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1. This morn, the Trivia question in my email was

Which of the following cities was named after a Native American chief?​

Dallas, TX Seattle,WA Omaha, NE or Milwaukee, WI

Easy one....but it brought to mind one of those huge lies they tell students in government school....that 'Noble Savage' lie aimed to suggest that white folks are destroyers of the planet.



2. The American Indian, the Native American....we have much to learn from this noble caretaker of
"the forest primeval. The murmuring pines and the hemlocks,
Bearded with moss, and in garments green, indistinct in the twilight,..."

Longfellow.



3. In 1854, the chief of the Puget Sound tribes of the Pacific Northwest......Chief Seattle, spoke these words, words that inspire the environmental movement today:

" Yonder sky that has wept tears of compassion upon my people for centuries untold, and which to us appears changeless and eternal, may change.... To us the ashes of our ancestors are sacred and their resting place is hallowed ground... Our dead never forget this beautiful world that gave them being. They still love its verdant valleys, its murmuring rivers, its magnificent mountains, sequestered vales and verdant lined lakes and bays,... Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove, has been hallowed..." Chief Seattle s Speech of 1854 - Version 1


...you must henceforth give the rivers the kindness you would give any brother. We know that the white man does not understand our ways. One portion of land is the same to him as the next, for he is a stranger who comes in the night and takes from the land whatever he needs.

The earth is not his brother, but his enemy, and when he has conquered it, he moves on. He leaves his father's graves behind, and he does not care. He kidnaps the earth from his children, and he does not care.
He treats his mother, the earth, and his brother, the sky, as things to be bought, plundered, sold like sheep or bright beads.
His appetite will devour the earth and leave behind only a desert."
Australia by Holden Friday night beers--revisited.


The Chief Seattle speech is famous in the halls of environmentalism.






4. And so begins the tale that the American Indians were the early environmentalists, natural conservationists who lived in harmony with nature.


5. Of course, there is hardly any basis for said belief, and, in fact, plenty of evidence to the contrary.
To begin with, the folks who advance the tales have no way to prove the tales via literature, as the Indians produced none.

What is to be learned in this thread is the nature of " the gullibility and mendacity of the greens and their allies in the media"
Chief Seattle's speech is the one document that is the mother of the propaganda....the 1854 speech of the chief of the Puget Sound tribes of the Pacific Northwest......Chief Seattle.




The problem is with the speech as an historical document: it is entirely bogus.
 
American Indians were simply place holders for a greater culture.

This happens, and has happened many times since the dawn of man.
 
1. This morn, the Trivia question in my email was

Which of the following cities was named after a Native American chief?​

Dallas, TX Seattle,WA Omaha, NE or Milwaukee, WI

Easy one....but it brought to mind one of those huge lies they tell students in government school....that 'Noble Savage' lie aimed to suggest that white folks are destroyers of the planet.



2. The American Indian, the Native American....we have much to learn from this noble caretaker of
"the forest primeval. The murmuring pines and the hemlocks,
Bearded with moss, and in garments green, indistinct in the twilight,..."

Longfellow.



3. In 1854, the chief of the Puget Sound tribes of the Pacific Northwest......Chief Seattle, spoke these words, words that inspire the environmental movement today:

" Yonder sky that has wept tears of compassion upon my people for centuries untold, and which to us appears changeless and eternal, may change.... To us the ashes of our ancestors are sacred and their resting place is hallowed ground... Our dead never forget this beautiful world that gave them being. They still love its verdant valleys, its murmuring rivers, its magnificent mountains, sequestered vales and verdant lined lakes and bays,... Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove, has been hallowed..." Chief Seattle s Speech of 1854 - Version 1


...you must henceforth give the rivers the kindness you would give any brother. We know that the white man does not understand our ways. One portion of land is the same to him as the next, for he is a stranger who comes in the night and takes from the land whatever he needs.

The earth is not his brother, but his enemy, and when he has conquered it, he moves on. He leaves his father's graves behind, and he does not care. He kidnaps the earth from his children, and he does not care.
He treats his mother, the earth, and his brother, the sky, as things to be bought, plundered, sold like sheep or bright beads.
His appetite will devour the earth and leave behind only a desert."
Australia by Holden Friday night beers--revisited.


The Chief Seattle speech is famous in the halls of environmentalism.






4. And so begins the tale that the American Indians were the early environmentalists, natural conservationists who lived in harmony with nature.


5. Of course, there is hardly any basis for said belief, and, in fact, plenty of evidence to the contrary.
To begin with, the folks who advance the tales have no way to prove the tales via literature, as the Indians produced none.

What is to be learned in this thread is the nature of " the gullibility and mendacity of the greens and their allies in the media"
Chief Seattle's speech is the one document that is the mother of the propaganda....the 1854 speech of the chief of the Puget Sound tribes of the Pacific Northwest......Chief Seattle.




The problem is with the speech as an historical document: it is entirely bogus.


220px-Chief_seattle.jpg



Native Americans are people just like everyone else. He owned slaves. He killed a lot of people in combat.

His tribe was being invaded by a neighboring tribe and he negotiated with the white man for help. And he got it.

When it came time to go to the reservation, white people wanted to put his tribe on the same reservation with his enemies.

 
220px-Chief_seattle.jpg



Native Americans are people just like everyone else. He owned slaves. He killed a lot of people in combat.

His tribe was being invaded by a neighboring tribe and he negotiated with the white man for help. And he got it.

When it came time to go to the reservation, white people wanted to put his tribe on the same reservation with his enemies.

Yet, the Native Americans didn't claim to know God or Jesus who said what the Europeans were doing is wrong.
 
220px-Chief_seattle.jpg



Native Americans are people just like everyone else. He owned slaves. He killed a lot of people in combat.

