When did Obama First Meet Bill Ayers?

[JimBowie1958]

Libtards like to bleet the mantra that Obama did not meet Bill Ayers until 1995, then try to make other claims based on that, but do we really know what date they first met?

A couple of facts contrary to the 1995 date:

1) Michelle Obama worked at the law firm Sidley Austin after she graduated in 1988 where she met her future husband, Barak.

Michelle Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband. "

Guess who else worked at Sidley Austin?

Bernardine Dohrn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"From 1984 to 1988, Dohrn was employed by the prestigious Chicago law firm Sidley Austin [29] where she was hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm at that time, who knew Thomas G. Ayers, the father of Dohrn's husband. "We often hire friends," Trienens told a reporter for the Chicago Tribune.....In 1991, she was hired by Northwestern University School of Law, as an adjunct professor of law with the title "Clinical Associate Professor of Law"."

So we are to believe that Dorm just sat at home watching Oprah and eating bon-bons?

No, she continued her affiliation while she tried to become a lawyer and undoubtedly knew Barrack and Michelle.

Dorm is Bill Ayers wife.

2) Barak knew Thomas Ayers (Bill Ayers father) while both served on the "Leadership Council of the Chicago Education Fund from 1988.

The Obama Nation - Jerome R. Corsi - Google Books

3) Frank Synauth's book the Making of a President says this on page 117 Chapter ten that Barak got help on Dreams of my Father from Bill Ayers. Apparently this was OK to admit prior to the election.

The Making of a President - Frank Senauth - Google Books


And what evidence do we have to the contrary? A couple of liars and one of them also a terrorist who still hates the US?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Did Bill Ayers Write Obama?s Book?

Also unfortunately for Obama, Andersen’s sources – all of whom were sympathetic and appear to be at least neighbors to Obama – came to other conclusions. Andersen wrote:

These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers. “Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together,” another Hyde Park neighbor pointed out. “It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both.” In the end, Ayers’ contribution to Barack’s Dreams From My Father would be significant – so much so that the book’s language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers’ own writing. Even the caveat at the beginning of Dreams, in which Barack points out that he uses invented dialogue, embellished facts, composite characters, inaccurate chronology, and pseudonyms to create an “approximation” of reality, resembles Ayers’ defense of the inaccuracies in his memoir Fugitive Days. In the foreword to his book, Ayers states that the book is merely a collection of his personal memories and “impressions.” … Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books.

On Sean Hannity’s show, Andersen explained why:

During that campaign I think he was doing some backpedaling, I’ll be honest. And I think that Michelle probably recommended that he not emphasize their relationship with Ayers.

 

[JimBowie1958]

How much do we really know about Barrack Obama?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUf4mmBPhUDcgxbJmSYvrSlQ&feature=player_embedded&v=c1ADSvD79KI]The Video Obama Does Not Want You To See - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Wow - riveting stuff.

"Who knew?"

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Libtards like to bleet the mantra that Obama did not meet Bill Ayers until 1995, then try to make other claims based on that, but do we really know what date they first met?

A couple of facts contrary to the 1995 date:

1) Michelle Obama worked at the law firm Sidley Austin after she graduated in 1988 where she met her future husband, Barak.

Michelle Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband. "

Guess who else worked at Sidley Austin?

Bernardine Dohrn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"From 1984 to 1988, Dohrn was employed by the prestigious Chicago law firm Sidley Austin [29] where she was hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm at that time, who knew Thomas G. Ayers, the father of Dohrn's husband. "We often hire friends," Trienens told a reporter for the Chicago Tribune.....In 1991, she was hired by Northwestern University School of Law, as an adjunct professor of law with the title "Clinical Associate Professor of Law"."

So we are to believe that Dorm just sat at home watching Oprah and eating bon-bons?

No, she continued her affiliation while she tried to become a lawyer and undoubtedly knew Barrack and Michelle.

Dorm is Bill Ayers wife.

2) Barak knew Thomas Ayers (Bill Ayers father) while both served on the "Leadership Council of the Chicago Education Fund from 1988.

