Who are the Palestinians? An Arab Invention.

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This guy is serious. He doesn't believe that Muslims and Christians were 95% of the population in Palestine in the 1800s. Notwithstanding the census data and the documentary film evidence. Unbelievable.

It makes one wonder how it was possible that the Muslims and Christians still owned 85% of the land in Palestine in 1945, as surveyed by the UN. Clever those Muslims and Christians of Palestine. LOL

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The United Nations map is a lie. Look at this report:

Land Ownership in 1948 The claim is often made that in 1948 a Jewish minority owning only 5 per cent of the land of Palestine made itself master of the Arab majority, which owned 95 per cent of the land. In May 1948 the State of Israel was established in only part of the area allotted by the original League of Nations Mandate. 8.6 per cent of the land was owned by Jews and 3.3 per cent by Israeli Arabs, while 16.9 per cent had been abandoned by Arab owners who imprudently heeded the call from neighbouring countries to "get out of the way" while the invading Arab armies made short shrift of Israel. The rest of the land—over 70 per cent—had been vested in Appendix 2 127 the Mandatory Power, and accordingly reverted to the State of Israel as its legal heir. (Government of Palestine, Survey of Palestine, 1946, British Government Printer, p. 257.) The greater part of this 70 per cent consisted of the Negev, some 3,144,250 acres all told, or close to 50 per cent of the 6,580,000 acres in all of Mandatory Palestine. Known as Crown or State Lands, this was mostly uninhabited arid or semi-arid territory, inherited originally by the Mandatory Government from Turkey. In 1948 it passed to the Government of Israel. These lands had not been owned by Arab farmers—neither under the British Mandate nor under the preceding regime. Thus it is obvious that the contention that 95 per cent of the land—whether of Mandatory Palestine or of the State of Israel—had belonged to Arabs has absolutely no foundation in fact. * * •

There is perhaps no better way of concluding and summing up this study than to quote from an article entitled Is Israel a Thorn or a Flower in the Near East? by Abdul Razak Kader, the Algerian political writer, now living in exile in Paris (Jerusalem Post, Aug. 1, 1969): "The Nationalists of the states neighbouring on Israel, whether they are in the government or in business, whether Palestinian, Syrian or Lebanese, or town dwellers of tribal origin, all know that at the beginning of the century and during the British Mandate the marshy plains and stone hills were sold to the Zionists by their fathers or uncles for gold, the very gold which is often the origin of their own political or commercial careers. The nomadic or seminomadic peasants who inhabited the frontier regions know full well what the green plains, the afforested hills and the flowering fields of today's Israel were like before. "The Palestinians who are today refugees in the neighbouring countries and who were adults at the time of their flight know all this, and no anti-Zionist propaganda—pan-Arab or pan-Moslem— can make them forget that their present nationalist exploiters are the worthy sons of their feudal exploiters of yesterday and that the thorns of their life are of Arab, not Jewish, origin
http://www.wordfromjerusalem.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/the-case-for-israel-appendix2.pdf

You are too funny. You use made up propaganda from Zionist or partisan websites that try to contradict the facts based on scientific surveys undertaken by professionals. Why would the UN lie about who owned the land when it was they that were planning to steal the land from the Muslims and Christians to give it to people living in Europe? Think about it. But the UN map is not alone in defining who owned the land. There is the Survey of Palestine vol. 2, undertaken by the Anglo-American Committee on behalf of the UN in 1946.

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A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Or, para. 164 of the supplement to the UN partition resolution itself:

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OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF
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SUPPLEMENT No. 11



UNITED NATIONS
SPECIAL COMMITTEE
ON PALESTINE




REPORT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

VOLUME 1

"164. The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 per cent of the land. "

A/364 of 3 September 1947


This report, itself, says that all land which was not owned by Jews was categorized as "Arab land". It did not differentiate between land privately owned by Arabs, land not owned but cultivated by Arabs and Crown land. The land was not "in possession of Arabs" but was primarily land belonging to the Crown, which title of sovereignty passed to Israel. It does not, therefore, support your argument -- but actually works against it. You've been informed of this numerous times, by myself and now by Jeremiah.
The bottom line is the land belongs to the Jews, all of it. In my eyes, it always did. Whether someone else was in control of it for a time, during the Jews exile, it matters not a wit. The land was given to the Jews by God and they have returned to their homeland. Long Live Israel.
So God gave all the land to Jews? What a decent chap.
And then they brag about buying land in Palestine that they already owned.

Propaganda takes some strange twists that go unnoticed by shallow thinkers.
 
