When (if ever) will R-W'ers admit to Trump's approval ratings?

[rightwinger]

So, you would have the president elected by a few counties in Cal and NY?

NO......popular vote majority would be nice, don't you think?
Here's a question for ALL you right wing nitwits"

How come you morons, believe in MAJORITY rule in congress, but not in presidential elections?

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Been explained to you and your fellow dems many times. The electoral college gives a proportional voice to the people of every state. National PV would give the big population centers complete control over presidential elections. We understand why you want that, because the big city ghettos are full of democrats, we understand your motives.

But until you get a constitutional amendment through congress and ratified by 38 states, we will elect presidents via the EC.

So rant on and on, nothing is going to change. YOU LOST.

What I find funny is that if Hilly had won you would be praising the EC and celebrating how great it is. Its called hypocrisy and you dems are very good at it.

Population centers do not get control. Cities do not vote, people vote

A person voting in New York City should have the same clout as a person voting in Buttfuck Wyoming

 

[nat4900]

If your premise was valid, yes. But its not. Nothing in the EO is unconstitutional. That ruling will be overturned.

Great to hear that from a constitutional scholar.....who knows more than a federal judge appointed by GWB.....Interesting.

 

[Markle]

Why bother? Think it's gonna slow him down?

Probably not......Trump is not too sane anyway and his delusions would not allow reality to sink in....
However, right wingers in congress are fully aware of their reelection chances.

Now that's where it can matter.

The most important polls to me are the internals being run by vulnerable Republican congresspeople.
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I take it that you have no clue as to how many vulnerable Democrats, in states won in previous years by petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama and won by President Donald Trump this election.

By EMILY SCHULTHEIS CBS NEWS November 21, 2016, 6:00 AM
Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

[...]

Democrats in Republican territory: West Virginia, North Dakota, Montana, Missouri, Indiana
Right off the bat, there are five states where Democrats have incumbent Senators who face very steep odds of re-election: the traditionally deeply Republican states in which Mr. Trump won by double digits this November.

Take West Virginia, for example: Democrat Joe Manchin is running in 2018 for a second full term in office. In 2012, he won his race with just over 60 percent of the vote -- but just four years later, his state voted for Mr. Trump by a whopping 42-point margin.

North Dakota, where incumbent Democrat Heidi Heitkamp is up again is almost equally as deep red: the state voted for Trump by a 36-point margin earlier this month. And while Trump won by slightly smaller margins in the other three states in this category, it still wasn’t pretty for Democrats this fall: Trump won Montana, Indiana and Missouri by 21 points, 19 points and 19 points, respectively.

These states were to Democrats what Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were supposed to be to Republicans in 2016: states where they had unexpected victories back in 2012, in a presidential year, but must now contend with the fact that their incumbents there face tough odds. Heitkamp’s victory in North Dakota, for example, was a surprise -- as was Sen. Jon Tester’s in Montana.

And two of the Democrats who won in GOP-leaning states in 2012 benefited greatly from the missteps of their opponents: Sen. Claire McCaskill was seen as highly vulnerable in Missouri until her GOP opponent, Todd Akin, made a comment about “legitimate rape” that had echoes far beyond the state. Similarly, Indiana’s Joe Donnelly found an opening when his opponent, Richard Mourdock, said during a debate that a pregnancy resulting from rape is “something that God intended to happen.”

[...]

Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

 

[nat4900]

Not at all.

GBW also had a majority in congress.....

I am talking about how GWB was selected by Scalia, giving him the EC but NOT the popular vote.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Not at all.

GBW also had a majority in congress.....

I am talking about how GWB was selected by Scalia, giving him the EC but NOT the popular vote.

Still whining about 2000....wow.

Regardless, you asked the question and said...interesting.....

I simply pointed out that it really isn't all the interesting if you look at how the people kept the GOP in power with Bush, and took the house away from a popular president like Obama.....

Kinda says....you don't look at everything...only the things that act like pain pills for you intense butthurt.

 

[Mac1958]

Why bother? Think it's gonna slow him down?

Probably not......Trump is not too sane anyway and his delusions would not allow reality to sink in....
However, right wingers in congress are fully aware of their reelection chances.

