It's fun, I'm sure you haven't heard about the free Ukraine territories before I told you.It's because you came here with that name and agenda like some kind of masochist. It's like wearing a meat suit to feed the bears.It's like a gang bang, and I'm receiving.
I'm not angry, I'm parroting you.It's clear by your posts that it is your age. - This is the stupidity you are presenting to me.
Well, you're right about one thing, and it's not my age.
BTW, why are you now attacking me on a personal level? I haven't done that to you. So why resort to it yourself?
You're so angry. I'm making a sincere effort to engage you in a meaningful conversation. Are you not interested in a meaningful conversation? Would you prefer a flamefest of insults? I can do that too, if that's your preference. Please tell me which one you want.
That's a shame then, because it's true, however we all have our own crosses to bear and I'll not deny you yours.
No assumptions are necessary, not at this point.
Yes it is.....When unions were in their hey day, not only did the collectives have numbers, they also had....now pay close attention....The support of the community at large. Union labor at its peak claimed roughly 35% of AmericansKeep spewing bullshit. Collective bargaining is coercion? What a ******* idiot.Sure it is....Collective.....Get it?Collective bargaining is not socialism.
BTW, the more accurate term is collective coercion.
Pretty much, you do not have to educate me on the subject. I told you I was once just like you but grew disenchanted with the whole thing because people are basically stupid and there is no way to make them wise up. These days I am a pragmatist with little patience for political dogma of any kind and one day you too will give up the deeply disappointing activity of expecting too much wisdom from the masses.
If you're trying to say socialism/anarchism/etc doesn't work, please, refer to my signature, and consider the paris commune, the Ukrainian free territories, the anarchist movements in spain..No more than anything else that works.
What did I just read? Anarchists have succeeded in the past. Labor unions? Oh boy, here we go.Yes it is.....When unions were in their hey day, not only did the collectives have numbers, they also had....now pay close attention....The support of the community at large. Union labor at its peak claimed roughly 35% of AmericansKeep spewing bullshit. Collective bargaining is coercion? What a ******* idiot.Sure it is....Collective.....Get it?Collective bargaining is not socialism.
BTW, the more accurate term is collective coercion.
The union bosses spoiled that. They wrecked themselves by demanding too much. Unions got greedy. And with the advent of international competition, unions failed to adjust. Unions exploited their members to make a point. So many businesses had to close their doors. Did it affect the supply of those goods and services? No. Once union bosses began costing jobs, they lost the support of the community. That was the beginning of the steady decline of organized labor.
Unions have become so unpopular that it is nearly impossible for unions to even get a meeting with an employer or the employees. No one want to deal with them.
Anarchists? What do they do...Go to the G * and G 20 Summits, turn over and set afire a few cars, throw flaming bags of dog shit around the streets? And have accomplished what?
I can tell you one goal. Anarchists succeeded in letting the rest of know they they are a bunch of lazy unkempt non working scum buckets that would live in their own piss and shit just to prove their are outside of the "establishment"...
Ya wanna know why the largest and most recent anarchist movement failed so miserably? Humor. We laughed at those idiot OWS jagoffs.
Hilarious, tell me, what was the free Ukraine territory surrounded by? Not like it was the bolsheviks or anything..If you're trying to say socialism/anarchism/etc doesn't work, please, refer to my signature, and consider the paris commune, the Ukrainian free territories, the anarchist movements in spain..No more than anything else that works.
That's like saying that the Amish can work in Syria just as they can in the US. No socialist/communist/anarchist movement in the world works unless surrounded by a healthy amount of capitalists willing to spend money on them and buy their goods. Take away capitalism and they will collapse just like any other fringe group.
Hilarious, tell me, what was the free Ukraine territory surrounded by? Not like it was the bolsheviks or anything..If you're trying to say socialism/anarchism/etc doesn't work, please, refer to my signature, and consider the paris commune, the Ukrainian free territories, the anarchist movements in spain..No more than anything else that works.
That's like saying that the Amish can work in Syria just as they can in the US. No socialist/communist/anarchist movement in the world works unless surrounded by a healthy amount of capitalists willing to spend money on them and buy their goods. Take away capitalism and they will collapse just like any other fringe group.
Not capitalists, and the paris commune, the other ones in my signature.. How are they receiving capitalist help? Tell me how, and when.Hilarious, tell me, what was the free Ukraine territory surrounded by? Not like it was the bolsheviks or anything..If you're trying to say socialism/anarchism/etc doesn't work, please, refer to my signature, and consider the paris commune, the Ukrainian free territories, the anarchist movements in spain..No more than anything else that works.Sounds like socialism
Tell me friend, are you a socialist?
That's like saying that the Amish can work in Syria just as they can in the US. No socialist/communist/anarchist movement in the world works unless surrounded by a healthy amount of capitalists willing to spend money on them and buy their goods. Take away capitalism and they will collapse just like any other fringe group.
Funny, you dropped the other two? But what are they surrounded by? LOL, Russians.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. I'm sorry, but you've established all I needed to know. You've ignored the working examples I've given, keep calling countries that were never socialist, and saying they went into socialism, then stalinism, as if that means anything when they weren't even ******* socialist. Modified form? Bullshit, quit ignoring facts.