What has that to do with the Israeli press?
They won't confront them with the truth that there is no such thing as a Palestinian because it would cause an uproar in the international community. Political correctness has caused people to agree to many things that simply are not true.

One can only blame cognizant dissonance for Jerry's inability to accept reality.
Your reality is not reality because there is no such thing as a Palestinian no matter how many times you use the term. They don't exist. Those are Arabs and Egyptians trying to steal Israeli land.
Rather, it is the Zionists who are the brazen thieves of Palestinian land.

The Zionistsâ„¢

Other than cutting and pasting the same goofy slogans, does the Islamic terrorist hugging cabal ever make a coherent argument?
Ooooo, terrorists. :blahblah::blahblah::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
The United Nations map is a lie. Look at this report:

Land Ownership in 1948 The claim is often made that in 1948 a Jewish minority owning only 5 per cent of the land of Palestine made itself master of the Arab majority, which owned 95 per cent of the land. In May 1948 the State of Israel was established in only part of the area allotted by the original League of Nations Mandate. 8.6 per cent of the land was owned by Jews and 3.3 per cent by Israeli Arabs, while 16.9 per cent had been abandoned by Arab owners who imprudently heeded the call from neighbouring countries to "get out of the way" while the invading Arab armies made short shrift of Israel. The rest of the land—over 70 per cent—had been vested in Appendix 2 127 the Mandatory Power, and accordingly reverted to the State of Israel as its legal heir. (Government of Palestine, Survey of Palestine, 1946, British Government Printer, p. 257.) The greater part of this 70 per cent consisted of the Negev, some 3,144,250 acres all told, or close to 50 per cent of the 6,580,000 acres in all of Mandatory Palestine. Known as Crown or State Lands, this was mostly uninhabited arid or semi-arid territory, inherited originally by the Mandatory Government from Turkey. In 1948 it passed to the Government of Israel. These lands had not been owned by Arab farmers—neither under the British Mandate nor under the preceding regime. Thus it is obvious that the contention that 95 per cent of the land—whether of Mandatory Palestine or of the State of Israel—had belonged to Arabs has absolutely no foundation in fact. * * •

There is perhaps no better way of concluding and summing up this study than to quote from an article entitled Is Israel a Thorn or a Flower in the Near East? by Abdul Razak Kader, the Algerian political writer, now living in exile in Paris (Jerusalem Post, Aug. 1, 1969): "The Nationalists of the states neighbouring on Israel, whether they are in the government or in business, whether Palestinian, Syrian or Lebanese, or town dwellers of tribal origin, all know that at the beginning of the century and during the British Mandate the marshy plains and stone hills were sold to the Zionists by their fathers or uncles for gold, the very gold which is often the origin of their own political or commercial careers. The nomadic or seminomadic peasants who inhabited the frontier regions know full well what the green plains, the afforested hills and the flowering fields of today's Israel were like before. "The Palestinians who are today refugees in the neighbouring countries and who were adults at the time of their flight know all this, and no anti-Zionist propaganda—pan-Arab or pan-Moslem— can make them forget that their present nationalist exploiters are the worthy sons of their feudal exploiters of yesterday and that the thorns of their life are of Arab, not Jewish, origin
http://www.wordfromjerusalem.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/the-case-for-israel-appendix2.pdf

You are too funny. You use made up propaganda from Zionist or partisan websites that try to contradict the facts based on scientific surveys undertaken by professionals. Why would the UN lie about who owned the land when it was they that were planning to steal the land from the Muslims and Christians to give it to people living in Europe? Think about it. But the UN map is not alone in defining who owned the land. There is the Survey of Palestine vol. 2, undertaken by the Anglo-American Committee on behalf of the UN in 1946.

View attachment 114045

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Or, para. 164 of the supplement to the UN partition resolution itself:

UNITED
NATIONS
A

0.3CAE


  • General Assembly
ecblank.gif

ecblank.gif
ecblank.gif
A/364
3 September 1947
OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY



SUPPLEMENT No. 11



UNITED NATIONS
SPECIAL COMMITTEE
ON PALESTINE




REPORT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

VOLUME 1

"164. The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 per cent of the land. "

A/364 of 3 September 1947


This report, itself, says that all land which was not owned by Jews was categorized as "Arab land". It did not differentiate between land privately owned by Arabs, land not owned but cultivated by Arabs and Crown land. The land was not "in possession of Arabs" but was primarily land belonging to the Crown, which title of sovereignty passed to Israel. It does not, therefore, support your argument -- but actually works against it. You've been informed of this numerous times, by myself and now by Jeremiah.
The bottom line is the land belongs to the Jews, all of it. In my eyes, it always did. Whether someone else was in control of it for a time, during the Jews exile, it matters not a wit. The land was given to the Jews by God and they have returned to their homeland. Long Live Israel.
So God gave all the land to Jews? What a decent chap.
And then they brag about buying land in Palestine that they already owned.

