Which is a Bigger Drain on the Economy?

Lies.

You can't pay taxes on money you didn't earn.

Most of these new illegals are collecting welfare
You can "Fake News" me all you'd like, slugger, but your assertion here is bullshit. And not backed up by facts.
You could fly a 747 through your "opinion". It's that big of a hole.

 
Most of them are here to work. Not collect welfare. And yes, they pay taxes. Quite a bit actually. Which is more than I can say (as a percentage wise) for the corporations who employ them.

I have zero idea why you members of Alt-Right Nation keep believing the lies from your media masters you're fed.

Most of the people who were in those caravans where brought here to rip us off.
 
You can "Fake News" me all you'd like, slugger, but your assertion here is bullshit. And not backed up by facts.
You could fly a 747 through your "opinion". It's that big of a hole.

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You're full of shit.

The left keeps gaslighting you and you're not smart enough to figure out they're full of crap.
And I bet you bought all of that COVID shit too.

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You're full of shit.

The left keeps gaslighting you and you're not smart enough to figure out they're full of crap.
And I bet you bought all of that COVID shit too.

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Cool Mr Spock. Now address your bullshit assertion. Not backed up by facts.
I get it. Alt-Right or death. :auiqs.jpg:
You people are on your way out. It can't come soon enough. :)
 
Not if you use rates as the measure. 80% of all Somalis in Minn are on welfare. Thats a common pattern. Illegals get massive free benefits not just welfare.
Again, not by a long shot. And undocumented immigrants are not eligible for most federal benefits. Those are reserved for citizens...who consume the most benefits. Undocumented immigrants come here to work. Period.

This is well documented. No need to constantly fluff lies.
 
Again, not by a long shot. And undocumented immigrants are not eligible for most federal benefits. Those are reserved for citizens...who consume the most benefits. Undocumented immigrants come here to work. Period.

