When did Trump become racist, btw?

[JoeB131]

the point is - they used his race cause they knew you'd go ape shit in faux moral outrage, not because they cared.

they planned on it being disruptive - all they cared about. way to get used like that.

Naw, dummy, you are confused. They used his race because they were appealing to racists. Because some of you wingnuts really think he was born in Kenya.

I mean, "He's trying to impose the health care plan that Mitt Romney suggested" might have been a non-racist argument, but you guys didn't make that argument.

Bullshit only the fringe right was racist towards obozo, it was about his anti business and socialist policys

You mean the ones where he saved the banks and the Auto Industry? Those "anti-business Policies".

Put down the ******* bottle!!!!!

 

[Wyatt earp]

the point is - they used his race cause they knew you'd go ape shit in faux moral outrage, not because they cared.

they planned on it being disruptive - all they cared about. way to get used like that.

Naw, dummy, you are confused. They used his race because they were appealing to racists. Because some of you wingnuts really think he was born in Kenya.

I mean, "He's trying to impose the health care plan that Mitt Romney suggested" might have been a non-racist argument, but you guys didn't make that argument.

Bullshit only the fringe right was racist towards obozo, it was about his anti business and socialist policys

You mean the ones where he saved the banks and the Auto Industry? Those "anti-business Policies".

Put down the ******* bottle!!!!!

You get fired ? Why you posting at 4:30 pm?


And bullshit, Romney care was bi partisan
In case you didn't know meth head Joe not all republicans live in Massachusetts and Obama care is not even Obama care , he changed it what 49 times since he signed it in to law?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Any criticism of Obama was met with "racially tinged" attack across the board. If people did not like a policy, "racist". If people questioned birth certificate, "racist". If people questioned relationships, "racist". People questioned Bush's National Guard service the same way people questioned Obama's birthplace.

Um, no.

Bush's National Guard service was a legit issue, given he was asking thousands of men to lay down their lives, the fact he apparently couldn't be bothered to show up to drill assemblies once a month was kind of important. Particularly since strings were pulled to get him that cushy position to start with.

The BC issue was racist crap from day one. Unlike Bush and Trump, Obama had a clear mandate from the people.

While you are on your high horse bashing Bush on such a so-called ‘legit’ issue that Dan Rather had to use 1972 Microsoft Word Documents to prove it, you may want to visit your other part where you take Bush to task on having strings pulled so he could be on the Guard vs. Vietnam. Bill Clinton had strings pulled so he could get out of Vietnam AND the National Guard.

You keep trying to insert the racist card on the Birth Control issue yet provide no empirical data to back it up.

 

[JoeB131]

You get fired ? Why you posting at 4:30 pm?

If you've been paying attention, you'd know I'm an independent business owner.

And bullshit, Romney care was bi partisan

But that was the point. The GOP had no problem with RomneyCare and it's mandates and expansion of medicare. They thought it was preferable to the Hillary Solution of a Public option that everyone would eventually end up on because it would be superior to a cheating insurance company.

And then the Black Guy did it! They all became opposed to it.

In case you didn't know meth head Joe not all republicans live in Massachusetts and Obama care is not even Obama care , he changed it what 49 times since he signed it in to law?

Very minor changes. Not the point at all that I was making. Put down the ******* bottle.

 

[JoeB131]

While you are on your high horse bashing Bush on such a so-called ‘legit’ issue that Dan Rather had to use 1972 Microsoft Word Documents to prove it, you may want to visit your other part where you take Bush to task on having strings pulled so he could be on the Guard vs. Vietnam.

What Dan Rather did was stupid. But the fact remains, Bush didn't attend any of his drills between 1972 and 1973, and no one knew where he was. (My guess, sleeping off a bender, but never mind.)

And, yes, he was selected for pilot training even though he barely qualified, but his Daddy was an important congressman at the time, so they made an exception

Bill Clinton had strings pulled so he could get out of Vietnam AND the National Guard.

