Who are the Palestinians? An Arab Invention.

[Book of Jeremiah]

...Mark Twain said Israel was like a barren wasteland when he visited, void of human beings, vegetation, life. It wasn't until the Jews returned that everything was restored to its former beauty. Once the Arabs saw the Jews return and make the land beautiful it suddenly become theirs as if they ever had a claim to it. They do not...

Got to ask, have you ever read "Innocents Abroad"? Probably not, otherwise you'd have come across the descriptions the Zionist Hasbara department leaves out, “The narrow canon in which Nablous, or Shechem, is situated, is under high cultivation, and the soil is exceedingly black and fertile. It is well watered, and its affluent vegetation gains effect by contrast with the barren hills that tower on either side” or “Sometimes, in the glens, we came upon luxuriant orchards of figs, apricots, pomegranates, and such things, but oftener the scenery was rugged, mountainous, verdureless and forbidding” or
“We came finally to the noble grove of orange-trees in which the Oriental city of Jaffa lies buried”, amongst others. This was in 1867, 15 years before the first European Jewish settlers arrived en masse in 1882. Another thing tha Hasbara department omits is the fact that 90% of these settlers left before accomplishing anything of note. Zionist epic fail number1

Hasbara was founded in 2001. Innocents Abroad was published in 1869. Your suggestion is quite impossible. Grasping at straws requires a straw to in fact be in existence. Check your dates the next time. No cigar for you.

What suggestion is that, pray tell? The fact that the Hasbara department cherry-picks Mark Twain's book about his journey in 1867 which was published in 1869 in order to provide a false picture of Palestine to promote the myth that the Zionists "made the desert bloom"? Or are you just talking out of your posterior again?

Even with those couple of left-out sentences, the majority of Twain's description of Palestine is that of a forgotten wasteland. So what if a couple of places were in bloom? Any people who aren't totally retarded could have a couple of gardens here and there.

After it has been debunked, surely you do not subscribe to the bogus notion that Palestine was empty land before the European Zionist settlement in the late nineteenth early twentieth century.

Who is native to Israel's land? Is it really the Arabs, who claim to be? Or is that just fiction? When did the Arabs settle in Israel? Do they go back to time immemorial, the way it is heard over and over in the media?

Adriani Relandi 1696 is one of the many who traveled the land and wrote about what was in the area, as did many others(all report the same findings):

Siebald Rieter,Johann Tucker, Arnold Van Harff ,Father Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik,Felix Fabri, Count Constantine Francois Volney,Alphonse de Lamartine, Mark Twain,Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith,Edward Robinson - found Palestine virtually empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Safed, Shechem, Hebron,Gaza,Ramleh,Acre, Sidon, Tyre, Haifa, Irsuf, Caesarea, and El Arish, and throughout Galilee towns - Kfar Alma, Ein Zeitim, Biria, Pekiin, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana, Kfar Yassif.

To stay, these Jews had submitted to innumerable conquerors, taxes, pogroms and degradation. But they stayed. In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857
--------------------------------
"Palaestina ex monumentis veteribus illustrata" - a detailed geographical survey of Palestine in 1696 written in Latin by Adriaan Reland published by Willem Broedelet, Utrecht, in 1714.

Residents of the country mainly concentrated in cities: Jerusalem, Acre, Safed, Jaffa, Tiberias and Gaza.

In most cities, the majority of residents are Christians, Jews and others, very few Muslims who generally are Bedouin, seasonal workers who came to serve as Seasonal workers in agriculture or building. v v
Nablus: 120 muslims, 70 Samaritans
Nazareth: 700 people - all Christians
Umm al-Fahm: 50 people-10 families, ALL Christian
Gaza: 550 people- 300 Jews,250 Christian(Jews engaged in agriculture ,Christians deal with the trading and transporting the products)
Tiberias: 300 residents, all Jews.
Safed: about 200 inhabitants, all Jews
Jerusalem :5000 people,most of them (3,500) Jews,the rest - Christian (1000) Muslim (500)

_________
So how have the Arabs gotten away with claiming they were the native inhabitants of the land, even of Jerusalem when in fact there were very few Arab Nomads seen anywhere in the vicinity?

We've seen Mark Twain's observation and it coincides with what these men had to say too. Doesn't it?


In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857.

Out of the mouths of two or three witnesses we see the matter established......... although in this particular case we have over a dozen eye witnesses all confirming Mark Twain's account .....

