'' celebrates in such a way?
www.cbsnews.com
Jerusalem — Israeli forces shot and killed a Palestinian man near the city of Bethlehem in the occupied West Bank, the Palestinian health ministry said early Monday. It was the latest incident in a growing wave of violence that has erupted during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
The Israeli military said it opened fire at a man throwing a firebomb at an Israeli vehicle driving on a West Bank highway late Sunday. The shooting raised to four the number of Palestinians killed in the past 24 hours, among them an unarmed woman who was shot and killed at a military checkpoint near Bethlehem.
I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. What other ''religion'' celebrates in such a way?
Israeli forces kill 4 Palestinians as violence escalates following terror attacks
Military says man killed as he threw a firebomb at an Israeli vehicle, raising to 4 the number of Palestinians killed in 24 hours.
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Jerusalem — Israeli forces shot and killed a Palestinian man near the city of Bethlehem in the occupied West Bank, the Palestinian health ministry said early Monday. It was the latest incident in a growing wave of violence that has erupted during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
The Israeli military said it opened fire at a man throwing a firebomb at an Israeli vehicle driving on a West Bank highway late Sunday. The shooting raised to four the number of Palestinians killed in the past 24 hours, among them an unarmed woman who was shot and killed at a military checkpoint near Bethlehem.
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Palestinian media emphasize that she was injured in the explosion, as if that is evidence that she couldn't have exploded the gas cylinder on purpose. Initially they claimed that the explosion was an electrical fire in the car, and then they said that a gas cylinder spontaneously exploded nowhere near a checkpoint and she was arrested anyway with no evidence.
The reality:
Israa Jaradat also had a history of suicide attempts, so it makes perfect sense that she wanted to kill some Israelis in a suicide attack so her family would get lifetime salaries.
Another woman whom Palestinians try to elicit sympathy for is Ataaf Jaradat, who they claim was arrested as collective punishment for her sons being involved in murdering Yehuda Dimentman late last year.
The truth?
The entire Jaradat family are members of Islamic Jihad, and others have been involved in terror attacks. As far as Ataaf is concerned:
(full article online)
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The reality:
Israa Jaradat also had a history of suicide attempts, so it makes perfect sense that she wanted to kill some Israelis in a suicide attack so her family would get lifetime salaries.
Another woman whom Palestinians try to elicit sympathy for is Ataaf Jaradat, who they claim was arrested as collective punishment for her sons being involved in murdering Yehuda Dimentman late last year.
The truth?
The entire Jaradat family are members of Islamic Jihad, and others have been involved in terror attacks. As far as Ataaf is concerned:
It takes time to research the circumstances of each woman that Palestinians claim were wrongfully arrested, because the Internet is filled with false stories of their innocence. But when you spend the time, invariably you find that these "innocent" women are not at all innocent.
(full article online)
The huge number of Palestinian women prisoners: 31. And, yes, they are terrorists.
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- [T]he celebrations once again prove that a Palestinian who murders a Jew is a hero, whereas one who seeks peace with Israel is a traitor.
- Here is an inconvenient truth for Blinken: the poll that was conducted one week before he arrived in Ramallah, the de facto capital of the Palestinians, showed that most Palestinians (58%) are opposed to the two-state solution. Why? They do not believe in Israel's right to exist.
- These Palestinians want peace without Israel, not peace with Israel. The only peace they envision is one where Israel would cease to exist.
- That is why -- as this and previous polls have shown -- most Palestinians continue to support Hamas, whose charter openly calls for the elimination of Israel.
- Praising the recent wave of terror attacks in Israel, Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar said on April 9, "These recurring heroic operations prove a clear fact -- that there is no future for the Jews on our Palestinian land."
- t is leaders such as Zahar whom the Palestinians would prefer as their president. A Palestinian leader who talks about destroying Israel or murdering Jews has a better chance of being elected than one who states that he is opposed to terrorism and wants to work towards achieving a two-state solution.
[*]Palestinians have been radicalized... by their leaders to the point where peace with Israel or a two-state solution is seen as an opportunity to slaughter.
[*]The Biden administration, meanwhile, continues to pretend that Abbas and his government are credible partners, and that Israelis and Americans can do business with them.
[*]It would have been more useful had Blinken denounced the celebrations and publicly pressured the Palestinian leadership immediately to halt the massive campaign of incitement against Israel and the glorification of Palestinians who murder Jews.
[*]It is time for the Biden administration and other Western donors to start banging on the table and demanding an end to the poisonous campaign to delegitimize Israel and demonize Jews. Until that happens, we will continue to see Palestinians dancing and handing out candy because Jewish blood flows at their feet.
(full article online)
Why Palestinians Celebrate the Murder of Jews
[T]he celebrations once again prove that a Palestinian who murders a Jew is a hero, whereas one who seeks peace with Israel is a traitor. Here is an inconvenient truth for Blinken: the poll that was conducted one week before he arrived in Ramallah, the
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What an audacious idea; the PA is liable for their actions.
