When do ICE agents start getting charged with false arrest and excessive use of force?

[WEATHER53]

Liberals, even modern Democrats, have a tradition of standing up for people being abused by the state. It's one of their few good qualities.

Response by the state to instigation or enactment is not abuse

 

[Delldude]

Liberals, even modern Democrats, have a tradition of standing up for people getting the dirty end of the stick. It's one of their few good qualities. That doesn't cover up their hypocrisy, but I'm not going to criticize them for at least trying to do the right thing.

By breaking the law......what hero's.

 

[dblack]

Response by the state to instigation or enactment is not abuse

Depends on how it's done. It's a subjective evaluation, in any case.

 

[marvin martian]

Liberals, even modern Democrats, have a tradition of standing up for people getting the dirty end of the stick. It's one of their few good qualities. That doesn't cover up their hypocrisy, but I'm not going to criticize them for at least trying to do the right thing.

Maybe in some distant past. The current Dem party belongs to the billionaires and the criminals.

 

[dblack]

By breaking the law......what hero's.

I didn't say they were heroes. I'm just saying standing up for the "downtrodden" is a liberal tradition, and a good thing. That doesn't prevent them from "doing it wrong". But the question was why Dems are fixated on the plight of illegal aliens. I answered.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They cause a ruckus in a public setting and then find a pretense to arrest an elected official who just happens to be a Dem.

Only when the Dem asshole is interfering with ICE.

 

[Bleipriester]

Liberals, even modern Democrats, have a tradition of standing up for people getting the dirty end of the stick. It's one of their few good qualities. That doesn't cover up their hypocrisy, but I'm not going to criticize them for at least trying to do the right thing.

If that quality turns into an excess it becomes a malfunction. Their behavior causes more illegals to come. And more and more. Crisis after crisis. It is just madness, this needs to be realized. It harms all countries involved.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Liberals, even modern Democrats, have a tradition of standing up for people being abused by the state. It's one of their few good qualities.

Lib Logic:
“Abused by the state” = Arresting and deporting alien enemies.

Liberals, even modern Democrats, have a tradition of standing up for people being abused by the state.

Did they stand up for J6’ers?

And Republicans have a tradition of standing up for America, for Americans and for taxpayers.

 

[toobfreak]

Never. They're executing Federal law, the state has no authority over them.
IOW, tough luck.

The OP is an idiot troll. Imagine: first democrats act like spoiled brats forcing authorities to act, then when they do the slightest thing, then they use the incident THEY created to yell "police brutality!"

And this is the left's BEST ideas for winning the next election.

 

[dblack]

If that quality turns into an excess it becomes a malfunction.

Yup. It sure can.

Their behavior causes more illegals to come. And more and more. Crisis after crisis. It is just madness, this needs to be realized. It harms all countries involved.

Many moons ago, I visited the Alamo - in Texas. The tour guide went over the history of the region and why the Alamo was such an important battle. I'll summarize:

After Mexico won its independence from Spain, they found themselves the proud owners of the territory of Texas. But it was sparsely populated and in need of people to establish a civilized presence. So they created programs to entice US residents, hungry for opportunity, to settle the region. They offered free land, and even cash incentives, for foreigners willing to tame the land and, eventually, pay taxes.

After twenty years or so, conservatives in Mexico City won leadership of the government. And they weren't as enthused about foreigners populating "their" land. The newbs weren't speaking Spanish and the Mexican government worried that they would water down the culture. So they cancelled the induced immigration policies, and began passing laws to close the border and crack down on US immigration.

But when you have opportunity on one side of a border, and hungry people on the other, the border tends to get ignored. Americans continued to flood the region and the Mexican government decided to take a hard line. Thus the Alamo. That turned out to be a pretty bad idea.

 

[Delldude]

But the question was why Dems are fixated on the plight of illegal aliens. I'm answered.

I don't think so. Flooding the market with illegals wasn't an act of compassion......they were using them for future votes to solidify party control over the country.

They've exploited every minority for votes, and Latinos and Black's have begun to wake up. They have been tossed aside for a new agenda.

 

[WEATHER53]

Now the Alamo has been offered.

