White House floated withdrawing US forces to please Putin after election

[Correll]

We should never have PUT forces in Eastern Europe.

And NATO has become the problem, not the solution.


If Europe wants to fuck with Russia, we don't need to be involved now.

We didn't put them there for Europe's sake.

We didn't put them there for any sensible reason.

Try reading Soviet/Cold War history. We put them there as a buffer for our own national security. Defending Europe was secondary.

I'm well familiar. The Cold War was over by the time we put forces in Eastern Europe.

Too funny. The Cold War never ended.

The Cold War was about Communism and the Global Balance of Power.


Both those issues are gone.

 

[Lewdog]

We should never have PUT forces in Eastern Europe.

And NATO has become the problem, not the solution.


If Europe wants to fuck with Russia, we don't need to be involved now.

Yep, we should have just let Germany take over Europe in WWI... or Europe and Russia in WWII. We were idiots for getting involved.

Cold War is over. Russia does not have the capability to roll over Western Europe.

If Western Europe is fucking with Russia now, they are the ones causing trouble, and we don't need to support that.

The Cold War will NEVER be over as long as the U.S. is a democracy and Russia is not.

 

[Correll]

We should never have PUT forces in Eastern Europe.

And NATO has become the problem, not the solution.


If Europe wants to fuck with Russia, we don't need to be involved now.

Yep, we should have just let Germany take over Europe in WWI... or Europe and Russia in WWII. We were idiots for getting involved.

Cold War is over. Russia does not have the capability to roll over Western Europe.

If Western Europe is fucking with Russia now, they are the ones causing trouble, and we don't need to support that.

The Cold War will NEVER be over as long as the U.S. is a democracy and Russia is not.

The Cold War was never about Russia's "lack of democracy".

 

[Lewdog]

We should never have PUT forces in Eastern Europe.

And NATO has become the problem, not the solution.


If Europe wants to fuck with Russia, we don't need to be involved now.

Yep, we should have just let Germany take over Europe in WWI... or Europe and Russia in WWII. We were idiots for getting involved.

Cold War is over. Russia does not have the capability to roll over Western Europe.

If Western Europe is fucking with Russia now, they are the ones causing trouble, and we don't need to support that.

The Cold War will NEVER be over as long as the U.S. is a democracy and Russia is not.

The Cold War was never about Russia's "lack of democracy".

Oh good lord. The absence of democracy is a part of the issue, but it is more the existence of democracy in the U.S. than it is a lack of democracy in Russia.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

We didn't put them there for Europe's sake.

We didn't put them there for any sensible reason.

Try reading Soviet/Cold War history. We put them there as a buffer for our own national security. Defending Europe was secondary.

I'm well familiar. The Cold War was over by the time we put forces in Eastern Europe.

Too funny. The Cold War never ended.

The Cold War was about Communism and the Global Balance of Power.


Both those issues are gone.

Nope. Changed hats.

 

[Correll]

We should never have PUT forces in Eastern Europe.

And NATO has become the problem, not the solution.


If Europe wants to fuck with Russia, we don't need to be involved now.

Yep, we should have just let Germany take over Europe in WWI... or Europe and Russia in WWII. We were idiots for getting involved.

Cold War is over. Russia does not have the capability to roll over Western Europe.

If Western Europe is fucking with Russia now, they are the ones causing trouble, and we don't need to support that.

The Cold War will NEVER be over as long as the U.S. is a democracy and Russia is not.

The Cold War was never about Russia's "lack of democracy".

Oh good lord. The absence of democracy is a part of the issue, butit is more the existence of democracy in the U.S. than it is a lack of democracy in Russia.

The reasons for the COld War are gone. Now we are just living in the past.

 

[Correll]

We didn't put them there for any sensible reason.

Try reading Soviet/Cold War history. We put them there as a buffer for our own national security. Defending Europe was secondary.

I'm well familiar. The Cold War was over by the time we put forces in Eastern Europe.

Too funny. The Cold War never ended.

The Cold War was about Communism and the Global Balance of Power.


Both those issues are gone.

Nope. Changed hats.

