Zone1 Where does atheist morality come from?

Those who believe the Old Testament do
Have you read Psalms?

Two important features of the Psalms deserve special notice. First, the majority were composed originally precisely for liturgical worship. This is shown by the frequent indication of liturgical leaders interacting with the community (e.g., Ps 118:14). Secondly, they follow certain distinct patterns or literary forms. Thus, the hymn is a song of praise, in which a community is urged joyfully to sing out the praise of God. Various reasons are given for this praise (often introduced by “for” or “because”): the divine work of creation and sustenance (Ps 135:112; 136). Some of the hymns have received a more specific classification, based on content. The “Songs of Zion” are so called because they exalt Zion, the city in which God dwells among the people (Ps 47; 9699). Characteristic of the songs of praise is the joyful summons to get involved in the activity; Ps 104 is an exception to this, although it remains universal in its thrust.

Another type of Psalm is similar to the hymn: the thanksgiving Psalm. This too is a song of praise acknowledging the Lord as the rescuer of the psalmist from a desperate situation. Very often the psalmist will give a flashback, recounting the past distress, and the plea that was uttered (Ps 30; 116). The setting for such prayers seems to have been the offering of a todah (a “praise” sacrifice) with friends in the Temple.

There are more Psalms of lament than of any other type. They may be individual (e.g., Ps 37; 22) or communal (e.g., Ps 44). Although they usually begin with a cry for help, they develop in various ways. The description of the distress is couched in the broad imagery typical of the Bible (one is in Sheol, the Pit, or is afflicted by enemies or wild beasts, etc.)—in such a way that one cannot pinpoint the exact nature of the psalmist’s plight. However, Ps 51 (cf. also Ps 130) seems to refer clearly to deliverance from sin. Several laments end on a note of certainty that the Lord has heard the prayer (cf. Ps 7, but contrast Ps 88), and the Psalter has been characterized as a movement from lament to praise. If this is somewhat of an exaggeration, it serves at least to emphasize the frequent expressions of trust which characterize the lament. In some cases it would seem as if the theme of trust has been lifted out to form a literary type all its own; cf. Ps 23, 62, 91. Among the communal laments can be counted Ps 74 and 79. They complain to the Lord about some national disaster, and try to motivate God to intervene in favor of the suffering people.

Other Psalms are clearly classified on account of content, and they may be in themselves laments or Psalms of thanksgiving. Among the “royal” Psalms that deal directly with the currently reigning king, are Ps 20, 21, and 72. Many of the royal Psalms were given a messianic interpretation by Christians. In Jewish tradition they were preserved, even after kingship had disappeared, because they were read in the light of the Davidic covenant reported in 2 Sm 7. Certain Psalms are called wisdom Psalms because they seem to betray the influence of the concerns of the ages (cf. Ps 37, 49), but there is no general agreement as to the number of these prayers. Somewhat related to the wisdom Psalms are the “torah” Psalms, in which the torah (instruction or law) of the Lord is glorified (Ps 1; 19:814; 119). Ps 78, 105, 106 can be considered as “historical” Psalms. Although the majority of the Psalms have a liturgical setting, there are certain prayers that may be termed “liturgies,” so clearly does their structure reflect a liturgical incident (e.g., Ps 15, 24).

It is obvious that not all of the Psalms can be pigeon-holed into neat classifications, but even a brief sketch of these types help us to catch the structure and spirit of the Psalms we read. It has been rightly said that the Psalms are “a school of prayer.” They not only provide us with models to follow, but inspire us to voice our own deepest feelings and aspirations.
 

Where does atheist morality come from?​

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Give me an example. I've known people of all faiths and many denominations. I've never met anyone who lived in fear of God, and fearfully did good.
Genesis
The Great Flood
sodom and gomorrah
Lots Wife

Don’t go pissing off God
 
Genesis
The Great Flood
sodom and gomorrah
Lots Wife

Don’t go pissing off God
That's a silly argument. Intellectually that's a dead end. This is pretty simple. Don't believe in God. Problem solved. But that's not your problem is it? Your problem is that other people believe in God and that you cannot abide. Right?
 
That's a silly argument. Intellectually that's a dead end. This is pretty simple. Don't believe in God. Problem solved. But that's not your problem is it. Your problem is that other people believe in God and that you cannot abide. Right?
Oh, I get it
You selectively believe what is in the Bible
 
You selectively believe what is in the Bible
Because I don't accept the way you read it? I think it's you who reads the bible selectively. You have no concept of what these accounts are. If you did, you wouldn't read it so stupidly. The success of the Jewish people is undeniable. I would argue that their behaviors and practices as a people had something to do with that. So maybe you should be reading these texts looking for the secrets of their success rather than seeking to confirm your irrational fears.
 
Genesis
The Great Flood
sodom and gomorrah
Lots Wife

Don’t go pissing off God
1. Don't eat fruit before it's ripe
2. Watch your tongue
3. Be welcoming towards strangers
4. Once you decide on a course of action, don't look back

If this is all it takes to shake you up, keep your distance from Stephen King novels. I recommend skipping all authors whose names begin with G - R. Just to be safe. (I included G because of Grimm's Fairy Tales.)
 
And-____?
And....the cemetery being there is contingent on there being bodies needing to be buried. Everything physical is contingent on something else. If something isn't contingent on another thing, then it is beyond what is physical.
 
And....the cemetery being there is contingent on there being bodies needing to be buried. Everything physical is contingent on something else. If something isn't contingent on another thing, then it is beyond what is physical.
Where are you going with this?
 
What's your evidence that a creator does not exist?
ding, it is up to the one making an affirmative claim(s) to prove it. If I said I had a relationship with BigFoot and know where he lives but refuse to say because I don't allow anyone to test my faith in BigFoot, it wouldn't be up to the other person to prove he exists in your imagination only.
 
ding, it is up to the one making an affirmative claim(s) to prove it. If I said I had a relationship with BigFoot and know where he lives but refuse to say because I don't allow anyone to test my faith in BigFoot, it wouldn't be up to the other person to prove he exists in your imagination only.
You said:

I base what I think and do on evidence.
So what's your evidence for thinking God doesn't exist?
 
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