Propaganda takes some strange twists that go unnoticed by shallow thinkers.

There's no need for bragging. The facts refute your mindless drivel.

Turkey transfers Ottoman land records to Palestinian Authority


Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.



What propagandists like you Islamic terrorist huggers can't understand is that the Ottoman Turks relinquished all rights and title to the land area called Pal'istan. Arab colonizers / squatters didn't own the land.
 
They won't confront them with the truth that there is no such thing as a Palestinian because it would cause an uproar in the international community. Political correctness has caused people to agree to many things that simply are not true.

One can only blame cognizant dissonance for Jerry's inability to accept reality.
Your reality is not reality because there is no such thing as a Palestinian no matter how many times you use the term. They don't exist. Those are Arabs and Egyptians trying to steal Israeli land.
Rather, it is the Zionists who are the brazen thieves of Palestinian land.

The Zionistsâ„¢

Other than cutting and pasting the same goofy slogans, does the Islamic terrorist hugging cabal ever make a coherent argument?
Ooooo, terrorists. :blahblah::blahblah::laugh::laugh::laugh:

It's hilarious watching you get so befuddled, you're reduced to mere babbling.
 
I have to say, a study of racial hatred using MONTELATICI as the subject would reveal a great many things about destructive emotions. His display of hatred may be a good basis for a protagonist in a novel.
Don't you think it is dangerous to mix truth and fiction?
Not at all. Some of the best fiction is based upon some truth.
There are some novels that are actually true but written as novels to protect the author and some of the subjects involved.
I think it is best you stick to fiction.
I've never had any interest in fiction. You can keep your fiction and I'll keep presenting the facts. We'll see which one wins out in the end.
 
I hardly think that is what has caused you to crack up. More likely it has something to do with unresolved anger, hatred, jealousy of Israelis who are not moved by the failed propaganda tactics of your Arab brethren. After losing 6 wars to the Israeli's and failing in the current propaganda war, it might be time to reconsider the direction in which you are headed.

I have no Arab brethren, I am of Western European extraction and a Roman Catholic, I just present facts.
When can we expect to see any of those facts? All I've seen is propaganda films, articles and lies protecting terrorist organizations such as Hamas. Here's a fact for you in living color:

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Sure, a silly photoshop piece of propaganda makes a point. LOL You do realize you continue to be a clown.
Once again I'll remind you refrain from personal attacks and address the OP or discussion at hand. USMB rules apply to you as well as others.
Your post is off-topic.
So is yours. Your point?
 
Didn't you listen to the Muslim Cleric in youtube video interview? He made it clear that they NEVER EXISTED. He admitted they were Arabs and Egyptians and that they had no religious connection to the land - he even said that the Koran proved there was no religious connection to Israel and that the Koran noted Israel as a land given to the Jews by God. It does not get anymore clear. Stop listening to the liars at the UN who are trying to keep this conflict going in order to use it to their own advantage.
I have no interest in listening to a Muslim cleric. Sorry.
In other words, you have no interest in hearing the truth from anyone. You're right. You are sorry.

The facts are from official documents, not propaganda sites. LOL
The UN documents are falsified because the UN has an agenda against Israel. That is common knowledge. I reject the U.N. and their documents, their accusations against Israel, their resolutions,the whole shooting match.
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In other words, the party is over.
Haven't you covered yourself with enough inanity without appealing to Donald Trump as someone to be believed.
Any president who suggests we get out of the U.N. has my full attention. I'm all for it. The U.N. has been of no benefit to America or Israel. We're now fighting their wars and bypassing Congress and our own Constitution in doing so. What next? Surrender our sovereignty and erase our borders? Become like Europe? No thanks. Time to say good bye and show them the door.
 
The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.
So?
Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.
Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.
I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.
I neither know nor care what is in the Koran.
Neither do I but for the sake of proving that the Arabs had never claimed any holy site in Israel as their own (throughout history - how old is the Qur'an?) it serves its purpose.. Mohammad knew that Israel belonged to the Jews.
I am assured that the Al-Aqsa Mosque is the third holiest site in Islam.
It was a Jewish synagogue and later a Cathedral (church) before it was converted into a Mosque. It doesn't belong there. Move it to Mecca.
 