This is well documented. No need to constantly fluff lies.
Democrats give illegals a ton of free benefits the states give to them CA gives them free healthcare. Minn is a total fraud giving over 10 billion in free benefits
PUBLIC BENEFITS OPEN TO ALL NONCITIZENS REGARDLESSOF STATUS:IN-STATE TUITION AND FINANCIAL AIDCalifornia allows students who qualify as California residents to pay in-state tuitionat the University of California, California State Universities, and California CommunityColleges. Immigrants who are California residents may qualify for in-state tuition ifthey have certain types of immigration status.If they are undocumented, they may still qualify for in-state tuition, as allowedunder California Assembly Bill 540. If you have any questions about in-state tuitionfor a specific institution, schools’ websites often offer information and resourcesspecifically for undocumented students. The campus admissions office may be ableA brief guide about which state and local benefits areavailable to immigrants in the Golden StateFEBRUARY 2024OVERVIEW: PUBLIC BENEFITS FORNONCITIZENS IN CALIFORNIAcontinued on next pagecontinued...TEACHING, INTERPRETING,& CHANGING LAW SINCE 1979COMMUNITYEXPLAINERILRC.ORG PG. 2to offer more insights, too.California also allows certain undocumented students to apply for and receivestatebased financial aid and institutional scholarships at California colleges anduniversities.Additionally, California Community College and California State University students canget FREE immigration legal services and fee support that covers the cost of filing DACAor naturalization applications. More info at the bottom of this guide.MEDI-CAL (CALIFORNIA’S MEDICAID PROGRAM)In California, emergency Medi-Cal coverage is available to all individuals regardless ofimmigration status. Undocumented pregnant and postpartum noncitizens are eligiblefor prenatal Medi-Cal coverage and pregnancy-related coverage for up to a year.Additionally, undocumented children, individuals age 50 or older, human traffickingsurvivors, U visa applicants, and U visa holders in California can qualify for fullscope Medi-Cal. California has recently expanded full-scope Medi-Cal coverage toundocumented adults ages 26 through 49.To find out more, visit this Community Alert. Full-scope Medi-Cal includes primary,behavioral health, long-term, dental and vision care to those who meet certaineligibility guidelines such as household income based on the federal poverty level.OTHER HEALTH PROGRAMSUndocumented Californians may also be eligible for In Home Support Services, EarlyBreast Cancer Detection and Breast and Cervical Cancer Treatment, Family PACTcomprehensive family planning services, and Improving Access Counseling andTreatment for Californians with Prostate Cancer (IMPACT).FOOD AND NUTRITION ASSISTANCEUndocumented immigrants are eligible for the Women with Infants and Childrenprogram (WIC) as well as free or reduced school meals. People who have childrenwith U.S. citizenship or lawful status may apply for CalFresh food assistance oncontinued on next pagecontinued...TEACHING, INTERPRETING,& CHANGING LAW SINCE 1979COMMUNITYEXPLAINERILRC.ORG PG. 3behalf of their children and do not need to provide any information about their ownimmigration status.PUBLIC BENEFITS LIMITED TO GREEN CARD HOLDERS AND OTHERQUALIFIED IMMIGRANTS:Some federal public benefits are only available to certain “qualified” immigrants.Qualified immigrants include certain green card holders and people with certain othertypes of immigration status. Many qualified immigrants have to go through a five-yearwaiting period before they become eligible for benefits. Refugees, asylees, certainAfghan and Ukrainian nationals, survivors of trafficking, domestic violence, andcertain types of crimes may be eligible for some federal benefits as well.PUBLIC BENEFITS AVAILABLE TO “QUALIFIED” IMMIGRANTS INCLUDE: Supplemental Security Income (SSI) Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or CalFresh in California Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), or California WorkOpportunities & Responsibility to Kids (CalWORKs) in California Social SecurityImmigrants who are “not qualified” may still be eligible for certain benefits becausethey are known to the U.S. immigration authorities and considered “PermanentlyResiding Under Color of Law” (PRUCOL) and therefore at lower risk of deportation.CALIFORNIA BENEFITS PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TO “NOT QUALIFIED” IMMIGRANTS INCLUDE: Cash Assistance for Program for Immigrants (CAPI): CAPI provides basic cashassistance for low-income elderly and/or disabled immigrants who are not yeteligible for SSI. California Food Assistance Program (CFAP): CFAP is a food assistance programcontinued...TEACHING, INTERPRETING,& CHANGING LAW SINCE 1979COMMUNITYEXPLAINERILRC.ORG PG. 4Discover more community explainers, toolkits,& alerts about immigration law.FOLLOW USAre you a California Community College (CCC) or a California State University(CSU) student? If so, you qualify for FRE
 
Assuming that there are roughly an equal number of illegal aliens and multi-generational welfare recipients in our country, which group constitutes a bigger drain on the U.S. economy? The former have technically violated our immigration laws, but are willing to work. The latter are not. Can we arrange a swap?

Trump should require that if Illegals want to stay, they need to register as Republicans
 