It’s difficult to know what this could mean in terms of civil, criminal liability. I think for most infidels here in the Great Satan, it seems obvious that an individual or entity that actively promotes violence and killing and then offers financial rewards for those who are violent and kill would be quickly brought before the law. In the alternate reality of Islamic terrorism and a perceived entitlement to lawlessness and killing, - and to include international welfare contributions that have allowed Islamic terrorist killers to continue - matters are more complicated.
www.timesofisrael.com
The High Court of Justice on Sunday ruled that the Palestinian Authority can be held liable for terrorist acts, due to its controversial policy of paying stipends to security prisoners in Israeli jails and the families of those killed during attacks on Israelis.
Justice Yitzhak Amit, setting out the majority ruling, found that the decision to pay convicted Palestinian terrorists and those killed as part of the “struggle against Israel” makes the PA liable for their actions.
It’s difficult to know what this could mean in terms of civil, criminal liability. I think for most infidels here in the Great Satan, it seems obvious that an individual or entity that actively promotes violence and killing and then offers financial rewards for those who are violent and kill would be quickly brought before the law. In the alternate reality of Islamic terrorism and a perceived entitlement to lawlessness and killing, - and to include international welfare contributions that have allowed Islamic terrorist killers to continue - matters are more complicated.
High Court: PA liable for terrorism due to money it pays attackers; victims can sue
Justice Isaac Amit rules that the Palestinian leadership 'expresses its consent' to attacks through its controversial stipends to terrorists and their relatives
www.timesofisrael.com
The High Court of Justice on Sunday ruled that the Palestinian Authority can be held liable for terrorist acts, due to its controversial policy of paying stipends to security prisoners in Israeli jails and the families of those killed during attacks on Israelis.
Justice Yitzhak Amit, setting out the majority ruling, found that the decision to pay convicted Palestinian terrorists and those killed as part of the “struggle against Israel” makes the PA liable for their actions.
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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: The Culture of Death
⁜→ Sixties Fan, et al,
The culture of death over peace is something that we have known since the passing of Yasser Arafat. It is a culture that is not likely to change. What I find interesting is that the culture is largely ignored by the power brokers inside the DC Beltway, and completely beyond the understanding of the White House. And these two fault create the corruption of the mainstream media and the open exchanges on many social media outlets.
This Culture of Death openly uses social media or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented.
The Congress and the White House inadvertently feed each other in the ways that they address or ignore the actual ground truth. And how anyone could put any faith at all in any assessment by the US Intelligence Community is simply beyond those in the know. Together, Congress and the White House reward the Arab Palestinian for:
While it is obvious that the Congress and the White House are only interested in their accumulation and improvement of "personal" wealth, influence, and power for themselves, they actually have lost those very same attributes on the "national" level when it comes to achieving objectives that made America once the leader of the free world. Outside the rarefied gasses of the beltway, the lost prestige of America cannot be overstated. Jobs, industry, and promise are scraped away every day. All the ability (diplomatic, financial, political, economic, commercial, and military) of America lost in the last half century has been due to the Washington Leadership.
We should take notice that although the title "Arab Palestinians" is, for the most part, an euphemism for Criminals Acting directly against Israel with the intention of → causing death to the civilian Jewish population, the purpose of such activity is not to achieve political objectives (freedom, independence, sovereignty) but to continue the financial flow of capital to improve the personal wealth, influence and power of certain members of the leadership. Everything else is for show. If the Arab Palestinian Leadership was actually working in the best interest of the people, peace and security would have been achieved decades ago.
Most Respectfully,
R
SUBTOPIC: The Culture of Death
⁜→ Sixties Fan, et al,
The culture of death over peace is something that we have known since the passing of Yasser Arafat. It is a culture that is not likely to change. What I find interesting is that the culture is largely ignored by the power brokers inside the DC Beltway, and completely beyond the understanding of the White House. And these two fault create the corruption of the mainstream media and the open exchanges on many social media outlets.
(COMMENT)Why Palestinians Celebrate the Murder of Jews
by Khaled Abu Toameh April 12, 2022 at 5:00 am
Why Palestinians Celebrate the Murder of Jews
[T]he celebrations once again prove that a Palestinian who murders a Jew is a hero, whereas one who seeks peace with Israel is a traitor. Here is an inconvenient truth for Blinken: the poll that was conducted one week before he arrived in Ramallah, thewww.gatestoneinstitute.org
• [T]he celebrations once again prove that a Palestinian who murders a Jew is a hero,
whereas one who seeks peace with Israel is a traitor.
This Culture of Death openly uses social media or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented.