His tribe was being invaded by a neighboring tribe and he negotiated with the white man for help. And he got it.

When it came time to go to the reservation, white people wanted to put his tribe on the same reservation with his enemies.




You never miss an opportunity to miss the point.



. "Chief Seattle’s speech has been quoted and published by environmentalist groups around the world as part of their campaign to persuade us that native peoples know something about protecting the environment which we don’t."
"Wild in Woods: The Myth of the Noble Eco-Savage," by Robert Whelan, p. 43






" The version of the speech quoted above and so loved and reprinted by environmentalists was written in 1972 by Ted Perry for a film called 'Home,' being produced by the Southern Baptist Radio and Television Commission.

In the film (which I have not seen) the words were apparently read as if they were a letter from Seattle to President Pierce. This mis-attribution and many copies of the text of the Perry speech are available on the web (3).

Perry was writing an entirely fictional speech and did not intend for the words to be attributed to Seattle rather than to the Seattle character in the film, but the film's producers failed to mention Perry's authorship in the credits (7). Thus, the legend was born."
All things are connected



Like nearly everything that comes from the Left/Democrats/Progressives......


....it is fake.
 
The Marxist/environmentalist movement used the fake Chief Seattle rant to attack white folks, and capitalism, and- by extension- America.
You've been duped to accept doctrines designed to extend big government controls...the aim of every Leftist philosophy.


Perhaps the greatest blunder, one that is repeated to this day by the most ignorant, is noted in this section:

" Just prior to the section of the speech that is quoted in [Al] Gore's book, Seattle states, “I have seen a thousand rotting buffaloes on the prairie left by the white man who shot them from a passing train,” ...

The great chief could not have made such a statement.


a. To begin with, a single person could not have witnessed one individual shoot anywhere near one thousand buffalo from a passing train, given the speed of a train combined with the time that would have been needed to reload and fire a rifle used in 1854 (Not even Amtrak moves that slowly!).

b. There also were no buffalo at the Puget Sound where Seattle lived. Seattle lived over a thousand miles from the Great Plains, and there is no evidence that he ever traveled to the plains.

c. Finally, the transcontinental railroad was not completed until 1869, and the Euro-American bison slaughter did not begin until the 1870s. Seattle gave his speech in 1854, a full 15 years before the railroad was completed and nearly 20 years before whites began to slaughter the remaining buffalo in large numbers. He, therefore, could not possibly have commented on it in his speech.

d. Finally, Seattle died in 1866, making it quite difficult — to say the least! — for him to have witnessed an event that occurred a full decade after his death."http://www.humanecologyreview.org/pastissues/her71/71abruzzi.pdf




Yet....because of how valuable the propaganda is to the Left, it is repeated ad infinitum.
 
1. This morn, the Trivia question in my email was

Which of the following cities was named after a Native American chief?​

Dallas, TX Seattle,WA Omaha, NE or Milwaukee, WI

Easy one....but it brought to mind one of those huge lies they tell students in government school....that 'Noble Savage' lie aimed to suggest that white folks are destroyers of the planet.



2. The American Indian, the Native American....we have much to learn from this noble caretaker of
"the forest primeval. The murmuring pines and the hemlocks,
Bearded with moss, and in garments green, indistinct in the twilight,..."

Longfellow.



3. In 1854, the chief of the Puget Sound tribes of the Pacific Northwest......Chief Seattle, spoke these words, words that inspire the environmental movement today:

" Yonder sky that has wept tears of compassion upon my people for centuries untold, and which to us appears changeless and eternal, may change.... To us the ashes of our ancestors are sacred and their resting place is hallowed ground... Our dead never forget this beautiful world that gave them being. They still love its verdant valleys, its murmuring rivers, its magnificent mountains, sequestered vales and verdant lined lakes and bays,... Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove, has been hallowed..." Chief Seattle s Speech of 1854 - Version 1


...you must henceforth give the rivers the kindness you would give any brother. We know that the white man does not understand our ways. One portion of land is the same to him as the next, for he is a stranger who comes in the night and takes from the land whatever he needs.

The earth is not his brother, but his enemy, and when he has conquered it, he moves on. He leaves his father's graves behind, and he does not care. He kidnaps the earth from his children, and he does not care.
He treats his mother, the earth, and his brother, the sky, as things to be bought, plundered, sold like sheep or bright beads.
His appetite will devour the earth and leave behind only a desert."
Australia by Holden Friday night beers--revisited.


The Chief Seattle speech is famous in the halls of environmentalism.






4. And so begins the tale that the American Indians were the early environmentalists, natural conservationists who lived in harmony with nature.


5. Of course, there is hardly any basis for said belief, and, in fact, plenty of evidence to the contrary.
To begin with, the folks who advance the tales have no way to prove the tales via literature, as the Indians produced none.

What is to be learned in this thread is the nature of " the gullibility and mendacity of the greens and their allies in the media"
Chief Seattle's speech is the one document that is the mother of the propaganda....the 1854 speech of the chief of the Puget Sound tribes of the Pacific Northwest......Chief Seattle.




The problem is with the speech as an historical document: it is entirely bogus.
The problems Indians had was a very poor attention to their immigration policy by allowing dickheads like your ancestors in.
 
The problems Indians had was a very poor attention to their immigration policy by allowing dickheads like your ancestors in.

Is that how you were spoken to growing up?
So very sad.....

....but it gives a picture of now you became such a low-life.
 
Is that how you were spoken to growing up?
So very sad.....

....but it gives a picture of now you became such a low-life.

That could be the case but you are the gift that keeps giving. Every time you post It's based on hatred and ignorance.
To make a fool of you is like taking wheat from blind chooks.
 

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