Democrats give illegals a ton of free benefits the states give to them CA gives them free healthcare. Minn is a total fraud giving over 10 billion in free benefits
PUBLIC BENEFITS OPEN TO ALL NONCITIZENS REGARDLESSOF STATUS:IN-STATE TUITION AND FINANCIAL AIDCalifornia allows students who qualify as California residents to pay in-state tuitionat the University of California, California State Universities, and California CommunityColleges. Immigrants who are California residents may qualify for in-state tuition ifthey have certain types of immigration status.If they are undocumented, they may still qualify for in-state tuition, as allowedunder California Assembly Bill 540. If you have any questions about in-state tuitionfor a specific institution, schools’ websites often offer information and resourcesspecifically for undocumented students. The campus admissions office may be ableA brief guide about which state and local benefits areavailable to immigrants in the Golden StateFEBRUARY 2024OVERVIEW: PUBLIC BENEFITS FORNONCITIZENS IN CALIFORNIAcontinued on next pagecontinued...TEACHING, INTERPRETING,& CHANGING LAW SINCE 1979COMMUNITYEXPLAINERILRC.ORG PG. 2to offer more insights, too.California also allows certain undocumented students to apply for and receivestatebased financial aid and institutional scholarships at California colleges anduniversities.Additionally, California Community College and California State University students canget FREE immigration legal services and fee support that covers the cost of filing DACAor naturalization applications. More info at the bottom of this guide.MEDI-CAL (CALIFORNIA’S MEDICAID PROGRAM)In California, emergency Medi-Cal coverage is available to all individuals regardless ofimmigration status. Undocumented pregnant and postpartum noncitizens are eligiblefor prenatal Medi-Cal coverage and pregnancy-related coverage for up to a year.Additionally, undocumented children, individuals age 50 or older, human traffickingsurvivors, U visa applicants, and U visa holders in California can qualify for fullscope Medi-Cal. California has recently expanded full-scope Medi-Cal coverage toundocumented adults ages 26 through 49.To find out more, visit this Community Alert. Full-scope Medi-Cal includes primary,behavioral health, long-term, dental and vision care to those who meet certaineligibility guidelines such as household income based on the federal poverty level.OTHER HEALTH PROGRAMSUndocumented Californians may also be eligible for In Home Support Services, EarlyBreast Cancer Detection and Breast and Cervical Cancer Treatment, Family PACTcomprehensive family planning services, and Improving Access Counseling andTreatment for Californians with Prostate Cancer (IMPACT).FOOD AND NUTRITION ASSISTANCEUndocumented immigrants are eligible for the Women with Infants and Childrenprogram (WIC) as well as free or reduced school meals. People who have childrenwith U.S. citizenship or lawful status may apply for CalFresh food assistance oncontinued on next pagecontinued...TEACHING, INTERPRETING,& CHANGING LAW SINCE 1979COMMUNITYEXPLAINERILRC.ORG PG. 3behalf of their children and do not need to provide any information about their ownimmigration status.PUBLIC BENEFITS LIMITED TO GREEN CARD HOLDERS AND OTHERQUALIFIED IMMIGRANTS:Some federal public benefits are only available to certain “qualified” immigrants.Qualified immigrants include certain green card holders and people with certain othertypes of immigration status. Many qualified immigrants have to go through a five-yearwaiting period before they become eligible for benefits. Refugees, asylees, certainAfghan and Ukrainian nationals, survivors of trafficking, domestic violence, andcertain types of crimes may be eligible for some federal benefits as well.PUBLIC BENEFITS AVAILABLE TO “QUALIFIED” IMMIGRANTS INCLUDE: Supplemental Security Income (SSI) Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or CalFresh in California Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), or California WorkOpportunities & Responsibility to Kids (CalWORKs) in California Social SecurityImmigrants who are “not qualified” may still be eligible for certain benefits becausethey are known to the U.S. immigration authorities and considered “PermanentlyResiding Under Color of Law” (PRUCOL) and therefore at lower risk of deportation.CALIFORNIA BENEFITS PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TO “NOT QUALIFIED” IMMIGRANTS INCLUDE: Cash Assistance for Program for Immigrants (CAPI): CAPI provides basic cashassistance for low-income elderly and/or disabled immigrants who are not yeteligible for SSI. California Food Assistance Program (CFAP): CFAP is a food assistance programcontinued...TEACHING, INTERPRETING,& CHANGING LAW SINCE 1979COMMUNITYEXPLAINERILRC.ORG PG. 4Discover more community explainers, toolkits,& alerts about immigration law.FOLLOW USAre you a California Community College (CCC) or a California State University(CSU) student? If so, you qualify for FRE
No. No they don't. Just stop.

What the hell was this mess? :)
 
What do you call free healthcare. Democrats are buying voters with out taxes. Loot at Minn. 10 billion in fraud
Yeah. That fraud investigation was going on for years before that little whelp came along and blew himself up. :auiqs.jpg:

Undocumented immigrants for the large part, come here to work. Period.
 
Yeah. That fraud investigation was going on for years before that little whelp came along and blew himself up. :auiqs.jpg:

Undocumented immigrants for the large part, come here to work. Period.
Excepet for the tens of thousands of criminals and benefit frauds. They come here to steal.
 
Excepet for the tens of thousands of criminals and benefit frauds. They come here to steal.
Why do you just keep pulling shit out of your ass? Your claims have already been debunked thoroughly. I get it. It's easier to believe your media masters..who lie to you. And you swallow the lies.

The lion share of undocumented immigrants, come here to work. And yes, they pay taxes. And don't get much
consideration in the way of "welfare" benefits.
 