 

[montelatici]

This is Gaza. Take a look at this video, the luxurious homes, market places, playing at the beach, beautiful cars, market places full of fresh food and good life Israeli's have given these people. Does this look like an oppressed people? Do you see any starving people in this video? Any ethnic cleansing? No? That is because there isn't any of that going on! You've been had!!!



This is Gaza? Destitute? Deprived? Oppressed? Think again! Gated communities, beautiful homes, a lifestyle on par with any Israeli citizen. Be sure to share this video by email and message boards and let people see the Gaza that mainstream media is portraying is grossly inaccurate!

Wow, those Gazans are amazing engineers and rebuilders. You are such a tool. Stop with the propaganda, no one believes it, clown.

 

[Eloy]

Got to ask, have you ever read "Innocents Abroad"? Probably not, otherwise you'd have come across the descriptions the Zionist Hasbara department leaves out, “The narrow canon in which Nablous, or Shechem, is situated, is under high cultivation, and the soil is exceedingly black and fertile. It is well watered, and its affluent vegetation gains effect by contrast with the barren hills that tower on either side” or “Sometimes, in the glens, we came upon luxuriant orchards of figs, apricots, pomegranates, and such things, but oftener the scenery was rugged, mountainous, verdureless and forbidding” or
“We came finally to the noble grove of orange-trees in which the Oriental city of Jaffa lies buried”, amongst others. This was in 1867, 15 years before the first European Jewish settlers arrived en masse in 1882. Another thing tha Hasbara department omits is the fact that 90% of these settlers left before accomplishing anything of note. Zionist epic fail number1

Hasbara was founded in 2001. Innocents Abroad was published in 1869. Your suggestion is quite impossible. Grasping at straws requires a straw to in fact be in existence. Check your dates the next time. No cigar for you.

What suggestion is that, pray tell? The fact that the Hasbara department cherry-picks Mark Twain's book about his journey in 1867 which was published in 1869 in order to provide a false picture of Palestine to promote the myth that the Zionists "made the desert bloom"? Or are you just talking out of your posterior again?

Even with those couple of left-out sentences, the majority of Twain's description of Palestine is that of a forgotten wasteland. So what if a couple of places were in bloom? Any people who aren't totally retarded could have a couple of gardens here and there.

After it has been debunked, surely you do not subscribe to the bogus notion that Palestine was empty land before the European Zionist settlement in the late nineteenth early twentieth century.

Who is native to Israel's land? Is it really the Arabs, who claim to be? Or is that just fiction? When did the Arabs settle in Israel? Do they go back to time immemorial, the way it is heard over and over in the media?

Adriani Relandi 1696 is one of the many who traveled the land and wrote about what was in the area, as did many others(all report the same findings):

Siebald Rieter,Johann Tucker, Arnold Van Harff ,Father Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik,Felix Fabri, Count Constantine Francois Volney,Alphonse de Lamartine, Mark Twain,Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith,Edward Robinson - found Palestine virtually empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Safed, Shechem, Hebron,Gaza,Ramleh,Acre, Sidon, Tyre, Haifa, Irsuf, Caesarea, and El Arish, and throughout Galilee towns - Kfar Alma, Ein Zeitim, Biria, Pekiin, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana, Kfar Yassif.

To stay, these Jews had submitted to innumerable conquerors, taxes, pogroms and degradation. But they stayed. In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857
--------------------------------
"Palaestina ex monumentis veteribus illustrata" - a detailed geographical survey of Palestine in 1696 written in Latin by Adriaan Reland published by Willem Broedelet, Utrecht, in 1714.

Residents of the country mainly concentrated in cities: Jerusalem, Acre, Safed, Jaffa, Tiberias and Gaza.

In most cities, the majority of residents are Christians, Jews and others, very few Muslims who generally are Bedouin, seasonal workers who came to serve as Seasonal workers in agriculture or building. v v
Nablus: 120 muslims, 70 Samaritans
Nazareth: 700 people - all Christians
Umm al-Fahm: 50 people-10 families, ALL Christian
Gaza: 550 people- 300 Jews,250 Christian(Jews engaged in agriculture ,Christians deal with the trading and transporting the products)
Tiberias: 300 residents, all Jews.
Safed: about 200 inhabitants, all Jews
Jerusalem :5000 people,most of them (3,500) Jews,the rest - Christian (1000) Muslim (500)

_________
So how have the Arabs gotten away with claiming they were the native inhabitants of the land, even of Jerusalem when in fact there were very few Arab Nomads seen anywhere in the vicinity?

We've seen Mark Twain's observation and it coincides with what these men had to say too. Doesn't it?


In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857.