This is Gaza. Take a look at this video, the luxurious homes, market places, playing at the beach, beautiful cars, market places full of fresh food and good life Israeli's have given these people. Does this look like an oppressed people? Do you see any starving people in this video? Any ethnic cleansing? No? That is because there isn't any of that going on! You've been had!!!



This is Gaza? Destitute? Deprived? Oppressed? Think again! Gated communities, beautiful homes, a lifestyle on par with any Israeli citizen. Be sure to share this video by email and message boards and let people see the Gaza that mainstream media is portraying is grossly inaccurate!


This reminds me of an interesting thing I noticed on my trips to Israel. All the cars with Israeli plates (you guys know, the yellow ones) were pretty much small economy cars. And sure, many of the cars with the Palestinian plates (you know, the white ones with green writing) were small as well, but I saw a fair amount of big nice Mercedes' with Pali plates.
 
I have to say, a study of racial hatred using MONTELATICI as the subject would reveal a great many things about destructive emotions. His display of hatred may be a good basis for a protagonist in a novel.
Don't you think it is dangerous to mix truth and fiction?
Not at all. Some of the best fiction is based upon some truth.
There are some novels that are actually true but written as novels to protect the author and some of the subjects involved.
I think it is best you stick to fiction.
I've never had any interest in fiction. You can keep your fiction and I'll keep presenting the facts. We'll see which one wins out in the end.

You have only presented Zionist propaganda from propaganda sites. Fake information.
 
<snip> If I ever visited Israel (and I have never gone over) I would go with a 2 way ticket as a guest and not wear out my welcome! That land belongs to the Jews. Period.

You REALLY need to go visit. I've been twice and it really helps put this whole thing into perspective as to how much these pro pals lie about the Israelis.
 
<snip>and a Roman Catholic<snip>

Keep digging monti. If you are a Roman Catholic, why do you many times refer to the Bible as a fairy tale? Your lies and hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You are mistaken, I have never said the Bible, my Bible, is a fairy tale. You are obviously not religious and are not aware that we believe in the New Testament. The old testament is obsolete for us.


"Hebrews 8:13 â–º


By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

You really have a knack for making a fool of yourself, by showing your abject ignorance. LOL
 
<snip>and a Roman Catholic<snip>

Keep digging monti. If you are a Roman Catholic, why do you many times refer to the Bible as a fairy tale? Your lies and hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You are mistaken, I have never said the Bible, my Bible, is a fairy tale. You are obviously not religious and are not aware that we believe in the New Testament. The old testament is obsolete for us.


"Hebrews 8:13 â–º


By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

You really have a knack for making a fool of yourself, by showing your abject ignorance. LOL

As I've mentioned before, there is a difference between "obsolete" and "fairy tale." "Obsolete" means that the law of the Old Testament was fulfilled by your god Jesus. "Fairy tale" means the events in the Old Testament supposedly never happened. Is that what you're saying? Yet the events and characters of the Old Testament are referenced throughout the New Testament. You can't be a Bible believer, yet dismiss the Old Testament altogether. What about Jesus being a descendant of David? The original sin committed by Adam and Eve? You can't have it both ways.
 
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You are mistaken, I have never said the Bible, my Bible, is a fairy tale. You are obviously not religious and are not aware that we believe in the New Testament. The old testament is obsolete for us.


"Hebrews 8:13 â–º


By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

You really have a knack for making a fool of yourself, by showing your abject ignorance. LOL

Let me run it down for you. I agree, I am not religious. Just saved. I claim Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and savior. Do you? And if "your Bible" as a Catholic is supposed to only be about the New Testament, why did the Catholic church canonize the Old Testament as well? ForeverYoung436 expanded on this very well in his/her post made while I was writing this one.

And then you go to belittling me (and others) by resorting to name calling.

You know what's so comical about this section Book of Jeremiah ? You are relatively new to this section of the board. Monti has about 10-15 documents/links that he has cherry picked and nothing else. He spams the board with them over and over and over again. When he claims that all of Palestine converted to Christianity after the destruction of the Temple and is called on the clear fact that not all converted, he will admit it; sort of. But then in other threads he will go back to the same claim.

If you actually engage Tinmore, he will lead you down some really crooked path that I call his pretzel; yes it is that twisted. I did it only once.

Challenger at the core of his portion of the narrative, will give you the conspiracy theory that the world is controlled by Jews.

All will claim that Israel (and the Temple) never existed, nor should it now; even when they sometimes claim to want a two state solution.

And, as you have seen, when finally cornered, they will stoop to name calling. Hasbara is one of their favorites. Why is there no 'name' for the Pro-Pali propaganda? Because just like Hamas, and the others, they prefer to hide behind a mask.

