White Nationalism/Christian Nationalism: Leftist Labels and Manipulation

[Pellinore]

Terms such as these have been around long before the modern system. "Nationalism" goes back centuries.

Nationalism, in a social science sense, is about more than just promoting your country's needs, it's about increasing your country's power at the expense of others. Applied to a group of people who are oppressed, it can be a powerful source to inspire their freedom, but in practice, when it is embraced by a group who is already in power, it becomes very dangerous, very quickly, inflicting more oppression onto the already oppressed. It is no coincidence that nationalism was one of the main causes of BOTH World Wars.

As for the more specific uses, remember that a nation (a social thing) is not the same thing as a country (a geographical thing), or a state or union (a political thing). A nation is a group of PEOPLE who all identify with a common characteristic, rather than a clump of land or a political entity. "White nationalism" therefore pushes for the white nation of people to have MORE power in society at the expense of non-whites, and "Christian nationalism" pushes for the same for self-described Christians.

And both white people and Christians are already the non-marginalized majorities in this county. "White nationalists" want white people to have more power, and non-whites to have less. "Christian nationalists" want the same for Christians, and the expense of the already-marginalized non-Christians.

The good news is that that means that some of you who are insisting you are "white nationalists" or "Christian nationalists" really might not be, because you didn't know what the term's meaning within social science really means. If you are, though, you are, and only you know for sure.

They weren't invented by modern leftists; they've been around longer than that. It is associated with the right-wing, though, because it pushes a hierarchy (nation on top, all others below) which is what the right wing is all about.

 

[Failzero]

Can anyone explain what is bad about a White Christian based nation?

It could be like 1937 America or worse ( Germany) ?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

It could be like 1937 America or worse ( Germany) ?

Germany as as far from Christian as you can get.

 

[Failzero]

Not in 1937

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Can anyone explain what is bad about a White Christian based nation?

How about the fact that not everyone is white or christian?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

How about the fact that not everyone is white or christian?

Their values and behavior can be.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Their values and behavior can be.

And what values and behaviors do you mean?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

And what values and behaviors do you mean?

How about the Ten Commandments since it’s in your profile pick as a joke. Tell me which of those are bad. Let’s throw in some basics for a society to function like men are men and women are women.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

How about the Ten Commandments since it’s in your profile pick as a joke. Tell me which of those are bad. Let’s throw in some basics for a society to function like men are men and women are women.

I don;t have a problem with the ten commandments. All decent people can and do live by them and you do not have to be a christian to do do so. They are really human values that have nothing to do with christianity. What I do have a problem with is when people who hod themeves up to be a christian and a believer in the commandments makes a mockery of those values and proves themselves to be unworthy of being part of human socirty regardless of faith.

And what is that about men and women. What decade are you living in and what does that have do with your inane and bigoted vision of a white christian america?

 

[Failzero]

How about the fact that not everyone is white or christian?

It’s impossible for everyone to be white ( They are not Finns or Laplanders )

 

[lennypartiv]

How about the fact that not everyone is white or christian?

America, love it or leave it.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I don;t have a problem with the ten commandments. All decent people can and do live by them and you do not have to be a christian to do do so. They are really human values that have nothing to do with christianity. What I do have a problem with is when people who hod themeves up to be a christian and a believer in the commandments makes a mockery of those values and proves themselves to be unworthy of being part of human socirty regardless of faith.

And what is that about men and women. What decade are you living in and what does that have do with your inane and bigoted vision of a white christian america?

Without that Christian base the human race as a whole doesn’t hold up the Ten Commandments on their own. At all. Human society without those base Christian beliefs can’t possibly live by them. There are no rules in that society. And as we’ve seen there’s no reason to follow them as they can easily be explained away as just something not everyone believes in. Like you’re doing here.

What decade did you decide men can be women and vice versa? When the fuck did that happen? There’s nothing bigoted about it. You’re born one or the other and you’ll die that way no matter how you live your life or what surgery you have done. Religion in this case has nothing to do with it. It’s fucking biology and that can’t be reversed by drugs or surgery. A Christian knows that. You struggle with that and try to make it some other argument.

 

[BrokeLoser]

You probably recognize the labels the progs wield as weapons against any opposition to their totalitarian vision of our future.
White nationalism/Christian nationalism are just 2 more recent ones on a long list of failed pejoratives they throw have been throwing at their ideological counterparts for decades.

Teabaggers, domestic terrorists, insurrectionists, anti-science, conspiracy theorists, racists, election deniers, war mongers (now replaced with the new & improved version- Putin lovers), misogynists & my personal favorite, ULTRA MAGA!!!, because it sounds like a some kind of superhero/transformers combo- all these terms have been used against us simply to shut us up.

The attempts to mock & marginalize us with hilarious labels pushed by propaganda outlets & meat puppet figure heads is as dangerous to the country as it is obvious to those who recognize their tactics.
They never actually bother attempting to refute our points because they have no real defense other than gaslighting as many sheeple as possible to create another false narrative of the superiority of their positions based on a fake consensus.
That's why they will come out in force to attack facts that put their carefully constructed alternate reality under the glaring spotlight of the truth.
It is just a way to shame & silence dissent that doesn't work on us but is fairly effective on the low info out there still getting their news from CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT or any other form of MSM Pravda.