Out of the mouths of two or three witnesses we see the matter established......... although in this particular case we have over a dozen eye witnesses all confirming Mark Twain's account .....

You write bunk, propaganda, and fiction. There is no way to reason with you.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

This is Gaza. Take a look at this video, the luxurious homes, market places, playing at the beach, beautiful cars, market places full of fresh food and good life Israeli's have given these people. Does this look like an oppressed people? Do you see any starving people in this video? Any ethnic cleansing? No? That is because there isn't any of that going on! You've been had!!!



This is Gaza? Destitute? Deprived? Oppressed? Think again! Gated communities, beautiful homes, a lifestyle on par with any Israeli citizen. Be sure to share this video by email and message boards and let people see the Gaza that mainstream media is portraying is grossly inaccurate!

Wow, those Gazans are amazing engineers and rebuilders. You are such a tool. Stop with the propaganda, no one believes it, clown.

Notice that Hamas always uses the neighborhoods where lower income families dwell in Gaza with many women and children to use as their sandbags / shields. The Hamas used this location to launch rockets upon Israeli citizens in 2014. It was a nice neighborhood before Hamas decided to use it as a target. Notice the Arab neighborhood (from video I showed you) that is nicely intact and untouched behind this scene? They don't use their own neighborhoods to launch these attacks. They like to keep their own homes untouched. Pretty rotten, isn't it? You need to start going after the real terrorists. HAMAS. This is what they do to their own people!

For the reader: Montelatici doesn't believe Israeli's have the right to defend themselves and return rocket fire against Hamas strongholds during an attack. He would rather the Israelis do nothing and die quietly without any response. As you can see, the reality is that when Hamas launches an attack on Israeli civilians out of Gaza? The Israelis will respond to that location regardless of who lives there. The IDF does distribute flyers in advance from the air (IAF) warning civilians to leave before they return fire which is something unique as no other nation under attack would first warn its enemy's civilian population to leave before returning fire. What Montelatici doesn't tell you is that these buildings were emptied of people before they were bombed.

 

[montelatici]

Got to ask, have you ever read "Innocents Abroad"? Probably not, otherwise you'd have come across the descriptions the Zionist Hasbara department leaves out, “The narrow canon in which Nablous, or Shechem, is situated, is under high cultivation, and the soil is exceedingly black and fertile. It is well watered, and its affluent vegetation gains effect by contrast with the barren hills that tower on either side” or “Sometimes, in the glens, we came upon luxuriant orchards of figs, apricots, pomegranates, and such things, but oftener the scenery was rugged, mountainous, verdureless and forbidding” or
“We came finally to the noble grove of orange-trees in which the Oriental city of Jaffa lies buried”, amongst others. This was in 1867, 15 years before the first European Jewish settlers arrived en masse in 1882. Another thing tha Hasbara department omits is the fact that 90% of these settlers left before accomplishing anything of note. Zionist epic fail number1

Hasbara was founded in 2001. Innocents Abroad was published in 1869. Your suggestion is quite impossible. Grasping at straws requires a straw to in fact be in existence. Check your dates the next time. No cigar for you.

What suggestion is that, pray tell? The fact that the Hasbara department cherry-picks Mark Twain's book about his journey in 1867 which was published in 1869 in order to provide a false picture of Palestine to promote the myth that the Zionists "made the desert bloom"? Or are you just talking out of your posterior again?

Even with those couple of left-out sentences, the majority of Twain's description of Palestine is that of a forgotten wasteland. So what if a couple of places were in bloom? Any people who aren't totally retarded could have a couple of gardens here and there.

After it has been debunked, surely you do not subscribe to the bogus notion that Palestine was empty land before the European Zionist settlement in the late nineteenth early twentieth century.

Who is native to Israel's land? Is it really the Arabs, who claim to be? Or is that just fiction? When did the Arabs settle in Israel? Do they go back to time immemorial, the way it is heard over and over in the media?

Adriani Relandi 1696 is one of the many who traveled the land and wrote about what was in the area, as did many others(all report the same findings):

Siebald Rieter,Johann Tucker, Arnold Van Harff ,Father Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik,Felix Fabri, Count Constantine Francois Volney,Alphonse de Lamartine, Mark Twain,Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith,Edward Robinson - found Palestine virtually empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Safed, Shechem, Hebron,Gaza,Ramleh,Acre, Sidon, Tyre, Haifa, Irsuf, Caesarea, and El Arish, and throughout Galilee towns - Kfar Alma, Ein Zeitim, Biria, Pekiin, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana, Kfar Yassif.