Not really. The thing was, an ROTC officer really did want him to sign up! Shit, of course they did. He was a Rhodes Scholar! A real peach if you could sign him up. But Clinton took a principled stand that the Vietnam War was wrong and protested against it. As opposed to Bush, who thought the Vietnam War was fine as long as someone else was fighting it.

You keep trying to insert the racist card on the Birth Control issue yet provide no empirical data to back it up.

"Birth Control"? Oh, never mind.

 

[LeftofLeft]

While you are on your high horse bashing Bush on such a so-called ‘legit’ issue that Dan Rather had to use 1972 Microsoft Word Documents to prove it, you may want to visit your other part where you take Bush to task on having strings pulled so he could be on the Guard vs. Vietnam.

What Dan Rather did was stupid. But the fact remains, Bush didn't attend any of his drills between 1972 and 1973, and no one knew where he was. (My guess, sleeping off a bender, but never mind.)

And, yes, he was selected for pilot training even though he barely qualified, but his Daddy was an important congressman at the time, so they made an exception

Bill Clinton had strings pulled so he could get out of Vietnam AND the National Guard.

Not really. The thing was, an ROTC officer really did want him to sign up! Shit, of course they did. He was a Rhodes Scholar! A real peach if you could sign him up. But Clinton took a principled stand that the Vietnam War was wrong and protested against it. As opposed to Bush, who thought the Vietnam War was fine as long as someone else was fighting it.

You keep trying to insert the racist card on the Birth Control issue yet provide no empirical data to back it up.

"Birth Control"? Oh, never mind.

Your analysis of Bush v. Clinton and Vietnam shows how blindly devoted to Democrats you really are. When you say, “the fact remains” yet don’t provide empirical data to back it up creates major holes in your premise. Further, you, like many, laud Clinton for getting out of Vietnam on principle yet trash Bush for getting out and flying planes in the Guard. Objectively, both got out of going to Vietnam with strings being pulled. Bush was flying planes and Clinton was protesting against Vietnam in London and Moscow becoming fodder propaganda for the North Vietnamese to shove in the faces of American POWs for torture.

 

[LeftofLeft]

While you are on your high horse bashing Bush on such a so-called ‘legit’ issue that Dan Rather had to use 1972 Microsoft Word Documents to prove it, you may want to visit your other part where you take Bush to task on having strings pulled so he could be on the Guard vs. Vietnam.

What Dan Rather did was stupid. But the fact remains, Bush didn't attend any of his drills between 1972 and 1973, and no one knew where he was. (My guess, sleeping off a bender, but never mind.)

And, yes, he was selected for pilot training even though he barely qualified, but his Daddy was an important congressman at the time, so they made an exception

Bill Clinton had strings pulled so he could get out of Vietnam AND the National Guard.

Not really. The thing was, an ROTC officer really did want him to sign up! Shit, of course they did. He was a Rhodes Scholar! A real peach if you could sign him up. But Clinton took a principled stand that the Vietnam War was wrong and protested against it. As opposed to Bush, who thought the Vietnam War was fine as long as someone else was fighting it.

You keep trying to insert the racist card on the Birth Control issue yet provide no empirical data to back it up.

"Birth Control"? Oh, never mind.

If Bush was factually proven to be AWOL then Rather would have had no reason to act so stupidly.

 

[JoeB131]

Your analysis of Bush v. Clinton and Vietnam shows how blindly devoted to Democrats you really are. When you say, “the fact remains” yet don’t provide empirical data to back it up creates major holes in your premise.

Except that Bush's official OER from 1973 reads, "Officer was not observed at this unit". So where was he?

It's a valid question.

If Bush was factually proven to be AWOL then Rather would have had no reason to act so stupidly.

Except the word AWOL was never used. In fact, AWOL is not a designation the National Guard uses. If he didn't show up for his drill, he would have been marked either an excused absence or an unexcused absence. And if it was the former, then there would be a record of it.

Further, you, like many, laud Clinton for getting out of Vietnam on principle yet trash Bush for getting out and flying planes in the Guard.

I Laud Clinton for standing by his principles of not wanting to fight in a war he didn't support. Bush was all for the war, as long as someone else was fighting it. That's what makes him sort of contemptible.