Now that's where it can matter.

The most important polls to me are the internals being run by vulnerable Republican congresspeople.
.

I take it that you have no clue as to how many vulnerable Democrats, in states won in previous years by petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama and won by President Donald Trump this election.

By EMILY SCHULTHEIS CBS NEWS November 21, 2016, 6:00 AM
Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

[...]

Democrats in Republican territory: West Virginia, North Dakota, Montana, Missouri, Indiana
Right off the bat, there are five states where Democrats have incumbent Senators who face very steep odds of re-election: the traditionally deeply Republican states in which Mr. Trump won by double digits this November.

Take West Virginia, for example: Democrat Joe Manchin is running in 2018 for a second full term in office. In 2012, he won his race with just over 60 percent of the vote -- but just four years later, his state voted for Mr. Trump by a whopping 42-point margin.

North Dakota, where incumbent Democrat Heidi Heitkamp is up again is almost equally as deep red: the state voted for Trump by a 36-point margin earlier this month. And while Trump won by slightly smaller margins in the other three states in this category, it still wasn’t pretty for Democrats this fall: Trump won Montana, Indiana and Missouri by 21 points, 19 points and 19 points, respectively.

These states were to Democrats what Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were supposed to be to Republicans in 2016: states where they had unexpected victories back in 2012, in a presidential year, but must now contend with the fact that their incumbents there face tough odds. Heitkamp’s victory in North Dakota, for example, was a surprise -- as was Sen. Jon Tester’s in Montana.

And two of the Democrats who won in GOP-leaning states in 2012 benefited greatly from the missteps of their opponents: Sen. Claire McCaskill was seen as highly vulnerable in Missouri until her GOP opponent, Todd Akin, made a comment about “legitimate rape” that had echoes far beyond the state. Similarly, Indiana’s Joe Donnelly found an opening when his opponent, Richard Mourdock, said during a debate that a pregnancy resulting from rape is “something that God intended to happen.”

[...]

Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

That's all correct, but it has nothing to do with my point.

If a Republican congressperson's internal polling indicates to them that they can't vote too far to the Right, they'll be less likely to do so.

An example would be Collins & Murkowski saying they'll vote against DeVos. That might happen here and there.

That's the best the Democrats can hope for right now.
.

 

[rightwinger]

Why bother? Think it's gonna slow him down?

Probably not......Trump is not too sane anyway and his delusions would not allow reality to sink in....
However, right wingers in congress are fully aware of their reelection chances.

Now that's where it can matter.

The most important polls to me are the internals being run by vulnerable Republican congresspeople.
.

I take it that you have no clue as to how many vulnerable Democrats, in states won in previous years by petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama and won by President Donald Trump this election.

By EMILY SCHULTHEIS CBS NEWS November 21, 2016, 6:00 AM
Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

[...]

Democrats in Republican territory: West Virginia, North Dakota, Montana, Missouri, Indiana
Right off the bat, there are five states where Democrats have incumbent Senators who face very steep odds of re-election: the traditionally deeply Republican states in which Mr. Trump won by double digits this November.

Take West Virginia, for example: Democrat Joe Manchin is running in 2018 for a second full term in office. In 2012, he won his race with just over 60 percent of the vote -- but just four years later, his state voted for Mr. Trump by a whopping 42-point margin.

North Dakota, where incumbent Democrat Heidi Heitkamp is up again is almost equally as deep red: the state voted for Trump by a 36-point margin earlier this month. And while Trump won by slightly smaller margins in the other three states in this category, it still wasn’t pretty for Democrats this fall: Trump won Montana, Indiana and Missouri by 21 points, 19 points and 19 points, respectively.

These states were to Democrats what Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were supposed to be to Republicans in 2016: states where they had unexpected victories back in 2012, in a presidential year, but must now contend with the fact that their incumbents there face tough odds. Heitkamp’s victory in North Dakota, for example, was a surprise -- as was Sen. Jon Tester’s in Montana.

