Which car manufacturers do you think will go bust due to failing EV's

[Captain Caveman]

Is it your assertion that a slowing of increase from 50% to 20% is not a gain?

That is a gain, but, if we're on topic with the thread and I'm UK, EV sales have dived, in fact, the market share reduced to 22.9% from 25.6%. plug in hybrids are increasing.

So, wherever you got your figures from, they're either US related, or bolloxs as figures here show that Tesla et. al. have dived

 

[otto105]

That is a gain, but, if we're on topic with the thread and I'm UK, EV sales have dived, in fact, the market share reduced to 22.9% from 25.6%. plug in hybrids are increasing.

So, wherever you got your figures from, they're either US related, or bolloxs as figures here show that Tesla et. al. have dived

A Record 1.2 Million EVs Were Sold in the U.S. in 2023, According to Estimates from Kelley Blue Book - Cox Automotive Inc.

 

[MarathonMike]

gm and chrysler have already been bailed-out once

That's what I was going to say. None on that list will be allowed to fail.

 

[MarathonMike]

That is a gain, but, if we're on topic with the thread and I'm UK, EV sales have dived, in fact, the market share reduced to 22.9% from 25.6%. plug in hybrids are increasing.

So, wherever you got your figures from, they're either US related, or bolloxs as figures here show that Tesla et. al. have dived

The reality is EVs are the runts of the litter. They often sit on new car dealer lots for months.

 

[otto105]

The reality is EVs are the runts of the litter. They often sit on new car dealer lots for months.

In the US almost 2 million will be sold this year.

Worldwide near 17 million.

 

[MarathonMike]

In the US almost 2 million will be sold this year.

Worldwide near 17 million.

Oh they eventually sell, with heavy discounts, dealer incentives and government subsidies.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The reality is EVs are the runts of the litter. They often sit on new car dealer lots for months.

Yeah, I saw an article/video pointing out "days" stock per brand. Some had up to a years stock at the dealers. So just imagine, never make another EV for best part of a year and your dealer outlets won't run out!!

It took 100 years+ to get to where we are with ICE vehicles, they're expecting the same with EV's in a couple of decades. Folk are opting for the hybrid, but unless prices radically fall, they'll just fill a slightly larger niche market.

 

[Sparker]

EV is a trivial detail. Some and eventually all carmakers will shrink, merge, or fold because there will be fewer and then no cars sold.

Russia has enough oil to continue making cars for a long while.
Iran also has oil and its own car industry.
China buys Russia's oil, but it has many reasons why it may become unable to sustain its industries, so there's a question mark on Chinese carmakers.
Japan is stuck in line behind China for oil, but it has strong national spirit. It could wait for China to self-destruct and then take China's spot in industry. Double question mark on Japanese carmakers.
In the US, the Big 3 could become just the 3, or the 2.
European carmakers will be wiped out.
And various others will all depend on their nations' access and alliances with a shrinking number of oil exporters.

 

[Captain Caveman]

9 votes for Tesla, did these 9 voters have a crystal ball !!

 

[there4eyeM]

When people decide that getting around at all is better than nothing, then the standards of weight and power will become realistic. What the public has become addicted to was never sustainable or rational. Then, truly economical internal combustion engines and electric-powered vehicles will find their various niches.