The Obama Nation - Jerome R. Corsi - Google Books

3) Frank Synauth's book the Making of a President says this on page 117 Chapter ten that Barak got help on Dreams of my Father from Bill Ayers. Apparently this was OK to admit prior to the election.

The Making of a President - Frank Senauth - Google Books


And what evidence do we have to the contrary? A couple of liars and one of them also a terrorist who still hates the US?

Well, did they meet or are you merely speculating that they met?

Jerome Corsi???? You're kidding, right? The proven liar?

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/corsis-dull-hatchet/

Despite its place near the top of The New York Times’ nonfiction bestseller list, where it has been riding high for the past six weeks, Jerome Corsi’s "The Obama Nation" is not a reliable source of facts about Obama. Corsi cites opinion columns and unsourced, anonymous blogs as if they were evidence of factual claims. Where he does cite legitimate news sources, he frequently distorts the facts. In some cases, Corsi simply ignores readily accessible information when it conflicts with his arguments. Among the errors we found:

Corsi claims that Obama "could claim to be a citizen of Kenya as well as of the United States." But the Kenyan Constitution specifically prohibits dual citizenship.

Corsi falsely states that Obama, who has admitted to drug use as a teenager, "has yet to answer" questions about whether he stopped using drugs. In fact, Obama has answered that question twice, including once in the autobiography that Corsi reviews in his book.

Corsi relies on claims from one of Obama’s "closest" childhood friends to "prove" that Obama once was a practicing Muslim, without revealing that the witness later said he couldn’t be certain about his claims and confessed to knowing Obama for only a few months.

Corsi claims that despite Obama’s "rhetorically uplifting" speeches, the candidate has never detailed any specific plans. In fact, Obama’s Web site is full of detailed policy proposals.

 

[edthecynic]

Libtards like to bleet the mantra that Obama did not meet Bill Ayers until 1995, then try to make other claims based on that, but do we really know what date they first met?

A couple of facts contrary to the 1995 date:

1) Michelle Obama worked at the law firm Sidley Austin after she graduated in 1988 where she met her future husband, Barak.

Michelle Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband. "

Guess who else worked at Sidley Austin?

Bernardine Dohrn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"From 1984 to 1988, Dohrn was employed by the prestigious Chicago law firm Sidley Austin

You have not proven that they were working at the same time. Michelle didn't start until AFTER graduation And Dohrn may well have been gone before Michelle ever started. Not only that, it is a very big law firm and they could easily have been in different departments even if there was a few days of overlap. The burden of proof is on YOU to prove they had contact at Sidley!!!
So tell us, what day did Dohrn leave and what day did Michelle start, and what departments did each work!

 

[edthecynic]

Did Bill Ayers Write Obama?s Book?

Also unfortunately for Obama, Andersen’s sources – all of whom were sympathetic and appear to be at least neighbors to Obama – came to other conclusions. Andersen wrote:

These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers. “Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together,” another Hyde Park neighbor pointed out. “It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both.” In the end, Ayers’ contribution to Barack’s Dreams From My Father would be significant – so much so that the book’s language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers’ own writing. Even the caveat at the beginning of Dreams, in which Barack points out that he uses invented dialogue, embellished facts, composite characters, inaccurate chronology, and pseudonyms to create an “approximation” of reality, resembles Ayers’ defense of the inaccuracies in his memoir Fugitive Days. In the foreword to his book, Ayers states that the book is merely a collection of his personal memories and “impressions.” … Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books.

On Sean Hannity’s show, Andersen explained why:

During that campaign I think he was doing some backpedaling, I’ll be honest. And I think that Michelle probably recommended that he not emphasize their relationship with Ayers.

All you have shown is it is possible that Obama wrote "Fugitive Days." For all you know Ayres' father paid for Obama's education in exchange for Obama's ghostwriting his son's book!!!!

 

[JimBowie1958]

Did Bill Ayers Write Obama?s Book?