Objectively, both got out of going to Vietnam with strings being pulled.

Except there were no strings pulled in Clinton's case. In Clinton's case, he was in the Draft Lottery and his number didn't come up. In Bush's case, strings were pulled to get him into a ANG unit, and then he didn't even show up for the drills.

Bush was flying planes and Clinton was protesting against Vietnam in London and Moscow becoming fodder propaganda for the North Vietnamese to shove in the faces of American POWs for torture.

Well, there's no evidence that he protested in Moscow... and somehow, I don't think the Vietnamese lacked for pictures of people protesting that insanely stupid war.

The thing about Vietnam was that the people who started it knew it was unwinnable from pretty much the outset. We'd probably still be fighting it if someone hadn't protested the thing.

 

[Lastamender]

the point is - they used his race cause they knew you'd go ape shit in faux moral outrage, not because they cared.

they planned on it being disruptive - all they cared about. way to get used like that.

Naw, dummy, you are confused. They used his race because they were appealing to racists. Because some of you wingnuts really think he was born in Kenya.

I mean, "He's trying to impose the health care plan that Mitt Romney suggested" might have been a non-racist argument, but you guys didn't make that argument.

Bullshit only the fringe right was racist towards obozo, it was about his anti business and socialist policys

You mean the ones where he saved the banks and the Auto Industry? Those "anti-business Policies".

Put down the ******* bottle!!!!!

Harvard made the same mistake, and Obama's brother. Are they wingnuts?

 

[iceberg]

the point is - they used his race cause they knew you'd go ape shit in faux moral outrage, not because they cared.

they planned on it being disruptive - all they cared about. way to get used like that.

Naw, dummy, you are confused. They used his race because they were appealing to racists. Because some of you wingnuts really think he was born in Kenya.

I mean, "He's trying to impose the health care plan that Mitt Romney suggested" might have been a non-racist argument, but you guys didn't make that argument.

Bullshit only the fringe right was racist towards obozo, it was about his anti business and socialist policys

You mean the ones where he saved the banks and the Auto Industry? Those "anti-business Policies".

Put down the ******* bottle!!!!!

**** off.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Your analysis of Bush v. Clinton and Vietnam shows how blindly devoted to Democrats you really are. When you say, “the fact remains” yet don’t provide empirical data to back it up creates major holes in your premise.

Except that Bush's official OER from 1973 reads, "Officer was not observed at this unit". So where was he?

It's a valid question.

If Bush was factually proven to be AWOL then Rather would have had no reason to act so stupidly.

Except the word AWOL was never used. In fact, AWOL is not a designation the National Guard uses. If he didn't show up for his drill, he would have been marked either an excused absence or an unexcused absence. And if it was the former, then there would be a record of it.

Further, you, like many, laud Clinton for getting out of Vietnam on principle yet trash Bush for getting out and flying planes in the Guard.

I Laud Clinton for standing by his principles of not wanting to fight in a war he didn't support. Bush was all for the war, as long as someone else was fighting it. That's what makes him sort of contemptible.

Objectively, both got out of going to Vietnam with strings being pulled.

Except there were no strings pulled in Clinton's case. In Clinton's case, he was in the Draft Lottery and his number didn't come up. In Bush's case, strings were pulled to get him into a ANG unit, and then he didn't even show up for the drills.

Bush was flying planes and Clinton was protesting against Vietnam in London and Moscow becoming fodder propaganda for the North Vietnamese to shove in the faces of American POWs for torture.

Well, there's no evidence that he protested in Moscow... and somehow, I don't think the Vietnamese lacked for pictures of people protesting that insanely stupid war.

The thing about Vietnam was that the people who started it knew it was unwinnable from pretty much the outset. We'd probably still be fighting it if someone hadn't protested the thing.

Where is the source of Bush OER? Hell, that’s like saying, “Kenyan lady says she is Obama’s grandmother and he was born in Kenya”.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You don't know?

Was it when he called for the death penalty for the 5 innocent black men imprisoned in NYC for a crime they did not commit?

