Where did it all go wrong

Dr Grump

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German writer sums up how Germany feels about the US. It's probably how most western countries feel.

"Peter Schneider, the novelist and journalist, expressed the attitude this way: “[The US] has created a model of a savior, and now we find by looking at you that you are not perfect at all—much less, you are actually corrupt, you are terrible businessmen, you have no ideals anymore.” With the Iraq War, Guantánamo, drones, the unmet expectations of the Obama Presidency, and now spying, “you actually have acted against your own promises, and so we feel very deceived.

NB: This comes from a piece written in The New Yorker which is behind a pay wall so cannot link. Also, for all the Trump haters out there (of which I am one), the piece was written in 2015 when Obama was in office.
 
Wasn't the US the country that killed 100,000s of Iraqi civilians? Didn't they have a civil war over slaves that cost 100,000s of lives?

I could go on...
 
German writer sums up how Germany feels about the US. It's probably how most western countries feel.

"Peter Schneider, the novelist and journalist, expressed the attitude this way: “[The US] has created a model of a savior, and now we find by looking at you that you are not perfect at all—much less, you are actually corrupt, you are terrible businessmen, you have no ideals anymore.” With the Iraq War, Guantánamo, drones, the unmet expectations of the Obama Presidency, and now spying, “you actually have acted against your own promises, and so we feel very deceived.

NB: This comes from a piece written in The New Yorker which is behind a pay wall so cannot link. Also, for all the Trump haters out there (of which I am one), the piece was written in 2015 when Obama was in office.


Everyone in Germany can kiss every lucky star they have for he USA. They exist only because the USA exists. I won’t be lectured about morality from people who are okay with letting their kids be raped by haji fucks, or sanctioned and invented way to wipe out a race of people. Fuck Germany. When I need a strudel, I’ll give a fuck.
 
German writer sums up how Germany feels about the US. It's probably how most western countries feel.

"Peter Schneider, the novelist and journalist, expressed the attitude this way: “[The US] has created a model of a savior, and now we find by looking at you that you are not perfect at all—much less, you are actually corrupt, you are terrible businessmen, you have no ideals anymore.” With the Iraq War, Guantánamo, drones, the unmet expectations of the Obama Presidency, and now spying, “you actually have acted against your own promises, and so we feel very deceived.

NB: This comes from a piece written in The New Yorker which is behind a pay wall so cannot link. Also, for all the Trump haters out there (of which I am one), the piece was written in 2015 when Obama was in office.
I deeply don't give a fuck what some do nothing nation says about us.

when the shit hits the fan, those bitches will be on their knees, mouths open, begging us to help same them


again.
 
German writer sums up how Germany feels about the US. It's probably how most western countries feel.

"Peter Schneider, the novelist and journalist, expressed the attitude this way: “[The US] has created a model of a savior, and now we find by looking at you that you are not perfect at all—much less, you are actually corrupt, you are terrible businessmen, you have no ideals anymore.” With the Iraq War, Guantánamo, drones, the unmet expectations of the Obama Presidency, and now spying, “you actually have acted against your own promises, and so we feel very deceived.

NB: This comes from a piece written in The New Yorker which is behind a pay wall so cannot link. Also, for all the Trump haters out there (of which I am one), the piece was written in 2015 when Obama was in office.
Spying is something every country does including Germany.......What a load from this pompous ass....
 
Wasn't the US the country that killed 100,000s of Iraqi civilians? Didn't they have a civil war over slaves that cost 100,000s of lives?

I could go on...
Why should the USA be any different than the other nations that have done it which pretty much includes all the nations on earth?
 
Wasn't the US the country that killed 100,000s of Iraqi civilians? Didn't they have a civil war over slaves that cost 100,000s of lives?

I could go on...

No. The US military did not kill 100,000s of Iraqi civilians. That many may have died, but they were not killed by the US military unless they were hanging out with insurgents.
 
Wasn't the US the country that killed 100,000s of Iraqi civilians? Didn't they have a civil war over slaves that cost 100,000s of lives?

I could go on...





Hundreds of thousands of iraqi citizens? No. Not even close. The Civil War though, that is factual. But, taken over the entire life of the country we have done far more good in the world than any other country, and it isn't even close. But, that doesn't address your OP. The author ignores the fact that it is the globalists, who are corrupt worldwide, who have tried to warp the US into their twisted view.

Progressives have been trying to destroy this country for well over a century now. They wish to drag us down into the gutter along with all of the other poor countries. Their goal is to have a huge mass of poor ruled by a very small elite. Thus any country that doesn't bow to the wishes of the EU scum has to be brought down. Same old playbook, same old progressive mindset.
 
With the exception of the Westwall, all the other replies are just jingoistic crap. Yeah, let's judge Germany on something that happened 70 years ago. I can easily harangue every other state in the world for unlawful killings. Whether it be 6,000 or 6 million. Dead is dead. I'm talking about the here and now.
 
Wasn't the US the country that killed 100,000s of Iraqi civilians? Didn't they have a civil war over slaves that cost 100,000s of lives?

I could go on...





Hundreds of thousands of iraqi citizens? No. Not even close. The Civil War though, that is factual. But, taken over the entire life of the country we have done far more good in the world than any other country, and it isn't even close. But, that doesn't address your OP. The author ignores the fact that it is the globalists, who are corrupt worldwide, who have tried to warp the US into their twisted view.

Progressives have been trying to destroy this country for well over a century now. They wish to drag us down into the gutter along with all of the other poor countries. Their goal is to have a huge mass of poor ruled by a very small elite. Thus any country that doesn't bow to the wishes of the EU scum has to be brought down. Same old playbook, same old progressive mindset.

Isn't the point we are no longer doing good?
 
Lol. Fuck Germany. Didn’t they start 2 world wars and committ genocide against the Jews?

Ditto here.

Hey Germany! Enjoy your horde of Sharia Law-practicing invaders, your "no-go" zones, your rapes, murders, and general degradation of your customs, language, and heritage.

You used to be such a proud people, now you're a nation of slack-jawed socialist pussies. You're just lucky that we didn't send a couple nukes your way, like we had to do to the Japanese. But maybe had we done that, you might have turned out to be as great a country as Japan is now. But you're not.
 
German writer sums up how Germany feels about the US. It's probably how most western countries feel.

"Peter Schneider, the novelist and journalist, expressed the attitude this way: “[The US] has created a model of a savior, and now we find by looking at you that you are not perfect at all—much less, you are actually corrupt, you are terrible businessmen, you have no ideals anymore.” With the Iraq War, Guantánamo, drones, the unmet expectations of the Obama Presidency, and now spying, “you actually have acted against your own promises, and so we feel very deceived.

NB: This comes from a piece written in The New Yorker which is behind a pay wall so cannot link. Also, for all the Trump haters out there (of which I am one), the piece was written in 2015 when Obama was in office.
It's been going wrong for a long time but when the GOP let the American Taliban and Nazis into to party, because that's the only way they could win, that was the end of rational American politics. Now it's winner take nothing (that matters).

The only blessing? The world is better off without America directing the play.
 

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