When you scream "You lie" to an African American...you're a racist.

[Maple]

the thing is with Wilson is that he was in a formal setting. he shouldn't of had an outburst like that. he was acting like one of those town hall meeting mobsters.

however i do think this is getting blown out of proportion. yes Wilson should have been told off for his outburst. but it should have just ended there. It's not that big of a deal. People in England shout all the time when they are in parliament sessions.

putting this incident aside. Obama is receiving a lot of disrespect from republicans. Even more than the disrespect Bush received from democrats. Obama was receiving venomous comments and disrespect the minute he was announced the democratic nominee for president. I think it's kinda of naive of republicans to recognize the racism that goes on with their members. I remember seeing those people at McCain rallies and their racist comments that went. I remember seeing one kid about 12 shouting when a picture of Obama was showed "is that the monkey from Tarzan".
the hostility towards Obama is something I never seen before. I think it would be naive to say race doesn't play at least a little part in the republican's anger towards Obama.

Really, racist comments during the campaign? would you care to share some links. I want to see the kid and the monkey thing, because if it was on the news I would have heard about it and seen it and we would have all been seeing it still today. So give me your links, I gotta see this one.

Did you happen to check on the above links with Reid calling Bush a loser and a liar and then refusing to apologize for that on national tv???

Let me clue you in on this. The office of President of the United States is not an AFFIRMATIVE ACTION position and the more you libs puke up that race card the more Americans will think very hard and very long before they pull the lever for another person of color. I love J.C Watts and Condolesa Rise, I think both would make great Presidents but If I have to worry about criticising any of their policies and holding them to the same standards I would a white person without being called a racist then I won't be voting for them.

You do your own race and your own party harm by expecting less of them than you would a white President and then to puke up the race issue you are reinforcing racism not eliminating it. You must be one of those white guilt voters who never listened to a minute of debate on the issues and paid absolutely ZERO attention to his policies.

 

[Maple]

the thing is with Wilson is that he was in a formal setting. he shouldn't of had an outburst like that. he was acting like one of those town hall meeting mobsters

mobsters???

They looked like just regular American citizens.

(Many in their senior years)

Who are voicing their objections to Obama's health plan.

You do know they were bused in and backed by insurance lobbyists right? You do know this. They were given scripts and told to not allow anyone to get their opinions out there.

That is the sad part, there were some people there with legitimate questions on both sides but these hacks came there to scream, then go home and watch fox.

Well Zona I have attended a town hall and a tea party right here in my own home town, I saw no buses no organization just regular folk, the usually silent majority, old folk, youguns, black and hispanic folk concerned about the direction this country is taking. You are in total denial and will remain there until you pull your head up out of those dark dark cavities that you have it stuck in.

 

[WillowTree]

the thing is with Wilson is that he was in a formal setting. he shouldn't of had an outburst like that. he was acting like one of those town hall meeting mobsters.

however i do think this is getting blown out of proportion. yes Wilson should have been told off for his outburst. but it should have just ended there. It's not that big of a deal. People in England shout all the time when they are in parliament sessions.

putting this incident aside. Obama is receiving a lot of disrespect from republicans. Even more than the disrespect Bush received from democrats. Obama was receiving venomous comments and disrespect the minute he was announced the democratic nominee for president. I think it's kinda of naive of republicans to recognize the racism that goes on with their members. I remember seeing those people at McCain rallies and their racist comments that went. I remember seeing one kid about 12 shouting when a picture of Obama was showed "is that the monkey from Tarzan".
the hostility towards Obama is something I never seen before. I think it would be naive to say race doesn't play at least a little part in the republican's anger towards Obama.

Really, racist comments during the campaign? would you care to share some links. I want to see the kid and the monkey thing, because if it was on the news I would have heard about it and seen it and we would have all been seeing it still today. So give me your links, I gotta see this one.

Did you happen to check on the above links with Reid calling Bush a loser and a liar and then refusing to apologize for that on national tv???

Let me clue you in on this. The office of President of the United States is not an AFFIRMATIVE ACTION position and the more you libs puke up that race card the more Americans will think very hard and very long before they pull the lever for another person of color. I love J.C Watts and Condolesa Rise, I think both would make great Presidents but If I have to worry about criticising any of their policies and holding them to the same standards I would a white person without being called a racist then I won't be voting for them.

You do your own race and your own party harm by expecting less of them than you would a white President and then to puke up the race issue you are reinforcing racism not eliminating it. You must be one of those white guilt voters who never listened to a minute of debate on the issues and paid absolutely ZERO attention to his policies.