 

[JohnDB]

One day,,,
When Democrats actually think of an original idea and make it a platform issue....

They might get a real vote by someone.


Until that day all they have is obstructionist politics. And EVERYONE, including rank and file Democrats, will continue to not vote for them.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Congressional hearings are called for but the POT is running the show and they're all too afraid to show some courage and speak out or take action.

True – Republicans are cowards and blind partisan hacks.

And ICE agents should have been charged with false arrest and excessive use of force starting last January.

 

[dblack]

I don't think so. Flooding the market with illegals wasn't an act of compassion......they were using them for future votes to solidify party control over the country.

Sure. Plenty of hypocrisy and corruption involved. I'm not giving them a pass. Just answering the question.

 

[Bleipriester]

Yup. It sure can.


Many moons ago, I visited the Alamo - in Texas. The tour guide went over the history of the region and why the Alamo was such an important battle. I'll summarize:

After Mexico won its independence from Spain, they found themselves the proud owners of the territory of Texas. But it was sparsely populated and in need of people to establish a civilized presence. So they created programs to entice US residents, hungry for opportunity, to settle the region. They offered free land, and even cash incentives, for foreigners willing to tame the land and, eventually, pay taxes.

After twenty years or so, conservatives in Mexico City won leadership of the government. And they weren't as enthused about foreigners populating "their" land. The newbs weren't speaking Spanish and the Mexican government worried that they would water down the culture. So they cancelled the induced immigration policies, and began passing laws to close the border and crack down on US immigration.

But when you have opportunity on one side of a border, and hungry people on the other, the border tends to get ignored. Americans continued to flood the region and the Mexican government decided to take a hard line. Thus the Alamo. That turned out to be a pretty bad idea.

So we can conclude that open borders will ultimately result in the loss of the land. One way or another.
But we have two major differences today. First, the US cities are not empty. And second, Mexico isn´t poor.
But we are actually not debating migration. We are debating illegal migration.

 

[Dragonlady]

Never. They're executing Federal law, the state has no authority over them.

IOW, tough luck.

They are violated federal law, and the rights of residents under the Constitution.

Without warrants??? Landry asked to see their warrants and was dragged off in handcuffs, just like Padilla, and the Democrats at the ICE facility in New Jersey. These thugs need to obey the law. The ICE agents are required to act legally at all time.

The low life assaults on immigrants going to court hearings, immigration meetings and school graduations stand in direct opposition to what the American people voted for. Trump is trying to threaten and intimidate people from running for office on the Democratic ticket.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You left a little something out, dude.

NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander arrested by DHS agents, released hours later after alleged officer assault

Brad Lander, NYC comptroller, faces possible charges of assaulting a federal officer after ICE arrest, with officials condemning the action as "extreme thuggery" and "fascism."

www.foxnews.com

Video footage of Lander's arrest appeared to show him hanging onto Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents as they escorted a defendant out of immigration court at 26 Federal Plaza, repeatedly asking officials if they had a judicial warrant.

"I will let go when you show me the judicial warrant!" Lander said in the video. "Where is it?! Where is the warrant?!"

Far from over-reacting, ICE is showing way too much deference to these political assholes.

Can you imagine if I - an ordinary teacher from Texas - were to grab a federal agent? Or you, g5000 did the same? We'd be slammed and handcuffed in a less than gentle manner, and appear before a federal judge who would want to put us under the jail.

Unless it was an activist judge and I said that it was the federal officers' fault for enforcing immigration law'

What is this "Judicial Warrant" nonsense? ALL warrants must be executed, not just "judicial warrants." Brad Whoever was blocking federal officers from doing their job. Where's Rooster Cogburn when we need him?

 

[berg80]

When do ICE agents start getting charged with false arrest and excessive use of force?​

The answer is never. Because they work under the protection of the regime and the subservient sock puppet known as Pam.

 

[dblack]

So we can conclude that open borders will ultimately result in the loss of the land. One way or another.
But we have to major differences today. First, the US cities are not empty. And second, Mexico isn´t poor.
But we are actually not debating migration. We are debating illegal migration.

Different when we do it. It always is.