Why do you just keep pulling shit out of your ass? Your claims have already been debunked thoroughly. I get it. It's easier to believe your media masters..who lie to you. And you swallow the lies.

The lion share of undocumented immigrants, come here to work. And yes, they pay taxes. And don't get much
consideration in the way of "welfare" benefits.
How much is a lions share? Looking fir a job isnt a reason to cross the border. They lower wages fir real citizens
Recent Department of Homeland Security (DHS) data indicates that over 670,000 illegal aliens, including many with serious criminal records like murders, sexual assaults, and gang ties, were removed in the year leading to early 2026. Enforcement efforts prioritize those charged with or convicted of crimes, alongside significant self-deportation numbers.

Key Details on Deportations and Criminal Aliens
  • Total Removals: DHS reported over 675,000 total removals of illegal aliens in a recent yearly recap, with millions more estimated to have self-deported.
  • Criminal Focus: Roughly 70% of those arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) are classified as criminal illegal aliens—individuals charged with or convicted of crimes in the U.S..
  • Types of Criminals Removed: Those removed include murderers, rapists, drug traffickers, kidnappers, and gang members.
  • Specific Operations: Operations like "Angel's Honor" and various regional surges have targeted specific criminal illegal aliens, including sex offenders and violent offenders.
  • Data Context: While official figures highlight high removal numbers, tracking the exact, granular breakdown of only violent criminals versus all removals is complex due to varying definitions and reporting methods.
 
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How much is a lions share? Looking fir a job isnt a reason to cross the border. They lower wages fir real citizens
Recent Department of Homeland Security (DHS) data indicates that over 670,000 illegal aliens, including many with serious criminal records like murders, sexual assaults, and gang ties, were removed in the year leading to early 2026. Enforcement efforts prioritize those charged with or convicted of crimes, alongside significant self-deportation numbers.

Key Details on Deportations and Criminal Aliens
  • Total Removals: DHS reported over 675,000 total removals of illegal aliens in a recent yearly recap, with millions more estimated to have self-deported.
  • Criminal Focus: Roughly 70% of those arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) are classified as criminal illegal aliens—individuals charged with or convicted of crimes in the U.S..
  • Types of Criminals Removed: Those removed include murderers, rapists, drug traffickers, kidnappers, and gang members.
  • Specific Operations: Operations like "Angel's Honor" and various regional surges have targeted specific criminal illegal aliens, including sex offenders and violent offenders.
  • Data Context: While official figures highlight high removal numbers, tracking the exact, granular breakdown of only violent criminals versus all removals is complex due to varying definitions and reporting methods.
Removals have nothing to do with why people come here in the first place. And criminals are always being removed. In fact, I believe Biden and Obama actually removed more criminals than Trump did. So, no misdirection here. The vast majority of undocumented immigrants...come here to work. They don't get a lot of the bennies that citizens are entitled to.


 
Assuming that there are roughly an equal number of illegal aliens and multi-generational welfare recipients in our country, which group constitutes a bigger drain on the U.S. economy? The former have technically violated our immigration laws, but are willing to work. The latter are not. Can we arrange a swap?
the size of the fed gov is the biggest drain on the economy,,

illegals and people that refuse to work the biggest drain on the public coffers,,
 
Removals have nothing to do with why people come here in the first place. And criminals are always being removed. In fact, I believe Biden and Obama actually removed more criminals than Trump did. So, no misdirection here. The vast majority of undocumented immigrants...come here to work. They don't get a lot of the bennies that citizens are entitled to.


Biden invited them in and removed few. Obama changed the definition of deport. Biden is the reason we have this problem. 3 million have left under Trump and wages went up rents went down crime went down drug deaths went down. Works for me the more we remove the better life gets.
Dont we have enough crime and poverty that we dont have to import more. That takes a special kind of stupid
 
Biden invited them in and removed few. Obama changed the definition of deport. Biden is the reason we have this problem. 3 million have left under Trump and wages went up rents went down crime went down drug deaths went down. Works for me the more we remove the better life gets.
Dont we have enough crime and poverty that we dont have to import more. That takes a special kind of stupid
Uh...Biden removed more than Trump did (in Skippy's first term anyway).
And again, most of those undocumented....come here to work.
 
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