To stay, these Jews had submitted to innumerable conquerors, taxes, pogroms and degradation. But they stayed. In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857
--------------------------------
"Palaestina ex monumentis veteribus illustrata" - a detailed geographical survey of Palestine in 1696 written in Latin by Adriaan Reland published by Willem Broedelet, Utrecht, in 1714.

Residents of the country mainly concentrated in cities: Jerusalem, Acre, Safed, Jaffa, Tiberias and Gaza.

In most cities, the majority of residents are Christians, Jews and others, very few Muslims who generally are Bedouin, seasonal workers who came to serve as Seasonal workers in agriculture or building. v v
Nablus: 120 muslims, 70 Samaritans
Nazareth: 700 people - all Christians
Umm al-Fahm: 50 people-10 families, ALL Christian
Gaza: 550 people- 300 Jews,250 Christian(Jews engaged in agriculture ,Christians deal with the trading and transporting the products)
Tiberias: 300 residents, all Jews.
Safed: about 200 inhabitants, all Jews
Jerusalem :5000 people,most of them (3,500) Jews,the rest - Christian (1000) Muslim (500)

_________
So how have the Arabs gotten away with claiming they were the native inhabitants of the land, even of Jerusalem when in fact there were very few Arab Nomads seen anywhere in the vicinity?

We've seen Mark Twain's observation and it coincides with what these men had to say too. Doesn't it?


In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857.

Out of the mouths of two or three witnesses we see the matter established......... although in this particular case we have over a dozen eye witnesses all confirming Mark Twain's account .....

Ahhh, turbo propaganda. No one believes that crap anymore, it has been debunked, don't you get it? We have the facts, we don't believe the alternate facts anymore. And the facts are accessible in the UN archives to anyone. We also have actual film, something that was not available before, that demonstrates that you only have propaganda and lies to offer.

Notice he doesn't dare show the Hasbara sites he got the lies from. Now the facts with a link to the UN archives:

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

And the film from 1896 is remarkably consistent with the Mandatory's report (above) written 25 years later.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Hasbara was founded in 2001. Innocents Abroad was published in 1869. Your suggestion is quite impossible. Grasping at straws requires a straw to in fact be in existence. Check your dates the next time. No cigar for you.

What suggestion is that, pray tell? The fact that the Hasbara department cherry-picks Mark Twain's book about his journey in 1867 which was published in 1869 in order to provide a false picture of Palestine to promote the myth that the Zionists "made the desert bloom"? Or are you just talking out of your posterior again?

Even with those couple of left-out sentences, the majority of Twain's description of Palestine is that of a forgotten wasteland. So what if a couple of places were in bloom? Any people who aren't totally retarded could have a couple of gardens here and there.

After it has been debunked, surely you do not subscribe to the bogus notion that Palestine was empty land before the European Zionist settlement in the late nineteenth early twentieth century.

Who is native to Israel's land? Is it really the Arabs, who claim to be? Or is that just fiction? When did the Arabs settle in Israel? Do they go back to time immemorial, the way it is heard over and over in the media?

Adriani Relandi 1696 is one of the many who traveled the land and wrote about what was in the area, as did many others(all report the same findings):

Siebald Rieter,Johann Tucker, Arnold Van Harff ,Father Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik,Felix Fabri, Count Constantine Francois Volney,Alphonse de Lamartine, Mark Twain,Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith,Edward Robinson - found Palestine virtually empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Safed, Shechem, Hebron,Gaza,Ramleh,Acre, Sidon, Tyre, Haifa, Irsuf, Caesarea, and El Arish, and throughout Galilee towns - Kfar Alma, Ein Zeitim, Biria, Pekiin, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana, Kfar Yassif.

To stay, these Jews had submitted to innumerable conquerors, taxes, pogroms and degradation. But they stayed. In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857
--------------------------------
"Palaestina ex monumentis veteribus illustrata" - a detailed geographical survey of Palestine in 1696 written in Latin by Adriaan Reland published by Willem Broedelet, Utrecht, in 1714.

Residents of the country mainly concentrated in cities: Jerusalem, Acre, Safed, Jaffa, Tiberias and Gaza.

In most cities, the majority of residents are Christians, Jews and others, very few Muslims who generally are Bedouin, seasonal workers who came to serve as Seasonal workers in agriculture or building. v v
Nablus: 120 muslims, 70 Samaritans
Nazareth: 700 people - all Christians
Umm al-Fahm: 50 people-10 families, ALL Christian
Gaza: 550 people- 300 Jews,250 Christian(Jews engaged in agriculture ,Christians deal with the trading and transporting the products)
Tiberias: 300 residents, all Jews.
Safed: about 200 inhabitants, all Jews
Jerusalem :5000 people,most of them (3,500) Jews,the rest - Christian (1000) Muslim (500)

_________
So how have the Arabs gotten away with claiming they were the native inhabitants of the land, even of Jerusalem when in fact there were very few Arab Nomads seen anywhere in the vicinity?