The Congress and the White House inadvertently feed each other in the ways that they address or ignore the actual ground truth. And how anyone could put any faith at all in any assessment by the US Intelligence Community is simply beyond those in the know. Together, Congress and the White House reward the Arab Palestinian for:
◈ The dissemination of information to pursue political strategies that influence or persuade audiences to believe the Arab Palestinians have card blanche in the continuous violation of Customary and International Humanitarian Law.
◈ The advocacy of economic and religious hatred that is amplified by the dominant hold over the various communication outlets that use misleading information presented as fact to intentionally incite hostility and violence.
◈ Together, the Congress and the White House openly reward the Arab Palestinians for violating the Geneva Convention, the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights, and the Convention on the Suppression on Terrorist Bombings.
◈ The Congress and the White House openly violate the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism by providing funding for the Arab Palestinian Leadership to continue rewarding and celebrating those Arab Palestinians that violate the Geneva Convention, the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights, and the Convention on the Suppression on Terrorist Bombings.
While it is obvious that the Congress and the White House are only interested in their accumulation and improvement of "personal" wealth, influence, and power for themselves, they actually have lost those very same attributes on the "national" level when it comes to achieving objectives that made America once the leader of the free world. Outside the rarefied gasses of the beltway, the lost prestige of America cannot be overstated. Jobs, industry, and promise are scraped away every day. All the ability (diplomatic, financial, political, economic, commercial, and military) of America lost in the last half century has been due to the Washington Leadership.
We should take notice that although the title "Arab Palestinians" is, for the most part, an euphemism for Criminals Acting directly against Israel with the intention of → causing death to the civilian Jewish population, the purpose of such activity is not to achieve political objectives (freedom, independence, sovereignty) but to continue the financial flow of capital to improve the personal wealth, influence and power of certain members of the leadership. Everything else is for show. If the Arab Palestinian Leadership was actually working in the best interest of the people, peace and security would have been achieved decades ago.
Most Respectfully,
R
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A new coordinated campaign started to pressure Israel to release a prisoner who participated in stabbing attacks in 2015.
Over the past couple of months we saw articles about Ahmed Manasra from Mondoweiss, claiming Israel is inflicting severe psychological torture on him, after Middle East Memo made the same charge.
Husam Zomlot, Head of Palestinian Mission to the UK, tweeted a thread in Manasra's defense. He includes a video of when Manasra was questioned, implying that Israeli interrogators were browbeating him into admitting his crime when he claimed he didn't remember them.
What they don't want you to see is the video of Mandara and his older cousin stabbing people.
(see video online)
They don't want you to see this video because it dissolves all sympathy for the vicious terrorist. They pretend he is still a child who cannot be in prison even though he is now 19 or 20.
He was old enough to chase two people with intent to kill them. The only people who want him released are the ones who share his desire for dead Jews.
(full article online)
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Over the past couple of months we saw articles about Ahmed Manasra from Mondoweiss, claiming Israel is inflicting severe psychological torture on him, after Middle East Memo made the same charge.
Husam Zomlot, Head of Palestinian Mission to the UK, tweeted a thread in Manasra's defense. He includes a video of when Manasra was questioned, implying that Israeli interrogators were browbeating him into admitting his crime when he claimed he didn't remember them.
What they don't want you to see is the video of Mandara and his older cousin stabbing people.
(see video online)
They don't want you to see this video because it dissolves all sympathy for the vicious terrorist. They pretend he is still a child who cannot be in prison even though he is now 19 or 20.
He was old enough to chase two people with intent to kill them. The only people who want him released are the ones who share his desire for dead Jews.
(full article online)
Palestinian campaign to release a vicious stabber from Israeli prison
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[ Give them the money, ask them not what they do with it ]
In an effort to hide its practices and prevent any external scrutiny, the PA has blocked access to all the financial reports it used to publish. Since 2008, as part of an agreement to receive funding from the World Bank, the Palestinian Authority has been required to publish a range of financial documents, including its annual budget and monthly budget performance reports. While the PA temporarily honored the commitment to publish its annual budget, it has not done so since 2019. In contrast, with the exception of a few minor incidents (exposedby Palestinian Media Watch and then rectified), the PA had been relatively meticulous in publishing its monthly budget performance reports.
Until recently, (as shown below) the website of PA Ministry of Finance provided access to all the current and previous budget performance reports.
The last PA budget performance report published was for January 2022 and was downloaded by PMW (as we have done with all the previous reports). Now, however, even this option has been blocked and the PA is preventing any outside scrutiny.
The PA’s decision to block all access to the reports on the site of the Ministry of Finance was taken after PMW used the reports to demonstrate how the PA spent 841 million shekels/$270.75 million, in 2021 alone, paying financial rewards to imprisoned terrorists, released terrorists, wounded terrorists, and the families of dead terrorists.