Also unfortunately for Obama, Andersen’s sources – all of whom were sympathetic and appear to be at least neighbors to Obama – came to other conclusions. Andersen wrote:

These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers. “Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together,” another Hyde Park neighbor pointed out. “It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both.” In the end, Ayers’ contribution to Barack’s Dreams From My Father would be significant – so much so that the book’s language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers’ own writing. Even the caveat at the beginning of Dreams, in which Barack points out that he uses invented dialogue, embellished facts, composite characters, inaccurate chronology, and pseudonyms to create an “approximation” of reality, resembles Ayers’ defense of the inaccuracies in his memoir Fugitive Days. In the foreword to his book, Ayers states that the book is merely a collection of his personal memories and “impressions.” … Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books.

On Sean Hannity’s show, Andersen explained why:

During that campaign I think he was doing some backpedaling, I’ll be honest. And I think that Michelle probably recommended that he not emphasize their relationship with Ayers.

All you have shown is it is possible that Obama wrote "Fugitive Days." For all you know Ayres' father paid for Obama's education in exchange for Obama's ghostwriting his son's book!!!!

Lol, where is the academic work from Obama to compare? We know Ayers can write, but Obama?

You libtards are so funny when you try to twist plain facts.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Libtards like to bleet the mantra that Obama did not meet Bill Ayers until 1995, then try to make other claims based on that, but do we really know what date they first met?

A couple of facts contrary to the 1995 date:

1) Michelle Obama worked at the law firm Sidley Austin after she graduated in 1988 where she met her future husband, Barak.

Michelle Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband. "

Guess who else worked at Sidley Austin?

Bernardine Dohrn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"From 1984 to 1988, Dohrn was employed by the prestigious Chicago law firm Sidley Austin

You have not proven that they were working at the same time. Michelle didn't start until AFTER graduation And Dohrn may well have been gone before Michelle ever started. Not only that, it is a very big law firm and they could easily have been in different departments even if there was a few days of overlap. The burden of proof is on YOU to prove they had contact at Sidley!!!
So tell us, what day did Dohrn leave and what day did Michelle start, and what departments did each work!

Yes, Michelle and Dorm knew each other and we know that from the other two sources.

Libtards just have a way with ignoring inconvenient Truths, donchah?

roflmao

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Yes, Michelle and Dorm knew each other and we know that from the other two sources.

Libtards just have a way with ignoring inconvenient Truths, donchah?

roflmao

What sources? Quote? Pics? Unnamed?

You have a funny take on "the truth."

 

[edthecynic]

Did Bill Ayers Write Obama?s Book?

Also unfortunately for Obama, Andersen’s sources – all of whom were sympathetic and appear to be at least neighbors to Obama – came to other conclusions. Andersen wrote:

These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers. “Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together,” another Hyde Park neighbor pointed out. “It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both.” In the end, Ayers’ contribution to Barack’s Dreams From My Father would be significant – so much so that the book’s language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers’ own writing. Even the caveat at the beginning of Dreams, in which Barack points out that he uses invented dialogue, embellished facts, composite characters, inaccurate chronology, and pseudonyms to create an “approximation” of reality, resembles Ayers’ defense of the inaccuracies in his memoir Fugitive Days. In the foreword to his book, Ayers states that the book is merely a collection of his personal memories and “impressions.” … Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books.

On Sean Hannity’s show, Andersen explained why:

During that campaign I think he was doing some backpedaling, I’ll be honest. And I think that Michelle probably recommended that he not emphasize their relationship with Ayers.

All you have shown is it is possible that Obama wrote "Fugitive Days." For all you know Ayres' father paid for Obama's education in exchange for Obama's ghostwriting his son's book!!!!

Lol, where is the academic work from Obama to compare? We know Ayers can write, but Obama?

You libtards are so funny when you try to twist plain facts.

You KNOW no such thing, you only ASSUME such from the books ghostwritten by Obama for Ayres. Why would Ayres' father pay for the education of a total stranger if Obama hadn't ghostwritten his son's book????

 

[JimBowie1958]

Libtards like to bleet the mantra that Obama did not meet Bill Ayers until 1995, then try to make other claims based on that, but do we really know what date they first met?