Or was it when he went on his five to eight year lying Birther movement claiming Obama was an illigitimate president?

Or maybe it was when he came down the golden escalator and then proclaimed Mexico was sending us their murderers and rapists?

Or maybe it was when he claimed an American born judge could not be fair in his Trump University scam trial because he had Mexican heritage in his blood line?

Or when his company was fined for breaking our discrimination laws?

Or perhaps it was his first Muslim travel ban or before that calling for Muslims to be kicked out?

Or was it his Charlottesville comments?

I see nothing racist in any of those statements.

 

[JoeB131]

Harvard made the same mistake, and Obama's brother. Are they wingnuts?

Obama's half brother would tell you Obama was a space alien if you gave him enough money.

As for Harvard, not sure what you are talking about.

 

[JoeB131]

Where is the source of Bush OER? Hell, that’s like saying, “Kenyan lady says she is Obama’s grandmother and he was born in Kenya”.

Documents were obtained from the TX ANG through the FOIA.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/opinion/lechliter.pdf

His May 1973 F77 is the one in which his superiors wrote they could not rate him because he was in Alabama performing his obligated ANACDUTRA and INACDUTRA for the previous year.127 When that report hit ARPC, an ARPC Form 204 was sent to Bush's Texas unit ordering it to obtain an AF Form 77a from the training unit in Alabama so that Bush "can be rated in the position he held"; it added, "Ratings must be entered on this officer in Sections V & VI [of the AF Form 77]"; the suspense date for responding was August 6, 1973.128 When the AF Form 77a was completed on November 12, 1973, more than three months past its suspense date, after Bush had been discharged from the TXANG, it simply stated, "Report for this period not available for administrative reasons."129 It had absolutely no input from the Alabama ANG. Why did his TXANG unit disregard the suspense date and submit the form after Bush was discharged in October 1973? Why had his TXANG unit not obtained input from the Alabama unit? Could nobody there provide any input on Bush's performance? If Bush had a supervisor and Calhoun’s statement about him fulfilling his duties conscientiously is true, why did his TXANG leadership comply with the order from ARPC?

 

[JoeB131]

**** off.

Your concession is duly noted.

 

[JoeB131]

I see nothing racist in any of those statements.

Of course you don't. That's the problem.

 

[Lastamender]

Harvard made the same mistake, and Obama's brother. Are they wingnuts?

Obama's half brother would tell you Obama was a space alien if you gave him enough money.

As for Harvard, not sure what you are talking about.

A pamphlet announcing Obama was a Kenyan exchange student published by Harvard before a speaking date.

 

[JoeB131]

A pamphlet announcing Obama was a Kenyan exchange student published by Harvard before a speaking date.

1) It wasn't published by Harvard, it was published by a literary agency.
2) The person who wrote it admitted she didn't do her research properly and made a mistake.
3) Only racists STILL claim Obama wasn't born here.

Obama's Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?

 

[Lastamender]

A pamphlet announcing Obama was a Kenyan exchange student published by Harvard before a speaking date.

1) It wasn't published by Harvard, it was published by a literary agency.
2) The person who wrote it admitted she didn't do her research properly and made a mistake.
3) Only racists STILL claim Obama wasn't born here.

Obama's Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?

How would you know what racists think?

A pamphlet announcing Obama was a Kenyan exchange student published by Harvard before a speaking date.

1) It wasn't published by Harvard, it was published by a literary agency.
2) The person who wrote it admitted she didn't do her research properly and made a mistake.
3) Only racists STILL claim Obama wasn't born here.

Obama's Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?

Harvard does not vet who they employ? When did that person say she made a mistake, what year? Next, your racist crap is a moot point, whites are born in Keyna also.

 

[JoeB131]

How would you know what racists think?

They leave their brain-drippings all over this board, unfortunately.

Harvard does not vet who they employ? When did that person say she made a mistake, what year? Next, your racist crap is a moot point, whites are born in Keyna also.

Keyna pretty much threw out its whites, in case you missed the Mau-Mau thingee...

Nobody thought anything about this mistake until someone brought it up years later. Probably because the were like 100 copies printed that no one actually read.