We've seen Mark Twain's observation and it coincides with what these men had to say too. Doesn't it?


In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857.

Out of the mouths of two or three witnesses we see the matter established......... although in this particular case we have over a dozen eye witnesses all confirming Mark Twain's account .....

You write bunk, propaganda, and fiction. There is no way to reason with you.

If you cannot handle the truth there is a simple solution. Leave.

 

[montelatici]

This is Gaza. Take a look at this video, the luxurious homes, market places, playing at the beach, beautiful cars, market places full of fresh food and good life Israeli's have given these people. Does this look like an oppressed people? Do you see any starving people in this video? Any ethnic cleansing? No? That is because there isn't any of that going on! You've been had!!!



This is Gaza? Destitute? Deprived? Oppressed? Think again! Gated communities, beautiful homes, a lifestyle on par with any Israeli citizen. Be sure to share this video by email and message boards and let people see the Gaza that mainstream media is portraying is grossly inaccurate!

Wow, those Gazans are amazing engineers and rebuilders. You are such a tool. Stop with the propaganda, no one believes it, clown.

Notice that Hamas always uses the neighborhoods where lower income families dwell in Gaza with many women and children to use as their sandbags / shields. The Hamas used this location to launch rockets upon Israeli citizens in 2014. It was a nice neighborhood before Hamas decided to use it as a target. Notice the Arab neighborhood (from video I showed you) that is nicely intact and untouched behind this scene? They don't use their own neighborhoods to launch these attacks. They like to keep their own homes untouched. Pretty rotten, isn't it? You need to start going after the real terrorists. HAMAS. This is what they do to their own people!

You do try hard. Hasbara has trained you well. But we all know that the Gaza video you linked was from before the 2014 attack, and that the locations shown were destroyed per the photos below. No one believes your propaganda. Your propaganda posts are hilarious and infantile. They are all from propaganda sites. Don't you know the difference?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Hasbara was founded in 2001. Innocents Abroad was published in 1869. Your suggestion is quite impossible. Grasping at straws requires a straw to in fact be in existence. Check your dates the next time. No cigar for you.

What suggestion is that, pray tell? The fact that the Hasbara department cherry-picks Mark Twain's book about his journey in 1867 which was published in 1869 in order to provide a false picture of Palestine to promote the myth that the Zionists "made the desert bloom"? Or are you just talking out of your posterior again?

Even with those couple of left-out sentences, the majority of Twain's description of Palestine is that of a forgotten wasteland. So what if a couple of places were in bloom? Any people who aren't totally retarded could have a couple of gardens here and there.

After it has been debunked, surely you do not subscribe to the bogus notion that Palestine was empty land before the European Zionist settlement in the late nineteenth early twentieth century.

Who is native to Israel's land? Is it really the Arabs, who claim to be? Or is that just fiction? When did the Arabs settle in Israel? Do they go back to time immemorial, the way it is heard over and over in the media?

Adriani Relandi 1696 is one of the many who traveled the land and wrote about what was in the area, as did many others(all report the same findings):

Siebald Rieter,Johann Tucker, Arnold Van Harff ,Father Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik,Felix Fabri, Count Constantine Francois Volney,Alphonse de Lamartine, Mark Twain,Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith,Edward Robinson - found Palestine virtually empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Safed, Shechem, Hebron,Gaza,Ramleh,Acre, Sidon, Tyre, Haifa, Irsuf, Caesarea, and El Arish, and throughout Galilee towns - Kfar Alma, Ein Zeitim, Biria, Pekiin, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana, Kfar Yassif.

To stay, these Jews had submitted to innumerable conquerors, taxes, pogroms and degradation. But they stayed. In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857
--------------------------------
"Palaestina ex monumentis veteribus illustrata" - a detailed geographical survey of Palestine in 1696 written in Latin by Adriaan Reland published by Willem Broedelet, Utrecht, in 1714.

Residents of the country mainly concentrated in cities: Jerusalem, Acre, Safed, Jaffa, Tiberias and Gaza.

