Which Religion Has More To Offer Men?

[progressive hunter]

The idea of this thread being... If an Agnostic man was looking to take up religion; and decided to shop the idea around, between the two main contenders at the moment; Christianity, and Islam...
Which would have more to offer men? Which would be the better choice, and why? Which one do you think would best suit not only his immediate interests, but also his long term planning for his family, and generational progeny?

You don't "take up" religion.

If you're not serious about seeking God, stay with Satan. Hes happy to have you.

Choose. Which one offers more mortal gain to men?

what do you mean by mortal gain???

 

[Vastator]

Another perspective from which one might view the choice would to be that of asking ones self “which” culture currently does more to empower, and benefit men; vs disenfranchising them? That might be a deciding factor for some if they had to choose, yet had no bias toward one, or the other at the outset...

I can not imagine the thought in your head that led you to ask such a question,,,

The OP is self explanatory... The option that gains the most benefits to the chooser would reasonably be the most often chosen. So... which of the two offers more to men? As it plays out in real world results? How have you come this far, and have forgotten the question we’re here to answer?

why the focus on men??

why not what benefits all humans???

from what you are looking for it would be better and easier to start your own religion, because none I know of have any of that outlook or goals

In all these pages... You still haven’t been able to choose one out of two? It’s not that hard of a question. Which of the two religions, as practiced, right now offer more power, promise, children, and opportunity to men and their heirs over generations? There’s no coming up with something new. It’s one of the two for this thought experiment.

because what you ask for doesnt exist in either one of the choices

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

 

[Vastator]

The idea of this thread being... If an Agnostic man was looking to take up religion; and decided to shop the idea around, between the two main contenders at the moment; Christianity, and Islam...
Which would have more to offer men? Which would be the better choice, and why? Which one do you think would best suit not only his immediate interests, but also his long term planning for his family, and generational progeny?

You don't "take up" religion.

If you're not serious about seeking God, stay with Satan. Hes happy to have you.

Choose. Which one offers more mortal gain to men?

what do you mean by mortal gain???

Something tangible, measurable, and lasting. Not an unproveable promise of something that happens when you’re dead like Toros 72 virgin nonsense. Remember this thread had the agnostic in mind. So demonstrable results, and realistic projections will likely factor into this persons decision.

 

[progressive hunter]

I can not imagine the thought in your head that led you to ask such a question,,,

The OP is self explanatory... The option that gains the most benefits to the chooser would reasonably be the most often chosen. So... which of the two offers more to men? As it plays out in real world results? How have you come this far, and have forgotten the question we’re here to answer?

why the focus on men??

why not what benefits all humans???

from what you are looking for it would be better and easier to start your own religion, because none I know of have any of that outlook or goals

In all these pages... You still haven’t been able to choose one out of two? It’s not that hard of a question. Which of the two religions, as practiced, right now offer more power, promise, children, and opportunity to men and their heirs over generations? There’s no coming up with something new. It’s one of the two for this thought experiment.

because what you ask for doesnt exist in either one of the choices

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

 

[progressive hunter]

The idea of this thread being... If an Agnostic man was looking to take up religion; and decided to shop the idea around, between the two main contenders at the moment; Christianity, and Islam...
Which would have more to offer men? Which would be the better choice, and why? Which one do you think would best suit not only his immediate interests, but also his long term planning for his family, and generational progeny?

You don't "take up" religion.

If you're not serious about seeking God, stay with Satan. Hes happy to have you.

Choose. Which one offers more mortal gain to men?

what do you mean by mortal gain???

Something tangible, measurable, and lasting. Not an unproveable promise of something that happens when you’re dead like Toros 72 virgin nonsense. Remember this thread had the agnostic in mind. So demonstrable results, and realistic projections will likely factor into this persons decision.

hemorrhoids fit that,,,

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

it's all fake crap anyway ...made up by humans--not ''god''.... ''allah'' ...etc...

That's irrelevant. Both exist. As such which religion offers more to men than the other. You can even elaborate between how its written, and how it's actually practiced, if that effected your choice.

It's an either, or proposition folks. You can even add your caveats, and "yeah-buts". Its not a tough question....
Or is it?

Well..both are fairy tales..so there's that. Both come from the same root..so there's that. If I had to believe in a fairy tale...well..sorry..it's just not in me..I know where you are trying to go..I'm just not going there..sorry. I think the world would be better off without both of them.

 

[Vastator]

The OP is self explanatory... The option that gains the most benefits to the chooser would reasonably be the most often chosen. So... which of the two offers more to men? As it plays out in real world results? How have you come this far, and have forgotten the question we’re here to answer?

why the focus on men??

why not what benefits all humans???

from what you are looking for it would be better and easier to start your own religion, because none I know of have any of that outlook or goals

In all these pages... You still haven’t been able to choose one out of two? It’s not that hard of a question. Which of the two religions, as practiced, right now offer more power, promise, children, and opportunity to men and their heirs over generations? There’s no coming up with something new. It’s one of the two for this thought experiment.

because what you ask for doesnt exist in either one of the choices

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has any bearing on this question whatsoever.

 

[Vastator]

it's all fake crap anyway ...made up by humans--not ''god''.... ''allah'' ...etc...

