Where Does the Apostle Paul mention "HELL"?

[Taz]

I bet it drives you crazy that ancient man believed the universe began and was subsequently proven correct 6,000 years later by science.

Everything has a beginning it would seem, no? And I never said that this universe didn't start with the BB, that's what we call the initial event. But every step of creation in the bible has been proven wrong.

So now you are arguing that ancient man did correctly state there was a beginning but they did not get the sequence right?

The bible starts out "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." So it starts out wrong. And the rest after that is wrong as well. That's what you base your BB nonsense on?

"The culmination of a physicist’s thirty-five-year journey from MIT to Jerusalem, Genesis and the Big Bang presents a compelling argument that the events of the billions of years that cosmologists say followed the Big Bang and those of the first six days described in Genesis are, in fact, one and the same—identical realities described in vastly different terms. In engaging, accessible language, Dr. Schroeder reconciles the observable facts of science with the very essence of Western religion: the biblical account of Creation.

Carefully reviewing and interpreting accepted scientific principles, analogous passages of Scripture, and biblical scholarship, Dr. Schroeder arrives at a conclusion so lucid that one wonders why it has taken this long in coming. The result for the reader—whether believer or skeptic, Jewish or Christian—is a totally fresh understanding of the key events in the life of the universe."

Genesis and the Big Bang Theory by Gerald Schroeder: 9780553354133 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A ground-breaking book that takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe. The culmination of a...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

Every culture has a creation story.

What's your point? Because my point was the creation account in the Bible is pretty damn accurate and apparently the guy who wrote this book agrees with me.

Moses didn't write the story. There were many authors and many redactions. The stories were borrowed from the civilizations around them. In fact, Judah and Israel had different stories which were cobbled together during the reign of King Omri.

I know Moses wasn't the author of the first 11 chapters of Genesis. The first 11 chapters of the Torah records the history that all nations have in common. These allegorical accounts of the history of the world had been passed down from generation to generation orally for thousands of years.

What does that have to do with my point though? Because my point was the creation account in the Bible is pretty damn accurate and apparently the guy who wrote the book I linked to (Gerald Schroeder) agrees with me.

Genesis and the Big Bang Theory by Gerald Schroeder: 9780553354133 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A ground-breaking book that takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe. The culmination of a...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

Christian Science is for clowns.

Good thing for me that's not what that is then.

Of course it is, it has Christian religion and science together, wtf else could it be?

Who said he was Christian?

the title of his book does.

 

[ding]

I bet it drives you crazy that ancient man believed the universe began and was subsequently proven correct 6,000 years later by science.

Everything has a beginning it would seem, no? And I never said that this universe didn't start with the BB, that's what we call the initial event. But every step of creation in the bible has been proven wrong.

So now you are arguing that ancient man did correctly state there was a beginning but they did not get the sequence right?

The bible starts out "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." So it starts out wrong. And the rest after that is wrong as well. That's what you base your BB nonsense on?

"The culmination of a physicist’s thirty-five-year journey from MIT to Jerusalem, Genesis and the Big Bang presents a compelling argument that the events of the billions of years that cosmologists say followed the Big Bang and those of the first six days described in Genesis are, in fact, one and the same—identical realities described in vastly different terms. In engaging, accessible language, Dr. Schroeder reconciles the observable facts of science with the very essence of Western religion: the biblical account of Creation.

Carefully reviewing and interpreting accepted scientific principles, analogous passages of Scripture, and biblical scholarship, Dr. Schroeder arrives at a conclusion so lucid that one wonders why it has taken this long in coming. The result for the reader—whether believer or skeptic, Jewish or Christian—is a totally fresh understanding of the key events in the life of the universe."

Genesis and the Big Bang Theory by Gerald Schroeder: 9780553354133 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A ground-breaking book that takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe. The culmination of a...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

Every culture has a creation story.

What's your point? Because my point was the creation account in the Bible is pretty damn accurate and apparently the guy who wrote this book agrees with me.

Moses didn't write the story. There were many authors and many redactions. The stories were borrowed from the civilizations around them. In fact, Judah and Israel had different stories which were cobbled together during the reign of King Omri.

I know Moses wasn't the author of the first 11 chapters of Genesis. The first 11 chapters of the Torah records the history that all nations have in common. These allegorical accounts of the history of the world had been passed down from generation to generation orally for thousands of years.

What does that have to do with my point though? Because my point was the creation account in the Bible is pretty damn accurate and apparently the guy who wrote the book I linked to (Gerald Schroeder) agrees with me.

Genesis and the Big Bang Theory by Gerald Schroeder: 9780553354133 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A ground-breaking book that takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe. The culmination of a...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

Christian Science is for clowns.

Good thing for me that's not what that is then.

Of course it is, it has Christian religion and science together, wtf else could it be?

Who said he was Christian?

the title of his book does.

ummmm.... no, it doesn't.