In most cities, the majority of residents are Christians, Jews and others, very few Muslims who generally are Bedouin, seasonal workers who came to serve as Seasonal workers in agriculture or building. v v
Nablus: 120 muslims, 70 Samaritans
Nazareth: 700 people - all Christians
Umm al-Fahm: 50 people-10 families, ALL Christian
Gaza: 550 people- 300 Jews,250 Christian(Jews engaged in agriculture ,Christians deal with the trading and transporting the products)
Tiberias: 300 residents, all Jews.
Safed: about 200 inhabitants, all Jews
Jerusalem :5000 people,most of them (3,500) Jews,the rest - Christian (1000) Muslim (500)

_________
So how have the Arabs gotten away with claiming they were the native inhabitants of the land, even of Jerusalem when in fact there were very few Arab Nomads seen anywhere in the vicinity?

We've seen Mark Twain's observation and it coincides with what these men had to say too. Doesn't it?


In 1799, Palestine was still so much in need of people that Napoleon Bonaparte championed a full-scale return of Jews.

"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil". British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700's

"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land". Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian

"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population". James Finn, British Consul in 1857.

Out of the mouths of two or three witnesses we see the matter established......... although in this particular case we have over a dozen eye witnesses all confirming Mark Twain's account .....

Ahhh, turbo propaganda. No one believes that crap anymore, it has been debunked, don't you get it? We have the facts, we don't believe the alternate facts anymore. And the facts are accessible in the UN archives to anyone. We also have actual film, something that was not available before, that demonstrates that you only have propaganda and lies to offer.

Notice he doesn't dare show the Hasbara sites he got the lies from. Now the facts with a link to the UN archives:

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.

There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

And the film from 1896 is remarkably consistent with the Mandatory's report (above) written 25 years later.

The facts are in the UN Archives? laughing out loud........ Did you really just say that?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

This is Gaza. Take a look at this video, the luxurious homes, market places, playing at the beach, beautiful cars, market places full of fresh food and good life Israeli's have given these people. Does this look like an oppressed people? Do you see any starving people in this video? Any ethnic cleansing? No? That is because there isn't any of that going on! You've been had!!!



This is Gaza? Destitute? Deprived? Oppressed? Think again! Gated communities, beautiful homes, a lifestyle on par with any Israeli citizen. Be sure to share this video by email and message boards and let people see the Gaza that mainstream media is portraying is grossly inaccurate!

Wow, those Gazans are amazing engineers and rebuilders. You are such a tool. Stop with the propaganda, no one believes it, clown.

Notice that Hamas always uses the neighborhoods where lower income families dwell in Gaza with many women and children to use as their sandbags / shields. The Hamas used this location to launch rockets upon Israeli citizens in 2014. It was a nice neighborhood before Hamas decided to use it as a target. Notice the Arab neighborhood (from video I showed you) that is nicely intact and untouched behind this scene? They don't use their own neighborhoods to launch these attacks. They like to keep their own homes untouched. Pretty rotten, isn't it? You need to start going after the real terrorists. HAMAS. This is what they do to their own people!

You do try hard. Hasbara has trained you well. But we all know that the Gaza video you linked was from before the 2014 attack, and that the locations shown were destroyed per the photos below. No one believes your propaganda. Your propaganda posts are hilarious and infantile. They are all from propaganda sites. Don't you know the difference?

I keep telling you. I was doing this before Hasbara was created. You don't listen very well, Monte. I wasn't trained by any organization. You've been watching too many prop movies. Can you think for yourself or did you forget how to do that? It's the secret to my success...

 

[Eloy]

This is Gaza. Take a look at this video, the luxurious homes, market places, playing at the beach, beautiful cars, market places full of fresh food and good life Israeli's have given these people. Does this look like an oppressed people? Do you see any starving people in this video? Any ethnic cleansing? No? That is because there isn't any of that going on! You've been had!!!



This is Gaza? Destitute? Deprived? Oppressed? Think again! Gated communities, beautiful homes, a lifestyle on par with any Israeli citizen. Be sure to share this video by email and message boards and let people see the Gaza that mainstream media is portraying is grossly inaccurate!

Wow, those Gazans are amazing engineers and rebuilders. You are such a tool. Stop with the propaganda, no one believes it, clown.

Notice that Hamas always uses the neighborhoods where lower income families dwell in Gaza with many women and children to use as their sandbags / shields. The Hamas used this location to launch rockets upon Israeli citizens in 2014. It was a nice neighborhood before Hamas decided to use it as a target. Notice the Arab neighborhood (from video I showed you) that is nicely intact and untouched behind this scene? They don't use their own neighborhoods to launch these attacks. They like to keep their own homes untouched. Pretty rotten, isn't it? You need to start going after the real terrorists. HAMAS. This is what they do to their own people!