Very well said. I don't feel comfortable having to tap dance around everybody's suggested vocabulary.. good for one but not the other,, it's becoming so not worth it.

 

[rdean]

The problem with Republicans is they just can't admit when they are wrong. Wilson said he yelled "Liar" at Obama because he said the bill Obama references covers illegals.

The bill says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS so even a "Geico Caveman" could read it.

How can Republicans defend this? Is this same group that still says Saddam was behind 9/11 even when Bush said he wasn't?

 

[WillowTree]

The problem with Republicans is they just can't admit when they are wrong. Wilson said he yelled "Liar" at Obama because he said the bill Obama references covers illegals.

The bill says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS so even a "Geico Caveman" could read it.

How can Republicans defend this? Is this same group that still says Saddam was behind 9/11 even when Bush said he wasn't?

we can and we did defend it by pointing out that the democrats have voted down every single measure written to enforce the above.. write it all day long,, without the tools you cannot enforce it..

 

[Maple]

The problem with Republicans is they just can't admit when they are wrong. Wilson said he yelled "Liar" at Obama because he said the bill Obama references covers illegals.

The bill says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS so even a "Geico Caveman" could read it.

How can Republicans defend this? Is this same group that still says Saddam was behind 9/11 even when Bush said he wasn't?

Really, well how are you gonna be able to tell who is a citizen and who is not. Afterall, the dems voted in lock step to kill the e-verify system that easliy identifies who is a citizen and who is not.

 

[JBeukema]

Y'all are just a bunch of typical white people...

 

[JBeukema]

Just callin' a sword a spade


wait...

 

[Maple]

the thing is with Wilson is that he was in a formal setting. he shouldn't of had an outburst like that. he was acting like one of those town hall meeting mobsters.

however i do think this is getting blown out of proportion. yes Wilson should have been told off for his outburst. but it should have just ended there. It's not that big of a deal. People in England shout all the time when they are in parliament sessions.

putting this incident aside. Obama is receiving a lot of disrespect from republicans. Even more than the disrespect Bush received from democrats. Obama was receiving venomous comments and disrespect the minute he was announced the democratic nominee for president. I think it's kinda of naive of republicans to recognize the racism that goes on with their members. I remember seeing those people at McCain rallies and their racist comments that went. I remember seeing one kid about 12 shouting when a picture of Obama was showed "is that the monkey from Tarzan".
the hostility towards Obama is something I never seen before. I think it would be naive to say race doesn't play at least a little part in the republican's anger towards Obama.

Helloooooooooooo, Yahooooooo, you still there??????? I am still very interested in the link that you have for the monkey and the kid during the campaign Please provide it. Or are you off to liberal la, la land where there iare no facts, no logic, no statistics, no numbers and absolutely no reality.

 

[WillowTree]

Y'all are just a bunch of typical white people...

we know.. and, we have no guilt either.

 

[Maple]

Y'all are just a bunch of typical white people...

we know.. and, we have no guilt either.

Right on Willow Tree, I have absolutely no guilt, shame on you and me. I judge a person by their character, not by the color of their skin. And when it omes to President of the United States, I judge by character and policy and not by the color of their skin.

 

[Dr.House]

I'll remember that.

Bookmarked.

Go for it, Butch...

I'm talking about within the settings of congress by members of congress...

If it makes you feel more like a man to call a very feminine woman Butch, then I'll guess I'll have to consider you're speaking with your pink pettycoat prancer voice.

Well, I sort of did before, but now it seems certain.

You really need to learn that I don't give a shit what you do asshat...

I'll sleep well tonight no matter what....

Bookmark that, child...

 

[alan1]

The problem with Republicans is they just can't admit when they are wrong. Wilson said he yelled "Liar" at Obama because he said the bill Obama references covers illegals.

The bill says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS so even a "Geico Caveman" could read it.

How can Republicans defend this? Is this same group that still says Saddam was behind 9/11 even when Bush said he wasn't?

The problem with you is that YOU LIE.
Hey, wait, didn't Mr Wilson shout "YOU LIE", not "liar"?
Did you actually watch and listen to the speech, or do you just spout democrat talking points from The Daily Kos or whatever your chosen biased media source is?

 

[Zoom-boing]

If that sentence is true--that Obama is a marxist where is the supporting evidence and what facts and evidence to the contrary have you looked at?