And two of the Democrats who won in GOP-leaning states in 2012 benefited greatly from the missteps of their opponents: Sen. Claire McCaskill was seen as highly vulnerable in Missouri until her GOP opponent, Todd Akin, made a comment about “legitimate rape” that had echoes far beyond the state. Similarly, Indiana’s Joe Donnelly found an opening when his opponent, Richard Mourdock, said during a debate that a pregnancy resulting from rape is “something that God intended to happen.”

[...]

Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

Democrats will have a tough time in the midterms. They have to defend more seats in the Senate and Republicans have Gerrymandered the House

Their only hope is a popular backlash against Trump similar to what Bush saw after the Iraq invasion fell apart

 

[rightwinger]

Why bother? Think it's gonna slow him down?

Probably not......Trump is not too sane anyway and his delusions would not allow reality to sink in....
However, right wingers in congress are fully aware of their reelection chances.

Now that's where it can matter.

The most important polls to me are the internals being run by vulnerable Republican congresspeople.
.

I take it that you have no clue as to how many vulnerable Democrats, in states won in previous years by petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama and won by President Donald Trump this election.

By EMILY SCHULTHEIS CBS NEWS November 21, 2016, 6:00 AM
Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

[...]

Democrats in Republican territory: West Virginia, North Dakota, Montana, Missouri, Indiana
Right off the bat, there are five states where Democrats have incumbent Senators who face very steep odds of re-election: the traditionally deeply Republican states in which Mr. Trump won by double digits this November.

Take West Virginia, for example: Democrat Joe Manchin is running in 2018 for a second full term in office. In 2012, he won his race with just over 60 percent of the vote -- but just four years later, his state voted for Mr. Trump by a whopping 42-point margin.

North Dakota, where incumbent Democrat Heidi Heitkamp is up again is almost equally as deep red: the state voted for Trump by a 36-point margin earlier this month. And while Trump won by slightly smaller margins in the other three states in this category, it still wasn’t pretty for Democrats this fall: Trump won Montana, Indiana and Missouri by 21 points, 19 points and 19 points, respectively.

These states were to Democrats what Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were supposed to be to Republicans in 2016: states where they had unexpected victories back in 2012, in a presidential year, but must now contend with the fact that their incumbents there face tough odds. Heitkamp’s victory in North Dakota, for example, was a surprise -- as was Sen. Jon Tester’s in Montana.

And two of the Democrats who won in GOP-leaning states in 2012 benefited greatly from the missteps of their opponents: Sen. Claire McCaskill was seen as highly vulnerable in Missouri until her GOP opponent, Todd Akin, made a comment about “legitimate rape” that had echoes far beyond the state. Similarly, Indiana’s Joe Donnelly found an opening when his opponent, Richard Mourdock, said during a debate that a pregnancy resulting from rape is “something that God intended to happen.”

[...]

Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

That's all correct, but it has nothing to do with my point.

If a Republican congressperson's internal polling indicates to them that they can't vote too far to the Right, they'll be less likely to do so.

An example would be Collins & Murkowski saying they'll vote against DeVos. That might happen here and there.

That's the best the Democrats can hope for right now.
.

With Trump polling in the low 40s, Republicans can oppose him and claim the people are against him
Guys like McCain, who will never run again will be a pain in the ass

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Why bother? Think it's gonna slow him down?

Probably not......Trump is not too sane anyway and his delusions would not allow reality to sink in....
However, right wingers in congress are fully aware of their reelection chances.

Now that's where it can matter.

The most important polls to me are the internals being run by vulnerable Republican congresspeople.
.

I take it that you have no clue as to how many vulnerable Democrats, in states won in previous years by petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama and won by President Donald Trump this election.

By EMILY SCHULTHEIS CBS NEWS November 21, 2016, 6:00 AM
Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

[...]

Democrats in Republican territory: West Virginia, North Dakota, Montana, Missouri, Indiana
Right off the bat, there are five states where Democrats have incumbent Senators who face very steep odds of re-election: the traditionally deeply Republican states in which Mr. Trump won by double digits this November.

Take West Virginia, for example: Democrat Joe Manchin is running in 2018 for a second full term in office. In 2012, he won his race with just over 60 percent of the vote -- but just four years later, his state voted for Mr. Trump by a whopping 42-point margin.