That's irrelevant. Both exist. As such which religion offers more to men than the other. You can even elaborate between how its written, and how it's actually practiced, if that effected your choice.

It's an either, or proposition folks. You can even add your caveats, and "yeah-buts". Its not a tough question....
Or is it?

Well..both are fairy tales..so there's that. Both come from the same root..so there's that. If I had to believe in a fairy tale...well..sorry..it's just not in me..I know where you are trying to go..I'm just not going there..sorry. I think the world would be better off without both of them.

I’m not trying “to go” anywhere. I’m asking posters to take readers there, and explain why. Of the two... which one, and why?

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Christianity gives more for men than Islam because of the correct balance and using each ones ability the best

All men are not more wise than many women but yes the majority are more wise but not all as Islam tries to make it

Islam goes against universal laws of all different type humans

 

[progressive hunter]

why the focus on men??

why not what benefits all humans???

from what you are looking for it would be better and easier to start your own religion, because none I know of have any of that outlook or goals

In all these pages... You still haven’t been able to choose one out of two? It’s not that hard of a question. Which of the two religions, as practiced, right now offer more power, promise, children, and opportunity to men and their heirs over generations? There’s no coming up with something new. It’s one of the two for this thought experiment.

because what you ask for doesnt exist in either one of the choices

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

 

[Vastator]

Christianity gives more for men than Islam because of the correct balance and using each ones ability the best

All men are not more wise than many women but yes the majority are more wise but not all as Islam tries to make it

Islam goes against universal laws of all different type humans

What universal laws? Specifically which ones that the alternative gets right; and what real world results could you offer to support the position?

 

[Vastator]

In all these pages... You still haven’t been able to choose one out of two? It’s not that hard of a question. Which of the two religions, as practiced, right now offer more power, promise, children, and opportunity to men and their heirs over generations? There’s no coming up with something new. It’s one of the two for this thought experiment.

because what you ask for doesnt exist in either one of the choices

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

I hope you’re sitting down for this... I have something to tell you... These two religions have been at odds for a while. A long, long while...

 

[progressive hunter]

Christianity gives more for men than Islam because of the correct balance and using each ones ability the best

All men are not more wise than many women but yes the majority are more wise but not all as Islam tries to make it

Islam goes against universal laws of all different type humans

What universal laws? Specifically which ones that the alternative gets right; and what real world results could you offer to support the position?

thought shall not **** thy neighbors goat is one,,,or cut of his head,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

because what you ask for doesnt exist in either one of the choices

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

I hope you’re sitting down for this... I have something to tell you... These two religions have been at odds for a while. A long, long while...

so you just decided to stir the pot like a ******* asshole,,,

 

[Vastator]

In all these pages... You still haven’t been able to choose one out of two? It’s not that hard of a question. Which of the two religions, as practiced, right now offer more power, promise, children, and opportunity to men and their heirs over generations? There’s no coming up with something new. It’s one of the two for this thought experiment.

because what you ask for doesnt exist in either one of the choices

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

More deflection. Now you’re just fabricating an excuse for you’re reluctance to make a decision.

 

[progressive hunter]

because what you ask for doesnt exist in either one of the choices

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

I hope you’re sitting down for this... I have something to tell you... These two religions have been at odds for a while. A long, long while...

OH I hope your sitting down for this,,,

I told you that in my first few comments

 

[Vastator]

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

I hope you’re sitting down for this... I have something to tell you... These two religions have been at odds for a while. A long, long while...

so you just decided to stir the pot like a ******* asshole,,,

Now you’re getting angry. The question stands. You can answer it. Or you can choose not to.

 

[progressive hunter]

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

I hope you’re sitting down for this... I have something to tell you... These two religions have been at odds for a while. A long, long while...

so you just decided to stir the pot like a ******* asshole,,,

Now you’re getting angry. The question stands. You can answer it. Or you can choose not to.

no anger,, just calling you out as the shit stirring prick you are,,,

 

[Vastator]

I didn’t ask for anything. Other than for you to choose which of the two offers more for men. And why you think so. This isn’t about me. This is about two choices. And which one of the two, you perceive offers more to men, and why.

more what for men???

if a man wants more he doesnt need religion to do it,, and religion isnt about getting more

so you thought experiment is just really dumb and most likely so you can slam religion and people that comment about it,,,

you never said if youre american???

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

I hope you’re sitting down for this... I have something to tell you... These two religions have been at odds for a while. A long, long while...

OH I hope your sitting down for this,,,

I told you that in my first few comments

You told me about feelings. I told you that was fine, but that I was looking for something more tangible. You stayed in the thread. I guess I was hoping you’d come up with something more. But your answer was your answer. Fair enough.

 

[Vastator]

Now you’re just deflecting because you cannot, or simply will not answer the question. Neither me nor nationality has no bearing on this question whatsoever.

if your a foreigner trying to pit two religions against each other in another country to start shit it matters a lot,,,

and so far that seems to be the case,,,

I hope you’re sitting down for this... I have something to tell you... These two religions have been at odds for a while. A long, long while...

so you just decided to stir the pot like a ******* asshole,,,

Now you’re getting angry. The question stands. You can answer it. Or you can choose not to.

no anger,, just calling you out as the shit stirring prick you are,,,

Yeah... no anger there at all...