You do try hard. Hasbara has trained you well. But we all know that the Gaza video you linked was from before the 2014 attack, and that the locations shown were destroyed per the photos below. No one believes your propaganda. Your propaganda posts are hilarious and infantile. They are all from propaganda sites. Don't you know the difference?

I keep telling you. I was doing this before Hasbara was created. You don't listen very well, Monte. I wasn't trained by any organization. You've been watching too many prop movies. Can you think for yourself or did you forget how to do that? It's the secret to my success...

None of your posts have any persuasive content.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It's appropriate that the Zionists rely on a writer of fiction for their "facts". It is also hilarious that they don't realize that Twain wrote the same thing about Greece. For Greece he wrote.

"We saw no ploughed fields, very few villages, no trees or grass or vegetation of any kind, scarcely, and hardly ever an isolated house."

A person from the humid heavily forested south of the U.S., would view any Mediterranean land in the summer as desolate.

So that you can no longer claim I am a trained agent sent to confuse your mind.......I offer you Exhibit A: A Hamas Leader who openly tells who these "Palestinian People," are...... he says to them..... every one of you can prove your Arab roots whether you came from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, anywhere........We have blood ties. In other words? They came from Arab lands, Egyptian lands but not from Israel. Get it? You should. This Hamas leader will spell it out for you.

Listen up:

 

[montelatici]

More propaganda. I produce documented fact, from official reports archived in Government, International Orgaqnization or Academic institutions. You just regurgitate propaganda. You have been doing this crap so long you can't even see the difference. LOL

 

[Darkwind]

I have to say, a study of racial hatred using MONTELATICI as the subject would reveal a great many things about destructive emotions. His display of hatred may be a good basis for a protagonist in a novel.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

This Muslim Cleric explains there is no Palestinian people, they are Arabs. The Arabs are there for one purpose. The destruction of Israel. The Muslim Cleric goes on to clarify that he does know that the Bible clearly states that Israel was a land given to the Jews by God and that his Koran confirms that the land is a Jewish land and that there is no religious significance to the Muslim relating to Israel.

All of this was by design to infiltrate and destroy Israel and the Jews.

I do appreciate that this Muslim cleric was willing to be honest about it. He also claims that Arabs are denying the teachings of Mohammad by claiming they are "Palestinians" and denying the history of Islam.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

More propaganda. I produce documented fact, from official reports archived in Government, International Orgaqnization or Academic institutions. You just regurgitate propaganda. You have been doing this crap so long you can't even see the difference. LOL

Actually I've been preaching the Gospel for years and have only participated in a few discussions (in recent days) about the fallacy of Palestinian people - but it's like riding a bike. You never forget. Easy peasy.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I like this one, the speaker bringing the presentation is the author of "Phantom Nation: Invention of the Palestinians as an Obstacle to Peace"



On March 9, 2014, Sha'i ben-Tekoa, DeProgram Program, gave a terrific and important presentation to Children of Holocaust Survivors on his book on the invention of a Palestinian people. There is hardly a person born after 1980 (or earlier) who has any reason to believe that a Palestinian people did not exist in a country called Palestine. That is our fault for enforcing this narrative propaganda that has been the focus of the international community and the cause of the problems and danger faced by Israel. The narrative must be changed and Sha'i ben-Tekoa gives us the tools to do this. All we have to do is - DO IT!

Hired for a special project by the Office of Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, Sha'i ben-Tekoa discovered the first United Nations document using the term "Palestinians" as it is used today.

And the date was eye-opening: three years after 1967's Six-Day War. In his research into the entire UN archive dealing with the Arab war against Israel, he came across no reference to the putatively Paleolithic Palestinian people before 1970.

After completing his assignment for the Government of Israel, Mr. Ben-Tekoa dug deeper into the origins of this heretofore unheard of nationality. The Land of Israel is arguably the most written about real estate in the world over thousands of years in the scores of languages of Crusaders, conquerors, pilgrims and tourists, not one of whom ever wrote or said a word about meeting any "Palestinians" in their time in the Holy Land.

And now Ben-Tekoa has written a book about what he discovered and uncovered: the invention of a phantom nation, the "Palestinian Narrative," one of the great feats of psychological warfare in the history of Mankind. He shows how it is this generation's successor ideology to Medieval Christianity, Islam, Nazism and Communism as the current fashion in Jew-hatred a.k.a. an anti-Semitism as old as the hills.