Personally, I say why not just embrace the terms?
They can't handle it when another attack fails to trigger a response they can understand because strong emotions & delusions of grandeur are the core drivers for the lefty lapdogs. Turn it against them.
And if it is just too outrageous to embrace, just laugh at the source & mock their juvenile attempts for the pathetic acts of those who cannot make a valid argument based on substance.
The left has always used mockery against us. While we should always continue to use facts & logic, turn that mockery back on them full force & watch as they shrivel like the emotional wrecks most actually are.

I may get a custom shirt made with every one of their silly terms printed out just to wear it around when I go into a city.
After all, it's much easier to trigger those with a weak mind & overpowering feelers than it is to trigger someone that isn't confused by which bathroom to use.

So, in textbook Alinsky fashion, leftists were compelled to invent demeaning labels by which to recast pro-American sentiment as something negative, and even dangerous. And that is where the terms “White Nationalist” and “Christian Nationalist” were spawned. If they were authentic, they might well echo the dangers of Nazi genocide or the mass persecutions and slaughter that occurred during the Spanish Inquisition. Of course fears of such a prospect serve the intents and goals of leftists very well.


Given the marked increase in the usage of these phrases by leftist ideologues in recent months, it is important to look beyond their sanctimony, and focus on the real intentions of those who hurl them as accusations against their political enemies. They are obviously afraid that Americans are growing tired of the leftist onslaught, and how it has gravely damaged every facet of life in our Country. As Americans increasingly awaken to the root causes, a resurgence in love for the former greatness of our Nation, in its past role as a world leader and champion of freedom, could pose a mortal threat to the left.

Per Alinsky, any longings for a restoration of America as it was prior to the current descent into the moral and cultural sewer of leftist dominance must be completely castigated and mocked. Expressed desires for the Nation to change its current course cannot be regarded as “Patriotic” calls for Americans to rise to the aid of their Countrymen. Instead, they must be rebranded as ominous signs of bigotry and oppression.

White Nationalism/Christian Nationalism: Leftist Labels and Manipulation

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I take great pride in my white nationalism and Christian nationalism…..good real core Americans need to get back to believing that’s a good thing….the fucking pussies!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Without that Christian base the human race as a whole doesn’t hold up the Ten Commandments on their own. At all. Human society without those base Christian beliefs can’t possibly live by them. There are no rules in that society. And as we’ve seen there’s no reason to follow them as they can easily be explained away as just something not everyone believes in. Like you’re doing here.

What decade did you decide men can be women and vice versa? When the fuck did that happen? There’s nothing bigoted about it. You’re born one or the other and you’ll die that way no matter how you live your life or what surgery you have done. Religion in this case has nothing to do with it. It’s fucking biology and that can’t be reversed by drugs or surgery. A Christian knows that. You struggle with that and try to make it some other argument.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Without that Christian base the human race as a whole doesn’t hold up the Ten Commandments on their own. At all. Human society without those base Christian beliefs can’t possibly live by them. There are no rules in that society. And as we’ve seen there’s no reason to follow them as they can easily be explained away as just something not everyone believes in. Like you’re doing here.

Donald Trump is a Christian. So much for your argument.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Without that Christian base the human race as a whole doesn’t hold up the Ten Commandments on their own. At all. Human society without those base Christian beliefs can’t possibly live by them. There are no rules in that society. And as we’ve seen there’s no reason to follow them as they can easily be explained away as just something not everyone believes in. Like you’re doing here.

The murderous, genocidal Vladimire Putin is also a Christian

 

[g5000]

You probably recognize the labels the progs wield as weapons against any opposition to their totalitarian vision of our future.
White nationalism/Christian nationalism are just 2 more recent ones on a long list of failed pejoratives they throw have been throwing at their ideological counterparts for decades.

Um...retard?

White Nationalists and Christian Nationalists are what they call themselves!

Holy shit, you are incredibly ignorant.

“We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian nationalists." - Marjorie Taylor Greene, Turning Point USA.

And of course, MTG loooooves her some White Nationalists, like Trump's Nazy dinner guest Nick Fuentes.

Give us a big kiss, you adorable Nazi, you!

 

[g5000]

White Nationalists believe the US should be an entirely white nation. Thus the name they give themselves.

WNs want all minorities forced out or exterminated.

Christian Nationalists believe the US should be an entirely Christian nation, despite what the Constitution says.

There is a very thin line between the WNs and the CNs these days, as witnessed by people like MTG and Trump and other Republicans embracing open Nazis.

 

[g5000]

Christian Nationalist Marjorie Taylor Greene worships a serial adulterer. Of course, she's an adultress herself, so that fits.

She also supports a man who regularly bears false witness against others. Of course, MTG does the same, so that fits.

She also idolizes a man who robbed the elderly of their life savings at his fake university.

She also idolizes a man who robbed his investors and banks, and who cheats on his taxes.

This Christian Nationalism sure is a contradictory religion!

 

[Mac1958]

White Nationalists believe the US should be an entirely white nation. Thus the name they give themselves.

WNs want all minorities forced out or exterminated.

Christian Nationalists believe the US should be an entirely Christian nation, despite what the Constitution says.

There is a very thin line between the WNs and the CNs these days, as witnessed by people like MTG and Trump and other Republicans embracing open Nazis.

Funny they are alternately attacking the thread and defending White Christian Nationalism.

"How DARE you say this! And by the way, what's wrong with it?"