 

[Taz]

I bet it drives you crazy that ancient man believed the universe began and was subsequently proven correct 6,000 years later by science.

Everything has a beginning it would seem, no? And I never said that this universe didn't start with the BB, that's what we call the initial event. But every step of creation in the bible has been proven wrong.

So now you are arguing that ancient man did correctly state there was a beginning but they did not get the sequence right?

The bible starts out "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." So it starts out wrong. And the rest after that is wrong as well. That's what you base your BB nonsense on?

"The culmination of a physicist’s thirty-five-year journey from MIT to Jerusalem, Genesis and the Big Bang presents a compelling argument that the events of the billions of years that cosmologists say followed the Big Bang and those of the first six days described in Genesis are, in fact, one and the same—identical realities described in vastly different terms. In engaging, accessible language, Dr. Schroeder reconciles the observable facts of science with the very essence of Western religion: the biblical account of Creation.

Carefully reviewing and interpreting accepted scientific principles, analogous passages of Scripture, and biblical scholarship, Dr. Schroeder arrives at a conclusion so lucid that one wonders why it has taken this long in coming. The result for the reader—whether believer or skeptic, Jewish or Christian—is a totally fresh understanding of the key events in the life of the universe."

Genesis and the Big Bang Theory by Gerald Schroeder: 9780553354133 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A ground-breaking book that takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe. The culmination of a...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

Every culture has a creation story.

What's your point? Because my point was the creation account in the Bible is pretty damn accurate and apparently the guy who wrote this book agrees with me.

Moses didn't write the story. There were many authors and many redactions. The stories were borrowed from the civilizations around them. In fact, Judah and Israel had different stories which were cobbled together during the reign of King Omri.

I know Moses wasn't the author of the first 11 chapters of Genesis. The first 11 chapters of the Torah records the history that all nations have in common. These allegorical accounts of the history of the world had been passed down from generation to generation orally for thousands of years.

What does that have to do with my point though? Because my point was the creation account in the Bible is pretty damn accurate and apparently the guy who wrote the book I linked to (Gerald Schroeder) agrees with me.

Genesis and the Big Bang Theory by Gerald Schroeder: 9780553354133 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A ground-breaking book that takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe. The culmination of a...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

Christian Science is for clowns.

Good thing for me that's not what that is then.

Of course it is, it has Christian religion and science together, wtf else could it be?

Who said he was Christian?

the title of his book does.

ummmm.... no, it doesn't.

anyways, what's his conclusion?

 

[ding]

I bet it drives you crazy that ancient man believed the universe began and was subsequently proven correct 6,000 years later by science.

Everything has a beginning it would seem, no? And I never said that this universe didn't start with the BB, that's what we call the initial event. But every step of creation in the bible has been proven wrong.

So now you are arguing that ancient man did correctly state there was a beginning but they did not get the sequence right?

The bible starts out "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." So it starts out wrong. And the rest after that is wrong as well. That's what you base your BB nonsense on?

"The culmination of a physicist’s thirty-five-year journey from MIT to Jerusalem, Genesis and the Big Bang presents a compelling argument that the events of the billions of years that cosmologists say followed the Big Bang and those of the first six days described in Genesis are, in fact, one and the same—identical realities described in vastly different terms. In engaging, accessible language, Dr. Schroeder reconciles the observable facts of science with the very essence of Western religion: the biblical account of Creation.

Carefully reviewing and interpreting accepted scientific principles, analogous passages of Scripture, and biblical scholarship, Dr. Schroeder arrives at a conclusion so lucid that one wonders why it has taken this long in coming. The result for the reader—whether believer or skeptic, Jewish or Christian—is a totally fresh understanding of the key events in the life of the universe."

Genesis and the Big Bang Theory by Gerald Schroeder: 9780553354133 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A ground-breaking book that takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe. The culmination of a...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

Every culture has a creation story.

What's your point? Because my point was the creation account in the Bible is pretty damn accurate and apparently the guy who wrote this book agrees with me.

Moses didn't write the story. There were many authors and many redactions. The stories were borrowed from the civilizations around them. In fact, Judah and Israel had different stories which were cobbled together during the reign of King Omri.

I know Moses wasn't the author of the first 11 chapters of Genesis. The first 11 chapters of the Torah records the history that all nations have in common. These allegorical accounts of the history of the world had been passed down from generation to generation orally for thousands of years.

What does that have to do with my point though? Because my point was the creation account in the Bible is pretty damn accurate and apparently the guy who wrote the book I linked to (Gerald Schroeder) agrees with me.

Genesis and the Big Bang Theory by Gerald Schroeder: 9780553354133 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A ground-breaking book that takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe. The culmination of a...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

Christian Science is for clowns.

Good thing for me that's not what that is then.

Of course it is, it has Christian religion and science together, wtf else could it be?

Who said he was Christian?

the title of his book does.

ummmm.... no, it doesn't.

anyways, what's his conclusion?

That you can't read?