North Dakota, where incumbent Democrat Heidi Heitkamp is up again is almost equally as deep red: the state voted for Trump by a 36-point margin earlier this month. And while Trump won by slightly smaller margins in the other three states in this category, it still wasn’t pretty for Democrats this fall: Trump won Montana, Indiana and Missouri by 21 points, 19 points and 19 points, respectively.

These states were to Democrats what Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were supposed to be to Republicans in 2016: states where they had unexpected victories back in 2012, in a presidential year, but must now contend with the fact that their incumbents there face tough odds. Heitkamp’s victory in North Dakota, for example, was a surprise -- as was Sen. Jon Tester’s in Montana.

And two of the Democrats who won in GOP-leaning states in 2012 benefited greatly from the missteps of their opponents: Sen. Claire McCaskill was seen as highly vulnerable in Missouri until her GOP opponent, Todd Akin, made a comment about “legitimate rape” that had echoes far beyond the state. Similarly, Indiana’s Joe Donnelly found an opening when his opponent, Richard Mourdock, said during a debate that a pregnancy resulting from rape is “something that God intended to happen.”

[...]

Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

Democrats will have a tough time in the midterms. They have to defend more seats in the Senate and Republicans have Gerrymandered the House

Their only hope is a popular backlash against Trump similar to what Bush saw after the Iraq invasion fell apart

You might want to run some descent candidates too.

That would help a great deal.

 

[nat4900]

You might want to run some descent candidates too.

True.......and the term is "decent" not "descent".....

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You might want to run some descent candidates too.

True.......and the term is "decent" not "descent".....

Keep at in Nattie......

So far you don't have them.....

Lizzy Warren will go down in flames....

And right now, the democrats at the state level are to busy fighting with each other to do anything collectively capable of beating the GOP.

What's funny is that the GOP is a mess....have been for years. How do you think Trump got through ?

And they still kicked your asses.......

 

[nat4900]

So far you don't have them.....

Actually, that is why I APPROVE of these huge anti-Trump demonstrations....From these events, leadership will emerge....not from those lazy democrats in congress, but from states and local governments.

 

[Markle]

How many campaign promises did Obama keep?

Dumb question to respond to after Obama's 8 years in office......Probably the biggest promise that Obama could NOT keep is the closing of GITMO.......but then, of course, those "sweethearts" in congress just sat on their fat asses worrying about their reelection and decided to do NOTHING to help the country for more than FIVE long years......

Check out all thos [those] great bills that congress passed from 2011. to 2016.....

How about a list of "those great bills" that congress passed from 2011 to 2016.

Petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama promised on his first day to close GITMO, resulting this past year his freeing the worst of the worst going back to the battlefield. ObamaCare = FAILURE, Iraq = FAILURE, Syria = FAILURE, Economy = FAILURE, Afghanistan = FAILURE, Cash for Junkers = FAILURE, Fast and Furious = FAILURE, Stimulus = FAILURE. And the list goes on...and on...and on!

 

[nat4900]

How many campaign promises did Obama keep?

Dumb question to respond to after Obama's 8 years in office......Probably the biggest promise that Obama could NOT keep is the closing of GITMO.......but then, of course, those "sweethearts" in congress just sat on their fat asses worrying about their reelection and decided to do NOTHING to help the country for more than FIVE long years......

Check out all thos [those] great bills that congress passed from 2011. to 2016.....

How about a list of "those great bills" that congress passed from 2011 to 2016.

Petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama promised on his first day to close GITMO, resulting this past year his freeing the worst of the worst going back to the battlefield. ObamaCare = FAILURE, Iraq = FAILURE, Syria = FAILURE, Economy = FAILURE, Afghanistan = FAILURE, Cash for Junkers = FAILURE, Fast and Furious = FAILURE, Stimulus = FAILURE. And the list goes on...and on...and on!

So, THIS above **** head DID want Gitmo closed....Who knew? LOL

Ask right wingers in congress why our federal prisons are too loose for those prisoners at GITMO.

 

[talksalot]

I'd never deny that democrats and progressives are rather lazy when it comes to showing up to vote and actively determine the type of governance we should live under........but right wingers are fully delusional when they see themselves as representing the "will of the majority of Americans."'