They are not a communist nation any more. They do not have an attractive ideology to support their dreams of world wide conquest.


They also do not have 10,000 tanks sitting in the middle of Germany.

 

[Lewdog]

Yep, we should have just let Germany take over Europe in WWI... or Europe and Russia in WWII. We were idiots for getting involved.

Cold War is over. Russia does not have the capability to roll over Western Europe.

If Western Europe is fucking with Russia now, they are the ones causing trouble, and we don't need to support that.

The Cold War will NEVER be over as long as the U.S. is a democracy and Russia is not.

The Cold War was never about Russia's "lack of democracy".

Oh good lord. The absence of democracy is a part of the issue, butit is more the existence of democracy in the U.S. than it is a lack of democracy in Russia.

The reasons for the COld War are gone. Now we are just living in the past.

Really? Is that why the Russians hacked the U.S. presidential election and other democratic elections around the world to undermine the ideology of democracy?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Try reading Soviet/Cold War history. We put them there as a buffer for our own national security. Defending Europe was secondary.

I'm well familiar. The Cold War was over by the time we put forces in Eastern Europe.

Too funny. The Cold War never ended.

The Cold War was about Communism and the Global Balance of Power.


Both those issues are gone.

Nope. Changed hats.

They are not a communist nation any more. They do not have an attractive ideology to support their dreams of world wide conquest.


They also do not have 10,000 tanks sitting in the middle of Germany.

Who is they?

 

[Correll]

Cold War is over. Russia does not have the capability to roll over Western Europe.

If Western Europe is fucking with Russia now, they are the ones causing trouble, and we don't need to support that.

The Cold War will NEVER be over as long as the U.S. is a democracy and Russia is not.

The Cold War was never about Russia's "lack of democracy".

Oh good lord. The absence of democracy is a part of the issue, butit is more the existence of democracy in the U.S. than it is a lack of democracy in Russia.

The reasons for the COld War are gone. Now we are just living in the past.

Really? Is that why the Russians hacked the U.S. presidential election and other democratic elections around the world to undermine the ideology of democracy?

IF they did it, maybe because we have been fucking with THEM, quite a lot.

 

[PredFan]

NO COLLUSION!

A member of Trump’s National Security Council staff had a radical notion: to pare back American troops in Europe as a way to curry favor with the Kremlin.

A senior National Security Council official proposed withdrawing some U.S. military forces from Eastern Europe as an overture to Vladimir Putin during the early days of the Trump presidency, according to two former administration officials.

While the proposal was ultimately not adopted, it is the first known case of senior aides to Donald Trump seeking to reposition U.S. military forces to please Putin—something that smelled, to a colleague, like a return on Russia’s election-time investment in President Trump. The White House did not immediately respond to The Daily Beast’s request for comment.​

Mucho Mas:
Trump Aide Floated Withdrawing U.S. Forces to Please Putin

Dailybeast...lol

Someone said that someone maybe said that another person said they said something.....

End of ignorant thread.

 

[Correll]

I'm well familiar. The Cold War was over by the time we put forces in Eastern Europe.

Too funny. The Cold War never ended.

The Cold War was about Communism and the Global Balance of Power.


Both those issues are gone.

Nope. Changed hats.

They are not a communist nation any more. They do not have an attractive ideology to support their dreams of world wide conquest.


They also do not have 10,000 tanks sitting in the middle of Germany.

Who is they?

Russia.

 

[Lewdog]

The Cold War will NEVER be over as long as the U.S. is a democracy and Russia is not.

The Cold War was never about Russia's "lack of democracy".

Oh good lord. The absence of democracy is a part of the issue, butit is more the existence of democracy in the U.S. than it is a lack of democracy in Russia.

The reasons for the COld War are gone. Now we are just living in the past.

Really? Is that why the Russians hacked the U.S. presidential election and other democratic elections around the world to undermine the ideology of democracy?

IF they did it, maybe because we have been fucking with THEM, quite a lot.

If? Jesus even the lone holdout of the Russian hacking, Congressman Chris Collins, admitted on live tv this morning they did it. Has Mexico been fucking with Russia?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Too funny. The Cold War never ended.

