rylah
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Arabs themselves helped Brits invade.Indeed, they were in on that scam.The Palestinians did not need welfare until a bunch of crooks came down from Europe and stole their stuff.
The Brits?
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Arabs themselves helped Brits invade.Indeed, they were in on that scam.The Palestinians did not need welfare until a bunch of crooks came down from Europe and stole their stuff.
The Brits?
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Arabs themselves helped Brits invade.Indeed, they were in on that scam.The Palestinians did not need welfare until a bunch of crooks came down from Europe and stole their stuff.
The Brits?
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RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ rylah, Ria_Longhorn, et al,
Let me say I do consider the proposal seriously, but not for the same reasons. I see this from an "insider attack" perspective and a matter of capitulation to the opposition's successful campaign to "intimidate a population and to compel a government" to consider such action as "The Bill."
❖ I'm surprised to see such a simplistic and trivializing response.
◈ I'm anything but trivualizingthis proposal. I am amased it got this far up the political chain and placement.● Have any alternatives achieved peace?
◈ NO, to my knowledge, no Israeli generated alternative has achieved this degree of Arab Palestinian success.● Did we find any acceptable alternatives after years of discussion here?
◈ I'm not sure that their isn't something out there. But even so, there is nothing with any political traction to be considered.● Let me ask You - do You think PM Netanyahu allowing 10 armored vehicles to be transferred from the EU to the PA last week a decision that results in peace, or stability?
◈ Whether it is the old Viet Nam War era V-100 Security Vehicle, or the BRDM2 Armored Vehicle, it is not a level of threat to be concerned about. While it could present a difficulty to the Border Polce, they can be neutralized relatively easy using 21st Century Weapons. So no, I'm not concerned. Additionally, I don't think the PA Security Forces have the training much beyond a police tactics support arm.● What steps would You suggest the upcoming Israeli generation take towards peace and stability?
◈ This is one of those domestic issues that I normally step away from; that it is something for the Israelis to decide. But in this case, I'll venture out here on the ice:● Again very strange, especially since we discussed specifically NOT such a scenario, but a legal framework and process that would not be instantaneous or blindly open to potential threats.
✦ If the Israelis are serious about this "annexation (the entirety of Judea and Samaria) then it has to be done in stages that do not compromise the integrity of the current State of Israel if it doesn't work.
✦ The highway system (and short rail) has to be vastly improved to connect Israel and all the major cities in the territories.All this has to be done BEFORE the area of sovereignty is reconsidered. The Arab Palestinians have an opportunity to demonstrate they know what is involved in building a nation and the
✦ Then the typical Economic and Social Research Council (ESRC) "ethics issues" list must be consulted, even if you disagree with them. At least understand them.
✦ Establish "free trading zones" (Duty Free) to promote the economy of the the territories.
✦ Establish "free light industrical zones" (Duty Free) to increase international product activitiy.
✦ Government underwritten middle class residential units.
✦ New Infrastructure Project to reduce cost and make improvements for the next century: Accomplished similarly to the old "New Deal" with a Works Progress Administration (but run and financed by the Israels) →
○ Water
○ Waste
○ Electric
○ Communications
○ Hostpitals
○ Education and Research
○ etc
◈ I am 100% in agreement with the slow and deliberate process. And before the issue of extended sovereignty is considered, that the standard of living through greater employment and education opportunities are raised.
But I must reemphasize this is a major "domestic issue." The Israels have to decide they want to take the risks and bare the expense. If my first response sounded a bit trivial, it's only because there is some much preparatory work that must be done that has yet been considered and put into effect.
Just My Thought
Most Respectfully,
R
The free trading and light industrial (Duty Free) zones, sound applicable to what flacaltenn once presented, taking in mind regional economic development in which the Arab community of Judea could take a key role.
Hope he will explain it himself if finds appropriate.