A couple of facts contrary to the 1995 date:

1) Michelle Obama worked at the law firm Sidley Austin after she graduated in 1988 where she met her future husband, Barak.

Michelle Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband. "

Guess who else worked at Sidley Austin?

Bernardine Dohrn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"From 1984 to 1988, Dohrn was employed by the prestigious Chicago law firm Sidley Austin [29] where she was hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm at that time, who knew Thomas G. Ayers, the father of Dohrn's husband. "We often hire friends," Trienens told a reporter for the Chicago Tribune.....In 1991, she was hired by Northwestern University School of Law, as an adjunct professor of law with the title "Clinical Associate Professor of Law"."

So we are to believe that Dorm just sat at home watching Oprah and eating bon-bons?

No, she continued her affiliation while she tried to become a lawyer and undoubtedly knew Barrack and Michelle.

Dorm is Bill Ayers wife.

2) Barak knew Thomas Ayers (Bill Ayers father) while both served on the "Leadership Council of the Chicago Education Fund from 1988.

The Obama Nation - Jerome R. Corsi - Google Books

3) Frank Synauth's book the Making of a President says this on page 117 Chapter ten that Barak got help on Dreams of my Father from Bill Ayers. Apparently this was OK to admit prior to the election.

The Making of a President - Frank Senauth - Google Books


And what evidence do we have to the contrary? A couple of liars and one of them also a terrorist who still hates the US?

Well, did they meet or are you merely speculating that they met?

Lol, yes they all knew each other from 1988 on, dumbass.

Jerome Corsi???? You're kidding, right? The proven liar?

Corsi?s Dull Hatchet

Despite its place near the top of The New York Times’ nonfiction bestseller list, where it has been riding high for the past six weeks, Jerome Corsi’s "The Obama Nation" is not a reliable source of facts about Obama. Corsi cites opinion columns and unsourced, anonymous blogs as if they were evidence of factual claims. Where he does cite legitimate news sources, he frequently distorts the facts. In some cases, Corsi simply ignores readily accessible information when it conflicts with his arguments. Among the errors we found:

Corsi claims that Obama "could claim to be a citizen of Kenya as well as of the United States." But the Kenyan Constitution specifically prohibits dual citizenship.

Corsi falsely states that Obama, who has admitted to drug use as a teenager, "has yet to answer" questions about whether he stopped using drugs. In fact, Obama has answered that question twice, including once in the autobiography that Corsi reviews in his book.

Corsi relies on claims from one of Obama’s "closest" childhood friends to "prove" that Obama once was a practicing Muslim, without revealing that the witness later said he couldn’t be certain about his claims and confessed to knowing Obama for only a few months.

Corsi claims that despite Obama’s "rhetorically uplifting" speeches, the candidate has never detailed any specific plans. In fact, Obama’s Web site is full of detailed policy proposals.

What you mean the proven libtard lying source of bullshit, Factcheck? You have to be kidding.

Lol, I know that is ad hominem, but hey, I guess I will fight fire with fire.

Obama slams Factcheck.org for trafficking in facts | Conservative ByteConservative Byte

President Barack Obama’s campaign staffers are pushing back against the FactCheck.org site after it concluded June 29 that Gov. Mitt Romney had not exported any U.S. jobs before he left Bain Capital in 1999 to run the Winter Olympics.

“The statement that Gov. Romney ‘left’ Bain in February 1999 — a statement central to your fact-check —- is not accurate,” said Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, in a letter released late Sunday night....

Ho, noes! How can the libtard be getting his facts from a site the top libtards says lies?

roflmao

 

[JimBowie1958]

Yes, Michelle and Dorm knew each other and we know that from the other two sources.

Libtards just have a way with ignoring inconvenient Truths, donchah?

roflmao

What sources? Quote? Pics? Unnamed?

You have a funny take on "the truth."

And you are in denial, as it is obvious they all knew each other and it has been published and a fact of the public domain for years....till it became a political football and now it is best for Obama to deny knowing Bill before 2995, lol.

And I know any lurker reading this is far more likely to see the significance of what I am pointing out even if an ideological fraud like you refuses to admit it.