The Cold War was about Communism and the Global Balance of Power.


Both those issues are gone.

Nope. Changed hats.

They are not a communist nation any more. They do not have an attractive ideology to support their dreams of world wide conquest.


They also do not have 10,000 tanks sitting in the middle of Germany.

Who is they?

Russia.

So that means the Cold War is over?

 

[Correll]

The Cold War was never about Russia's "lack of democracy".

Oh good lord. The absence of democracy is a part of the issue, butit is more the existence of democracy in the U.S. than it is a lack of democracy in Russia.

The reasons for the COld War are gone. Now we are just living in the past.

Really? Is that why the Russians hacked the U.S. presidential election and other democratic elections around the world to undermine the ideology of democracy?

IF they did it, maybe because we have been fucking with THEM, quite a lot.

If? Jesus even the lone holdout of the Russian hacking, Congressman Chris Collins, admitted on live tv this morning they did it. Has Mexico been fucking with Russia?

Maybe I missed it, being bored with it and all, so what was the evidence again?

 

[Correll]

The Cold War was about Communism and the Global Balance of Power.


Both those issues are gone.

Nope. Changed hats.

They are not a communist nation any more. They do not have an attractive ideology to support their dreams of world wide conquest.


They also do not have 10,000 tanks sitting in the middle of Germany.

Who is they?

Russia.

So that means the Cold War is over?

Yes. Unless we work hard to keep it going.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Nope. Changed hats.

They are not a communist nation any more. They do not have an attractive ideology to support their dreams of world wide conquest.


They also do not have 10,000 tanks sitting in the middle of Germany.

Who is they?

Russia.

So that means the Cold War is over?

Yes. Unless we work hard to keep it going.

What about all those pesky missiles pointed in a westerly direction?

 

[Correll]

They are not a communist nation any more. They do not have an attractive ideology to support their dreams of world wide conquest.


They also do not have 10,000 tanks sitting in the middle of Germany.

Who is they?

Russia.

So that means the Cold War is over?

Yes. Unless we work hard to keep it going.

What about all those pesky missiles pointed in a westerly direction?

An useless waste of Russian money. I seriously question if the majority of them are being maintained.

A weapon without a purpose is a paperweight.

 

[Lewdog]

Oh good lord. The absence of democracy is a part of the issue, butit is more the existence of democracy in the U.S. than it is a lack of democracy in Russia.

The reasons for the COld War are gone. Now we are just living in the past.

Really? Is that why the Russians hacked the U.S. presidential election and other democratic elections around the world to undermine the ideology of democracy?

IF they did it, maybe because we have been fucking with THEM, quite a lot.

If? Jesus even the lone holdout of the Russian hacking, Congressman Chris Collins, admitted on live tv this morning they did it. Has Mexico been fucking with Russia?

Maybe I missed it, being bored with it and all, so what was the evidence again?

Lol... you are STILL going to argue because the government has publicly released ALL the information on the Russian hack, that it isn't true? Even with almost 100% of the people that have seen the evidence agrees it did?

Do you even realize that if the government released the evidence then Russia would know what part of their weaknesses to fix, and the U.S. and their allies wouldn't be able to catch Russia in the act in other countries?

 

[Correll]

The reasons for the COld War are gone. Now we are just living in the past.

Really? Is that why the Russians hacked the U.S. presidential election and other democratic elections around the world to undermine the ideology of democracy?

IF they did it, maybe because we have been fucking with THEM, quite a lot.

If? Jesus even the lone holdout of the Russian hacking, Congressman Chris Collins, admitted on live tv this morning they did it. Has Mexico been fucking with Russia?

Maybe I missed it, being bored with it and all, so what was the evidence again?

Lol... you are STILL going to argue because the government has publicly released ALL the information on the Russian hack, that it isn't true? Even with almost 100% of the people that have seen the evidence agrees it did?

Do you even realize that if the government released the evidence then Russia would know what part of their weaknesses to fix, and the U.S. and their allies wouldn't be able to catch Russia in the act in other countries?

Got it, no evidence to support your position.


Thus, my use of the word "if".