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Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
Very interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
You are presuming the Creator is subject to the created rules of the Creator.Very interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
That would create a circular system indeed. Kabbalah is very complicated, and it seems to provide a finite number of layers notably 10 if I understand it correctly. I therefore see that it describes the source of suffering in general, a similar effort to what Buddhism and Hinduism try to do too. But then the question becomes, how does the system not get stuck?You are presuming the Creator is subject to the created rules of the Creator.Very interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
I do not subject my Creator to rules in any manner whatsoever.
The Creator has neither beginning nor end because that would indicate a defined existence.That would create a circular system indeed. Kabbalah is very complicated, and it seems to provide a finite number of layers notably 10 if I understand it correctly. I therefore see that it describes the source of suffering in general, a similar effort to what Buddhism and Hinduism try to do too. But then the question becomes, how does the system not get stuck?You are presuming the Creator is subject to the created rules of the Creator.Very interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
I do not subject my Creator to rules in any manner whatsoever.
Is there are only finite possible layers of reality dreams, then all aspects of creation would eventually freeze in various layers. This would then affect the godhead. I don't have much understanding, but it seems to suggest that the power of God can be transferred to created beings which seems false. Does kabbalah hold the possibility of such transfer?
Actually we can pinpoint the time a person falls asleep and we can also pinpoint the times a person was dreamingVery interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
Ok so going with the logic that only the creator is eternal and the creation is finite, why do all religions then claim that the soul is eternal and infinite?The Creator has neither beginning nor end because that would indicate a defined existence.That would create a circular system indeed. Kabbalah is very complicated, and it seems to provide a finite number of layers notably 10 if I understand it correctly. I therefore see that it describes the source of suffering in general, a similar effort to what Buddhism and Hinduism try to do too. But then the question becomes, how does the system not get stuck?You are presuming the Creator is subject to the created rules of the Creator.Very interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
I do not subject my Creator to rules in any manner whatsoever.
Is there are only finite possible layers of reality dreams, then all aspects of creation would eventually freeze in various layers. This would then affect the godhead. I don't have much understanding, but it seems to suggest that the power of God can be transferred to created beings which seems false. Does kabbalah hold the possibility of such transfer?
The creation is specifically not infinite.
What most people miss is that the Zohar is simply the Torah not corrupted by the Greek Septuagint or the Torah (enlightenment) translated into any language other then Hebrew.
I presume you don't know Hebrew; If you don't learn it, don't bother dwelling into it.
The shapes of the letters, the order of the alef-bet as well as the order in which they appear in the Torah aka the Blueprint of Creation, have seemingly insights.
Moshe Rabbbeinu lived until his 120th birthday, spoke with the Creator face to face and yet pleaded with the Creator to see the Creator's Creation, not even the Creator, because Moshe knew that a Creation could not perceive the Creator.
Kabbalah is simplicity itself (maybe); it just takes about 80 years to get to the point where you realize this.
Each aspect of the sefirot contains all the others in a seemingly infinite number of combinations.
I have no idea what your source is that Kabbalah concerns itself with suffering; not at all.
If you have a "traditional" Jewish source, let me know.
I wouldn't waste my life studying the source of suffering or why we suffer simply because suffering itself is a by-product of veering off your search for The Truth.
The Truth...sounds mysterious, doesn't it.
The Truth is what the Creator wants us to be involved in...to study and live the Guidebook he gave us...The Torah.
The bad guys and gals are in The Torah to guide us in how The Creator wants us to react to Bad people.
One thing for sure, don't be Bad.
Your grave mistake is thinking that the finite nature of the Created indicates a finite Creator.
For myself, any religion that describes a finite Creator is not worth my while.
It is not possible. To do that, you need to be an outsider, you can't be the person that is doing the falling asleep.Actually we can pinpoint the time a person falls asleep and we can also pinpoint the times a person was dreamingVery interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
Because the Truth is scary.Ok so going with the logic that only the creator is eternal and the creation is finite, why do all religions then claim that the soul is eternal and infinite?The Creator has neither beginning nor end because that would indicate a defined existence.That would create a circular system indeed. Kabbalah is very complicated, and it seems to provide a finite number of layers notably 10 if I understand it correctly. I therefore see that it describes the source of suffering in general, a similar effort to what Buddhism and Hinduism try to do too. But then the question becomes, how does the system not get stuck?You are presuming the Creator is subject to the created rules of the Creator.Very interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
I do not subject my Creator to rules in any manner whatsoever.