It's really getting boring around here.

p.s. for a really good laugh (or cry) wait until you read some of the stuff Penelope posts.
 
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<snip> If I ever visited Israel (and I have never gone over) I would go with a 2 way ticket as a guest and not wear out my welcome! That land belongs to the Jews. Period.

You REALLY need to go visit. I've been twice and it really helps put this whole thing into perspective as to how much these pro pals lie about the Israelis.
I would like to see it one day. I just don't know when that will be. Maybe in my golden years.
 
<snip>and a Roman Catholic<snip>

Keep digging monti. If you are a Roman Catholic, why do you many times refer to the Bible as a fairy tale? Your lies and hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You are mistaken, I have never said the Bible, my Bible, is a fairy tale. You are obviously not religious and are not aware that we believe in the New Testament. The old testament is obsolete for us.


"Hebrews 8:13 â–º


By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

You really have a knack for making a fool of yourself, by showing your abject ignorance. LOL

As I've mentioned before, there is a difference between "obsolete" and "fairy tale." "Obsolete" means that the law of the Old Testament was fulfilled by your god Jesus. "Fairy tale" means the events in the Old Testament supposedly never happened. Is that what you're saying? Yet the events and characters of the Old Testament are referenced throughout the New Testament. You can't be a Bible believer, yet dismiss the Old Testament altogether. What about Jesus being a descendant of David? The original sin committed by Adam and Eve? You can't have it both ways.
I have spend at least 80% of my Bible believing life in the Old Testament with Psalms being a daily part of my life for the most part. I cannot imagine a bible without the Old Testament. I believe every word of the Old Testament. Anyone who says they do not, I am not so sure they are a Believer.
 
You are mistaken, I have never said the Bible, my Bible, is a fairy tale. You are obviously not religious and are not aware that we believe in the New Testament. The old testament is obsolete for us.


"Hebrews 8:13 â–º


By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

You really have a knack for making a fool of yourself, by showing your abject ignorance. LOL

Let me run it down for you. I agree, I am not religious. Just saved. I claim Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and savior. Do you? And if "your Bible" as a Catholic is supposed to only be about the New Testament, why did the Catholic church canonize the Old Testament as well? ForeverYoung436 expanded on this very well in his/her post made while I was writing this one.

And then you go to belittling me (and others) by resorting to name calling.

You know what's so comical about this section Book of Jeremiah ? You are relatively new to this section of the board. Monti has about 10-15 documents/links that he has cherry picked and nothing else. He spams the board with them over and over and over again. When he claims that all of Palestine converted to Christianity after the destruction of the Temple and is called on the clear fact that not all converted, he will admit it; sort of. But then in other threads he will go back to the same claim.

If you actually engage Tinmore, he will lead you down some really crooked path that I call his pretzel; yes it is that twisted. I did it only once.

Challenger at the core of his portion of the narrative, will give you the conspiracy theory that the world is controlled by Jews.

All will claim that Israel (and the Temple) never existed, nor should it now; even when they sometimes claim to want a two state solution.

And, as you have seen, when finally cornered, they will stoop to name calling. Hasbara is one of their favorites. Why is there no 'name' for the Pro-Pali propaganda? Because just like Hamas, and the others, they prefer to hide behind a mask.

It's really getting boring around here.

p.s. for a really good laugh (or cry) wait until you read some of the stuff Penelope posts.


What name did I call you Teddy? Ignorant is not a name, it is a fact, with respect to you. You obviously have not studied the Bible. While some prelates disagree, the Bible cannot be any clearer in stating the old testament is obsolete. After all, how does "an eye for an eye" jive with our Lord's "turn the other cheek". Think about it if you have really been "saved". I think you are simply a so-called "Christian Zionist" which is a contradiction in terms. You can either be a Christian or a Zionist, not both.

The documents I refer to are the source documents, the official facts. The Zionist propaganda you have been conditioned by has the goal of finding a way to refute the facts, because the facts demonstrate that the Zionists were simply invasive settler colonists supported by one of the world's colonial power of the time. No different than the settler colonists of Rhodesia, Algeria etc. You and your friends just can't handle the truth.

And, given that there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine before 1850, confirmed by census data to be about 8,000, and the fact that they were also relatively recent arrivals from Spain, after Muslims and Jews in Spain had to convert or be expelled in 1492, it is clear that Palestine was entirely inhabited by Christians before the Muslim conquest.

So, ignorance is clearly not an insult, but a fact with respect to your understanding of history.
 
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