I always like to point out the map by population versus the outdated electoral college.

View attachment 110616

Proof that the left uses torture. Look what they've done to the U.S. in an attempt to make a point.
Losers!

 

[Markle]

When (if ever) will R-W'ers admit to Trump's approval ratings?

He'll never beat Hillary if this keeps up. DERP!

Beat Hillary? Did you miss the election way back in November?

 

[rightwinger]

Why bother? Think it's gonna slow him down?

Probably not......Trump is not too sane anyway and his delusions would not allow reality to sink in....
However, right wingers in congress are fully aware of their reelection chances.

Now that's where it can matter.

The most important polls to me are the internals being run by vulnerable Republican congresspeople.
.

I take it that you have no clue as to how many vulnerable Democrats, in states won in previous years by petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama and won by President Donald Trump this election.

By EMILY SCHULTHEIS CBS NEWS November 21, 2016, 6:00 AM
Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

[...]

Democrats in Republican territory: West Virginia, North Dakota, Montana, Missouri, Indiana
Right off the bat, there are five states where Democrats have incumbent Senators who face very steep odds of re-election: the traditionally deeply Republican states in which Mr. Trump won by double digits this November.

Take West Virginia, for example: Democrat Joe Manchin is running in 2018 for a second full term in office. In 2012, he won his race with just over 60 percent of the vote -- but just four years later, his state voted for Mr. Trump by a whopping 42-point margin.

North Dakota, where incumbent Democrat Heidi Heitkamp is up again is almost equally as deep red: the state voted for Trump by a 36-point margin earlier this month. And while Trump won by slightly smaller margins in the other three states in this category, it still wasn’t pretty for Democrats this fall: Trump won Montana, Indiana and Missouri by 21 points, 19 points and 19 points, respectively.

These states were to Democrats what Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were supposed to be to Republicans in 2016: states where they had unexpected victories back in 2012, in a presidential year, but must now contend with the fact that their incumbents there face tough odds. Heitkamp’s victory in North Dakota, for example, was a surprise -- as was Sen. Jon Tester’s in Montana.

And two of the Democrats who won in GOP-leaning states in 2012 benefited greatly from the missteps of their opponents: Sen. Claire McCaskill was seen as highly vulnerable in Missouri until her GOP opponent, Todd Akin, made a comment about “legitimate rape” that had echoes far beyond the state. Similarly, Indiana’s Joe Donnelly found an opening when his opponent, Richard Mourdock, said during a debate that a pregnancy resulting from rape is “something that God intended to happen.”

[...]

Democrats face tough Senate map in 2018

Democrats will have a tough time in the midterms. They have to defend more seats in the Senate and Republicans have Gerrymandered the House

Their only hope is a popular backlash against Trump similar to what Bush saw after the Iraq invasion fell apart

You might want to run some descent candidates too.

That would help a great deal.

I agree....Dems need to run better candidates at all levels

 

[nat4900]

Proof that the left uses torture. Look what they've done to the U.S. in an attempt to make a point.
Losers!

So early in the morning to be so drunk.....LOL

 

[Markle]

The same polls showed him losing states he won. Doesn't that seem odd to you?

No, not really.....Buyers' remorse sets in quite quickly.....At this rate, even polling in Texas may have Trump down.

Wasn't Hillary going to win Texas?

She was forecast to win a whole lot more. Some of their estimates were that Crooked Hillary was expected to win 400 Electoral College votes. Wow...that was really a shock to them.

 

[kaz]

Right wingers on here and elsewhere, speak of Trump as representing "the people of America" and that whatever he has done and will do is the "will of the people."

Well, that's typical R-W bullshit.......From such regulations signed by Trump without direct congressional backing, such as repealing the fiduciary rule on investors looking out for client's benefit, or repealing the ban on mentally ill people from owning lethal guns.

The facts are clear regardless of R-Wers insanity and delusions.

RCP has Trump's approval rating at 42%, while DISAPPROVAL at 50%........Buyers' remorse has already set in after only 2 weeks of the demagogue sitting in the oval office.

Speaking "of" buyer's remorse, "you regretting" the corrupt criminal "you" nominated "now?"