It's just essential that NEW THINKING on how the connectivity works in a West Bank for the Palestinians AND the Israelis. Any plan for resolution of occupation HAS to offer means of connecting Palestinians to local and REGIONAL markets.
Especially in the scenario of ANNEXATION of Judah/Samaria.. Because you end up (de facto) with ISOLATED Palestinian city-states without a plan for free flow of commerce..
So my proposal (all 6600 words of it) is BASED on a city-state (emirate) form of Palestinian govt with optional limited federal layers for diplomacy and currency and judicial review, etc.. In addition, it proposes a REGIONAL connectivity that restores that land of Israel to a HUB of commerce for "trade routes"... Done in conjunction with Egypt and Jordan and potentially Lebanon. Establishes a SECURE limited access highway thru these 3 countries at their borders that puts the Palestinians smack in the middle of very LUCRATIVE "trade zone" with connectivity to Arab neighbors, the rest of Palestinian community in the region and the rest of the world..
If Gaza ever sheds their Hamas captors, This would include them as well --- adding the possibility of a seaport to this "highway" of trade and commerce..
Here is a concept map for that connectivity...
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Arabs themselves helped Brits invade.Indeed, they were in on that scam.The Palestinians did not need welfare until a bunch of crooks came down from Europe and stole their stuff.
The Brits?
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They Brits divvied up the Ottoman territories, bestowing kingdoms on the Arab bandits (Faisal, Husseini, etc) who helped them in the war.
They set the stage for a conflict that has raged nearly a century between Arab states.
If there was no Israel, Arabs, Persians, Turks, and Kurds would be slaughtering each other still.
Ben Dror Yemini - The shameful war against Israel at our Universities
Simon Barrett interviews one of Israel’s most famous and formidable journalists Ben-Dror Yemi and I.D.F Reserve Major Amit Deri. In this programme they discuss the war being waged against Israel at our University and threat posed to academic freedom of expression.





Ben Dror Yemini - The shameful war against Israel at our Universities
Simon Barrett interviews one of Israel’s most famous and formidable journalists Ben-Dror Yemi and I.D.F Reserve Major Amit Deri. In this programme they discuss the war being waged against Israel at our University and threat posed to academic freedom of expression.
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Ben Dror Yemini - The shameful war against Israel at our Universities
Simon Barrett interviews one of Israel’s most famous and formidable journalists Ben-Dror Yemi and I.D.F Reserve Major Amit Deri. In this programme they discuss the war being waged against Israel at our University and threat posed to academic freedom of expression.
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Do you ever do anything different?
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Ben Dror Yemini - The shameful war against Israel at our Universities
Simon Barrett interviews one of Israel’s most famous and formidable journalists Ben-Dror Yemi and I.D.F Reserve Major Amit Deri. In this programme they discuss the war being waged against Israel at our University and threat posed to academic freedom of expression.
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Do you ever do anything different?
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Nothing of substance.
Noted.
Israel May Begin to Pay Citizens Not to Drive
Israel May Begin to Pay Citizens Not to Drive
This is a really interesting approach. I would definitely change my driving habits if I was offered an incentive such as this. (That said, I work from home, so.....)
Israel May Begin to Pay Citizens Not to Drive
This is a really interesting approach. I would definitely change my driving habits if I was offered an incentive such as this. (That said, I work from home, so.....)
Yes, and Tel-Aviv is THE place to do this pilot.
In spite of the astronomical taxes, there's a habit to switch vehicles every 4-5 years, which creates an an overall traffic and parking overload. Sure You know what I mean if been to Tel-Aviv.
After the Mobileye wide success in reducing accidents and lowering the prices of insurance,
and applying new laws and technology to vehicles above 2l. in Haifa, I think everyone notices the improvements.
There's a video I currently can't find, about another planned govt project for Tel - Aviv,
for adding a smart lane for public transportation at first, to eventually create an Internet-of-all-things for all transportation entering the city and regulation in real time.