Sha'i ben-Tekoa was born, raised and educated in the United States. He received a B.A. in Comparative Religion from Columbia University and did graduate work in same at the University of Chicago Divinity School. A traveler in Arab lands, he served in the Yom Kippur War effort of 1973. His articles on the Arab-Israeli conflict, terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, National Review, Midstream, Congress Monthly and other publications. He appeared on American Public Broadcasting's The MacNeil-Lehrer NewsHour. In preparation for 1991's historic Arab-Israeli peace conference in Madrid, he worked on assignment for the Office of the Prime Minister of Israel Yitzhak Shamir. Formerly the lead English language commentator for IsraelNationalNews.com, his Internet radio commentary and music program can be heard at www.deprogramprogram.com.

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Please feel free to share this video by email - please mass email - knowledge is power! I disagree with him in that most of our founding fathers did believe in God as Creator and personal God but there were deists among them and we know that the wheat and tares grow together. His analysis about the Roman Catholic Church having targeted the Jews he is right on the mark. He is speaking as a Jew and giving a very interesting picture of the history of Judaism and the Tanach.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I so admire this man for his boldness! When he says Palestinian is an anti-Semitic term, I could not agree with him more. It truly is an anti-Semitic word. I hate it. This website will help deprogram those who have been programmed by Arab lies that make outrageous claims against Jews and Israel in an attempt to steal their land.

DeProgram Program with Sha'i ben-Tekoa

He says that Arabs are a people who make up history in the present, they rewrite it for their own purposes. That is the crux of the problem. This is how the Arab mind works. In a nutshell.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

In 1922 the word "Palestinian" meant any resident of British Mandate Palestine, Arab, Jew, Xtian, Druid, Methodist, Jedi ... what have you.

The word "Palestinian" didn't take on its current definition of Arab Only until 1967.

According to one state dept. official it was a term that came out of Baleshinka School ( a subversive technique School in Russia) where the Russians were training Arafat on the propaganda that the Arabs were the long lost people of Palestine. It was a very carefully crafted propaganda plot that has spanned decades and was rolled out in increments (from what we can see). I'd say they ripped a page out of Josef Goebbel's playbook. Tell a lie big enough, often enough and the people (some) will believe it.

Interesting fact. They were not able to hide the fact that these Arab Palestinians never had their own language, money, flag, etc. You know, the things that people who have a history in a country have? That was missing with these long lost Palestinians.

The word Palestinian was the term used for the inhabitants of the Roman province of Palaestina and an inhabitant of the province was called a
Palaestino and is present in Roman era documents. The ancestors of the current day native Muslim and Christian inhabitants spoke various languages through the centuries. Aramaic, Latin and Greek were the most common languages before the Muslim conquest. But, the Palestinians referred to themselves as the People of Palestine in communications with the British Colonial Office in the 1920s. Repeating Zionist propaganda doesn't make it true.

Oh please. Israel was like a barren wasteland before the Jews returned to it and put their hand to that soil. Then? It blooms like a rose in the middle of the desert! Just as God said it would! Read Mark Twain's account of what it looked like over there before the Jews returned to their land.
Yes. A barren wasteland. The Jews return to their homeland after their long exile had come to an end, the land is revived and comes to life and then?.......... and then suddenly Arabs are claiming they were there all along! Baloney! I can tell you now that Mark Twain's testimony is the precise opposite and I'll take his account of what it looked like.

He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.” - quote from Mark Twain Innocents Abroad

I remember the vast knowledge Mel Fechter had about Israel in the 20's, 30s and 40s. Benyamin Kahane was killed shortly after I got on the forum they were on so I would go back and read the posts between him and Mel and marvel at the heated arguments they would have but both of them were knowledgeable and were well versed in history and the Bible. I am sure that aris2chat ,MJB12741 and Roudy can verify my claims.

Mel, wrote books on jews, he sent me all of them

Mel turned 96 on January 8th. He's still in good health and attended a party in his honor.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I have to say, a study of racial hatred using MONTELATICI as the subject would reveal a great many things about destructive emotions. His display of hatred may be a good basis for a protagonist in a novel.

Do you think he warrants a novel? Apart from his propensity for fiction, I don't find him that effective. They don't make them like they used to on these boards. They are so delicate these days! It was not that way years ago. Then again that was then.........this is now.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

More propaganda. I produce documented fact, from official reports archived in Government, International Orgaqnization or Academic institutions. You just regurgitate propaganda. You have been doing this crap so long you can't even see the difference. LOL

Laughing is a sign of nervousness. All caps are a major sign. Take a deep breath, Monte. Don't faint on me now.... you're the last one left at the moment.