 

[JimBowie1958]

All you have shown is it is possible that Obama wrote "Fugitive Days." For all you know Ayres' father paid for Obama's education in exchange for Obama's ghostwriting his son's book!!!!

Lol, where is the academic work from Obama to compare? We know Ayers can write, but Obama?

You libtards are so funny when you try to twist plain facts.

You KNOW no such thing, you only ASSUME such from the books ghostwritten by Obama for Ayres. Why would Ayres' father pay for the education of a total stranger if Obama hadn't ghostwritten his son's book????

Lol, so the neophyte wrote the book for the well published author, Mr Ayers?

Yeah, I guess that just makes perfect sense to an idiot like you.

 

[edthecynic]

Lol, where is the academic work from Obama to compare? We know Ayers can write, but Obama?

You libtards are so funny when you try to twist plain facts.

You KNOW no such thing, you only ASSUME such from the books ghostwritten by Obama for Ayers. Why would Ayers' father pay for the education of a total stranger if Obama hadn't ghostwritten his son's book????

Lol, so the neophyte wrote the book for the well published author, Mr Ayers?

Yeah, I guess that just makes perfect sense to an idiot like you.

Ayres was the neophyte. Dreams was published in 1995 and Fugitive Days was published in 2001, so if Obama didn't ghostwrite Fugitive Days then Ayers copied Obama's style.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You KNOW no such thing, you only ASSUME such from the books ghostwritten by Obama for Ayers. Why would Ayers' father pay for the education of a total stranger if Obama hadn't ghostwritten his son's book????

Lol, so the neophyte wrote the book for the well published author, Mr Ayers?

Yeah, I guess that just makes perfect sense to an idiot like you.

Ayres was the neophyte. Dreams was published in 1995 and Fugitive Days was published in 2001, so if Obama didn't ghostwrite Fugitive Days then Ayers copied Obama's style.

Lol, that is bullshyte and you know it.

Do you libtards ever NOT lie?

 

[edthecynic]

Lol, so the neophyte wrote the book for the well published author, Mr Ayers?

Yeah, I guess that just makes perfect sense to an idiot like you.

Ayres was the neophyte. Dreams was published in 1995 and Fugitive Days was published in 2001, so if Obama didn't ghostwrite Fugitive Days then Ayers copied Obama's style.

Lol, that is bullshyte and you know it.

Do you libtards ever NOT lie?

It is much more logical that the book that came after copied the book that came before rather than the book that came before copied the book that came after. Ayers had 6 years to copy Obama's successful writing style!!!

 

[JimBowie1958]

Ayres was the neophyte. Dreams was published in 1995 and Fugitive Days was published in 2001, so if Obama didn't ghostwrite Fugitive Days then Ayers copied Obama's style.

Lol, that is bullshyte and you know it.

Do you libtards ever NOT lie?

It is much more logical that the book that came after copied the book that came before rather than the book that came before copied the book that came after. Ayers had 6 years to copy Obama's successful writing style!!!

Lol, you are an idiot.

 

[edthecynic]

Lol, that is bullshyte and you know it.

Do you libtards ever NOT lie?

It is much more logical that the book that came after copied the book that came before rather than the book that came before copied the book that came after. Ayers had 6 years to copy Obama's successful writing style!!!

Lol, you are an idiot.

And all you have are insults.

None of Ayers' earlier books were like Fugitive Days, so where did his new style come from? Obviously from 6 years of studying Obama's style!

 

[JimBowie1958]

It is much more logical that the book that came after copied the book that came before rather than the book that came before copied the book that came after. Ayers had 6 years to copy Obama's successful writing style!!!

Lol, you are an idiot.

And all you have are insults.

I have the time line that shows Obama knew Ayers since 1988 and the fact that no one other than you has suggested that Obama ghost wrote Ayers books, a previously successful author way before all this.

Thus you are not only a lying fraud, but an idiot to keep insisting your bullshit is real.

Why is it the libtards have so many liars among them, like Ward Churchill, Barak Obama, David Axelrod and Hitlary Clinton?