Amazingly, while the PA is taking active steps to prevent any semblance of financial transparency, PA Prime Minister Muhammad Shtayyeh is holding high-level meetings with UN and other officials in preparation for the upcoming gathering of the Ad-Hoc Liaison Committee (AHLC - An international group of donors that coordinates aid to the PA)
(full article online)
palwatch.org
In an effort to hide its practices and prevent any external scrutiny, the PA has blocked access to all the financial reports it used to publish. Since 2008, as part of an agreement to receive funding from the World Bank, the Palestinian Authority has been required to publish a range of financial documents, including its annual budget and monthly budget performance reports. While the PA temporarily honored the commitment to publish its annual budget, it has not done so since 2019. In contrast, with the exception of a few minor incidents (exposedby Palestinian Media Watch and then rectified), the PA had been relatively meticulous in publishing its monthly budget performance reports.
Until recently, (as shown below) the website of PA Ministry of Finance provided access to all the current and previous budget performance reports.
The last PA budget performance report published was for January 2022 and was downloaded by PMW (as we have done with all the previous reports). Now, however, even this option has been blocked and the PA is preventing any outside scrutiny.
The PA’s decision to block all access to the reports on the site of the Ministry of Finance was taken after PMW used the reports to demonstrate how the PA spent 841 million shekels/$270.75 million, in 2021 alone, paying financial rewards to imprisoned terrorists, released terrorists, wounded terrorists, and the families of dead terrorists.
Amazingly, while the PA is taking active steps to prevent any semblance of financial transparency, PA Prime Minister Muhammad Shtayyeh is holding high-level meetings with UN and other officials in preparation for the upcoming gathering of the Ad-Hoc Liaison Committee (AHLC - An international group of donors that coordinates aid to the PA)
(full article online)
Why is the PA hiding its finances from the world? | PMW Analysis
In an effort to hide its practices and prevent any external scrutiny, the PA has blocked access to all the financial reports it used to publish.
palwatch.org
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[ An Israeli Arab citizen who considers himself a Palestinian first, and not an Israeli at all ]
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[ PA, when are you going to do The Right Thing ? Stop inciting, stop paying for any murder of Jews. Where is the Oslo Accords for you? Buried along with all the Jews, and all others who have been murdered, you have incited against ]
Ramallah's perverse terror payments mechanism is being employed in Israel on a wide scale: The Palestinian Authority pays out stipends worth thousands of shekels to hundreds of relatives of Israeli citizens involved in terrorist operations. According to an investigation conducted by the defense establishment at the request of Israel Hayom, the Israeli citizens receiving the benefits are either serving prison terms for conducting terrorist operations, assisting such operations, or acting against Israel in other ways. In the event that the terrorists were eliminated while conducting terrorist operations, the payments are transferred to their relatives.
Payments range from 1,400 shekels ($436) to 12,000 shekels ($3,742) depending on the type of operation, the number of people murdered in the operation, and the length of the sentence handed down to the terrorist perpetrator. Beyond the stipend itself, there are other benefits that the prisoner and his family receive. We should note here that according to Palestinian Authority law anyone who has murdered a Jew − or the perpetrator's family − will receive a salary for life.
Payments are made according to a set tariff published by the Palestinian Authority for terrorists resident in Judea and Samaria. Under PA law, the payments continue even after the terrorist has released been released from jail. The defense establishment has confirmed that the Palestinian Authority pays these terror stipends to all terrorists, without any connection to organizational affiliation. In other words, the Palestinian Authority, which is controlled by the PLO, also makes payments to terrorists who are members of Hamas or the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Ramallah's perverse terror payments mechanism is being employed in Israel on a wide scale: The Palestinian Authority pays out stipends worth thousands of shekels to hundreds of relatives of Israeli citizens involved in terrorist operations. According to an investigation conducted by the defense establishment at the request of Israel Hayom, the Israeli citizens receiving the benefits are either serving prison terms for conducting terrorist operations, assisting such operations, or acting against Israel in other ways. In the event that the terrorists were eliminated while conducting terrorist operations, the payments are transferred to their relatives.
Payments range from 1,400 shekels ($436) to 12,000 shekels ($3,742) depending on the type of operation, the number of people murdered in the operation, and the length of the sentence handed down to the terrorist perpetrator. Beyond the stipend itself, there are other benefits that the prisoner and his family receive. We should note here that according to Palestinian Authority law anyone who has murdered a Jew − or the perpetrator's family − will receive a salary for life.
Payments are made according to a set tariff published by the Palestinian Authority for terrorists resident in Judea and Samaria. Under PA law, the payments continue even after the terrorist has released been released from jail. The defense establishment has confirmed that the Palestinian Authority pays these terror stipends to all terrorists, without any connection to organizational affiliation. In other words, the Palestinian Authority, which is controlled by the PLO, also makes payments to terrorists who are members of Hamas or the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
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