Have you not been paying attention at all?

Obama's past speaks for itself -- his radical mother, his racist preacher preaching BLT which is based in Marxism (bullshit Obama 'never heard him say'), his terrorist 'acquaintances', his 'carefully chosen friends and professors' during his college years (radicals and marxists), his appointments in this administration. Since you have a biased towards Obama you dismiss the evidence.

None of that is evidence. it's conjecture.

Priceless. <Zoom walks away shaking her head at the sheer stupidity of people>

 

[Zoom-boing]

Y'all are just a bunch of typical white people...

we know.. and, we have no guilt either.

WHITE GUILT IS DEAD
Friday, November 7th, 2008
By Tom Adkins

Look at my fellow conservatives! There they go,
glumly shuffling along, depressed by the election aftermath.
Not me.
I'm virtually euphoric. Don't get me wrong. I'm not thrilled with America's
flirtation with neo socialism. But there's a massive silver lining
in those magical clouds that lofted Barak Obama to the Presidency.
For today, without a shred of intellectually legitimate opposition, I can
loudly proclaim to America :
The Era of White Guilt is over.

This seemingly impossible event occurred because
the vast majority of white Americans didn't give a fluff about skin
color, and enthusiastically pulled the voting lever for a black man.

Not just any black man. A very liberal black man who spent his early career
race-hustling banks, praying in a racist church for 20 years, and actively
worked with America-hating domestic terrorists. Wow! Some resume!
Yet they made Barak Obama their leader.
Therefore, as of Nov 4th, 2008, white guilt is dead.

For over a century, the millstone of white guilt
hung around our necks, retribution for slave-owning predecessors.
In the 60s, American liberals began yanking that millstone while sticking a
fork in the eye of black Americans, exacerbating the racial divide to extort a socialist solution.
But if a black man can become President, exactly what significant barrier
is left? The election of Barack Obama absolutely destroys the entire
validation of liberal white guilt. The dragon is hereby slain.

So today, I'm feeling a little "uppity," if you will. From this day
forward, my tolerance level for having my skin color hustled is now
exactly ZERO. And it's time to clean house. No more Reverend Wright's
"God Damn America ," Al Sharpton's Church of Perpetual Victimization ,
or Jesse Jackson's rainbow racism.
Cornell West?
You're a fraud. Go home. All those "black studies" programs that taught
kids to hate whitey? You must now thank Whitey.
And I want that on the final.

Congressional Black Caucus? Irrelevant. Maxine Waters? Shut up.
ACORN? Outlawed. Black Panthers? Go home and pet your
kitty.
Black separatists?
Find another nation that offers better dreams. Go ahead..... I'm waiting.

Gangsta rappers? Start praising America .
Begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. And please.no more ebonics.
Speak English, and who knows where you might end up?
Oh, yeah.pull up your pants.
Your underwear is showing.
You look stupid.

To those Eurosnots who forged entire careers hating America ?
I'm still waiting for the first black French President.

And let me offer an equal opportunity whupping.
I've always despised lazy white people. Now, I can talk smack about lazy
black people.
You're poor because you quit school, did drugs, had three kids
with three different fathers, and refuse to work. So when you plop your
Colt 45-swilling, Oprah watchin' butt on the couch and complain
"Da Man is keepin' me down," allow me to inform you:
Da Man is now black. You have no excuses.

No more quotas No more handouts. No more stealing my money because
someone's great-great-great-great grandparents sufferedactual pain and
misery
at the hands of people I have no relation to, and personally revile.

It's time to toss that massive, obsolete race-hustle machine upon the heap
of the other stupid 60s ideas. Drag it over there, by wife swapping,
next to dope-smoking Plenty of room right between free love and cop-killing.
Careful.don't trip on streaking. There ya go,,, don't be gentle.
Just dump it. Wash your hands. It's filthy.

In fact, Obama's ascension created a gargantuan irony. How can you sell
class envy and American unfairness when you and your black wife went to
Ivy League schools, got high-paying jobs, became millionaires, bought a
mansion, and got elected President?
How unfair is that??? Now, Like a delicious O'Henry tale,
Obama's spread-the-wealth campaign rendered itself moot by it's own victory!
America is officially a meritocracy.
Obama's election has validated American conservatism!

So, listen carefully.Wham!!!

That's the sound of my foot kicking the door shut on the era of white
guilt.
The rites have been muttered, the carcass lowered, dirt shoveled,
and tombstone erected. White guilt is dead and buried.