Is there are only finite possible layers of reality dreams, then all aspects of creation would eventually freeze in various layers. This would then affect the godhead. I don't have much understanding, but it seems to suggest that the power of God can be transferred to created beings which seems false. Does kabbalah hold the possibility of such transfer?
The creation is specifically not infinite.
What most people miss is that the Zohar is simply the Torah not corrupted by the Greek Septuagint or the Torah (enlightenment) translated into any language other then Hebrew.
I presume you don't know Hebrew; If you don't learn it, don't bother dwelling into it.
The shapes of the letters, the order of the alef-bet as well as the order in which they appear in the Torah aka the Blueprint of Creation, have seemingly insights.
Moshe Rabbbeinu lived until his 120th birthday, spoke with the Creator face to face and yet pleaded with the Creator to see the Creator's Creation, not even the Creator, because Moshe knew that a Creation could not perceive the Creator.
Kabbalah is simplicity itself (maybe); it just takes about 80 years to get to the point where you realize this.
Each aspect of the sefirot contains all the others in a seemingly infinite number of combinations.
I have no idea what your source is that Kabbalah concerns itself with suffering; not at all.
If you have a "traditional" Jewish source, let me know.
I wouldn't waste my life studying the source of suffering or why we suffer simply because suffering itself is a by-product of veering off your search for The Truth.
The Truth...sounds mysterious, doesn't it.
The Truth is what the Creator wants us to be involved in...to study and live the Guidebook he gave us...The Torah.
The bad guys and gals are in The Torah to guide us in how The Creator wants us to react to Bad people.
One thing for sure, don't be Bad.
Your grave mistake is thinking that the finite nature of the Created indicates a finite Creator.
For myself, any religion that describes a finite Creator is not worth my while.
No all you need is an EEG set up next to your bed.It is not possible. To do that, you need to be an outsider, you can't be the person that is doing the falling asleep.Actually we can pinpoint the time a person falls asleep and we can also pinpoint the times a person was dreamingVery interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
But you can't be reading your eeg outputs in the same time as falling asleep.No all you need is an EEG set up next to your bed.It is not possible. To do that, you need to be an outsider, you can't be the person that is doing the falling asleep.Actually we can pinpoint the time a person falls asleep and we can also pinpoint the times a person was dreamingVery interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
You don't have to because you can still determine when you fell asleep and when you were dreaming.But you can't be reading your eeg outputs in the same time as falling asleep.No all you need is an EEG set up next to your bed.It is not possible. To do that, you need to be an outsider, you can't be the person that is doing the falling asleep.Actually we can pinpoint the time a person falls asleep and we can also pinpoint the times a person was dreamingVery interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
I would say that that is not real sleeping then.You don't have to because you can still determine when you fell asleep and when you were dreaming.But you can't be reading your eeg outputs in the same time as falling asleep.No all you need is an EEG set up next to your bed.It is not possible. To do that, you need to be an outsider, you can't be the person that is doing the falling asleep.Actually we can pinpoint the time a person falls asleep and we can also pinpoint the times a person was dreamingVery interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
In fact with the lucid dreaming technique one can actually not only know when he is dreaming but can to an extent control the dream
I would say that that is not real sleeping then.You don't have to because you can still determine when you fell asleep and when you were dreaming.But you can't be reading your eeg outputs in the same time as falling asleep.No all you need is an EEG set up next to your bed.It is not possible. To do that, you need to be an outsider, you can't be the person that is doing the falling asleep.Actually we can pinpoint the time a person falls asleep and we can also pinpoint the times a person was dreamingVery interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
In fact with the lucid dreaming technique one can actually not only know when he is dreaming but can to an extent control the dream
Very interesting. I am not pulling people's legs here, so would be interesting to hear more of this.Juadaism.... that every reality is like a process of dreaming by a higher reality, which in turn itself too is a process of dreaming by an even higher reality, and so on. And does that thesis claim a finite number of layers of realities or infinite?
I know you weren't expecting that answer because you never studied kabbalah.
The general premise is, that a soul is eternal, because it is a part of the universe, unlike the physical body which is rather like some consequence.
So if eternity of the soul is only because it is part of the universe, then this eternity and the entire universe is only as eternal as a day before the Observer falls asleep, because nobody can put a time point when he himself has fallen asleep.