However, despite my glee, there's apparently one small, rabid bastion of
American racism remaining. Black Americans voted 96% for Barack Obama.
Hmmm. ,,,,,,
In a color-blind world, shouldn't that be 70-30 or 60-40, maybe50-50?
Tonight, every black person should ask forgiveness for their
apparent racism and prejudice towards white people.

Maybe it's time to start spreading the guilt around.


http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20081109_White_guilt__Done__over__history.html

 

[JBeukema]

If that sentence is true--that Obama is a marxist where is the supporting evidence and what facts and evidence to the contrary have you looked at?

Have you not been paying attention at all?

Obama's past speaks for itself -- his radical mother, his racist preacher preaching BLT which is based in Marxism (bullshit Obama 'never heard him say'), his terrorist 'acquaintances', his 'carefully chosen friends and professors' during his college years (radicals and marxists), his appointments in this administration. Since you have a biased towards Obama you dismiss the evidence.

None of that is evidence. it's conjecture.

Braindead beauty, I hope ya look good
I hope you're a freak and ya have no shame
cause you'll never conquer the world usin' that brain

 

[Maple]

the thing is with Wilson is that he was in a formal setting. he shouldn't of had an outburst like that. he was acting like one of those town hall meeting mobsters.

however i do think this is getting blown out of proportion. yes Wilson should have been told off for his outburst. but it should have just ended there. It's not that big of a deal. People in England shout all the time when they are in parliament sessions.

putting this incident aside. Obama is receiving a lot of disrespect from republicans. Even more than the disrespect Bush received from democrats. Obama was receiving venomous comments and disrespect the minute he was announced the democratic nominee for president. I think it's kinda of naive of republicans to recognize the racism that goes on with their members. I remember seeing those people at McCain rallies and their racist comments that went. I remember seeing one kid about 12 shouting when a picture of Obama was showed "is that the monkey from Tarzan".
the hostility towards Obama is something I never seen before. I think it would be naive to say race doesn't play at least a little part in the republican's anger towards Obama.

Hellooooooooo out there????? I am still waiting on that link about the monkey and the kid during the campaign, could it be that really did not happen and that you actually have absolutely no facts or links to back up your claim. Ohhhhh no, you wouldn't do that now would you.

 

[JBeukema]

"is that the monkey from Tarzan" - Google Search

Evidently nobody else heard it

 

[rdean]

The problem with Republicans is they just can't admit when they are wrong. Wilson said he yelled "Liar" at Obama because he said the bill Obama references covers illegals.

The bill says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS so even a "Geico Caveman" could read it.

How can Republicans defend this? Is this same group that still says Saddam was behind 9/11 even when Bush said he wasn't?

The problem with you is that YOU LIE.
Hey, wait, didn't Mr Wilson shout "YOU LIE", not "liar"?
Did you actually watch and listen to the speech, or do you just spout democrat talking points from The Daily Kos or whatever your chosen biased media source is?

Oh yea. You are absolutely right. He said, "You lie" and not "liar". They mean such completely different things. Why didn't I catch that?

It's the different between being someone who plays "tennis" and a "tennis" player. See the difference?

This is an example of why less than 6% of Republicans are scientists and why they believe science is a religion.

 

[Zoom-boing]

The problem with Republicans is they just can't admit when they are wrong. Wilson said he yelled "Liar" at Obama because he said the bill Obama references covers illegals.

The bill says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS so even a "Geico Caveman" could read it.

How can Republicans defend this? Is this same group that still says Saddam was behind 9/11 even when Bush said he wasn't?

The problem with you is that YOU LIE.
Hey, wait, didn't Mr Wilson shout "YOU LIE", not "liar"?
Did you actually watch and listen to the speech, or do you just spout democrat talking points from The Daily Kos or whatever your chosen biased media source is?

Oh yea. You are absolutely right. He said, "You lie" and not "liar". They mean such completely different things. Why didn't I catch that?

It's the different between being someone who plays "tennis" and a "tennis" player. See the difference?

This is an example of why less than 6% of Republicans are scientists and why they believe science is a religion.

"you lie" implies that Obama was lying about the specifics that illegals would not be covered.

"liar" implies that Obama lies about everything.

"plays tennis" implies that you are someone who plays tennis casually.

"tennis player" implies that you are serious about it, possibly a pro.

"subtle" - fine or delicate in meaning or intent; difficult to perceive or understand.

- razz